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Post by snoggle on Dec 22, 2015 14:34:25 GMT
Well except those on the GOBLIN. Looks like the 5 car project has pretty much finished on time.
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Post by T.R. on Dec 22, 2015 15:54:59 GMT
Well except those on the GOBLIN. And the Lea Valley Lines, and the Romminster That's great news - extra two cars since 2009 I wonder how long before the trains fill up again (if they haven't already)
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Post by snoggle on Dec 22, 2015 19:50:37 GMT
Well except those on the GOBLIN. And the Lea Valley Lines, and the Romminster That's great news - extra two cars since 2009 I wonder how long before the trains fill up again (if they haven't already) Well some of the 5 car trains are immensely full on the ELL and NLL routes. The extra capacity was swallowed up within weeks and that's no surprise at all. Going beyond 5 cars, though, is not very easy because of physical infrastructure and rolling stock issues. Of course West Anglia and Romford - Upminster were never part of the Overground 5 car project. I understand TfL are working through their strategy for beyond 5 cars. It may be the case that bidders for the new concession may also be contributing ideas. A new "Rail Vision" for London and South East is due to be published in Jan 2016 which may bring news about lots of extra services on suburban lines, rail devolution and other ideas. Boris and Mike Brown have dropped a few hints in the last fortnight about interesting developments being due soon.
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Post by routew15 on Jan 13, 2016 9:07:02 GMT
Less than a month since the last 5 car train was introduced and the the London Overground trains I see (ELL and SLL) are carrying full to the brim trains. Every carriage of each train I have observed this morning heading Northbound was full. Trains every 12 mins will definitely be needed on the line by the next timetable.
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Post by snoggle on Jan 13, 2016 11:07:48 GMT
Less than a month since the last 5 car train was introduced and the the London Overground trains I see (ELL and SLL) are carrying full to the brim trains. Every carriage of each train I have observed this morning heading Northbound was full. Trains every 12 mins will definitely be needed on the line by the next timetable. The curse of popular services and the time lag involved in making substantive improvements. I'm surprised that it only took a month given the scale of suppressed demand for some Overground services. We must wait for the new concession to see if TfL have developed a next step in improving these core services beyond just adding a bit of extra frequency. Do they go to 6, 7 or 8 car trains and what does that mean for some stations given their restricted length?
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Post by routew15 on Jan 14, 2016 18:13:01 GMT
Less than a month since the last 5 car train was introduced and the the London Overground trains I see (ELL and SLL) are carrying full to the brim trains. Every carriage of each train I have observed this morning heading Northbound was full. Trains every 12 mins will definitely be needed on the line by the next timetable. The curse of popular services and the time lag involved in making substantive improvements. I'm surprised that it only took a month given the scale of suppressed demand for some Overground services. We must wait for the new concession to see if TfL have developed a next step in improving these core services beyond just adding a bit of extra frequency. Do they go to 6, 7 or 8 car trains and what does that mean for some stations given their restricted length. Really and truly I'd count it as 2 weeks because the period between Christmas and New Year was ridiculously quite (I actually had a seat on both Jubilee line and Overground!). Outside of the platform restrictions they also need to consider the cost for: (once again) moving the signals and (more importantly) sourcing stabling facilities. I think we can have 6 car before platform alterations will be needed as I imagine dwell time at the short platform stations would be excessive.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2016 8:17:07 GMT
Not sure if this is the correct place to post, but TFL have confirmed they will be rebounding and taking control of the whole of London's suburban rail service as London Overground.
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Post by DT 11 on Jan 21, 2016 9:14:11 GMT
Not sure if this is the correct place to post, but TFL have confirmed they will be rebounding and taking control of the whole of London's suburban rail service as London Overground. Indeed here is the link www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/tfl-to-take-command-of-londons-entire-suburban-rail-network-a3161586.htmlThis will turn out good in the long run I imagine all stations will get refurbished and much easier access for the disabled. Just hope they do not turn the entire network into slow stopping services and at least retain some express train services that skip out stops. There are some stations that are completely dry e.g. St Margret's Glad to hear Southeastern is first as tbh the majority of their trains smell like Public toilets and not very welcoming to board them!
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Post by Green Kitten on Jan 21, 2016 10:12:12 GMT
Not sure if this is the correct place to post, but TFL have confirmed they will be rebounding and taking control of the whole of London's suburban rail service as London Overground. I can't wait for diamond geezer's post about the tube map in 2021 All that said, great news. Surprising to hear the Govia suburban lines are becoming orange, even after their future plans, though. Using Oyster from PB station would give me an hour extra of sleep every day , however by 2021 I'd like to be long gone from that place anyway
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Post by snowman on Jan 21, 2016 10:32:27 GMT
Not sure if this is the correct place to post, but TFL have confirmed they will be rebounding and taking control of the whole of London's suburban rail service as London Overground. Indeed here is the link www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/tfl-to-take-command-of-londons-entire-suburban-rail-network-a3161586.htmlThis will turn out good in the long run I imagine all stations will get refurbished and much easier access for the disabled. Just hope they do not turn the entire network into slow stopping services and at least retain some express train services that skip out stops. There are some stations that are completely dry e.g. St Margret's Glad to hear Southeastern is first as tbh the majority of their trains smell like Public toilets and not very welcoming to board them! Just found another link and it says South Eastern in 2018, SW Trains subject to consultation and break clause as franchise is currently being negociated. Southern Thameslink and Great Northern in 2021 Its unclear when funds to upgrade stations would come from, or if companies will play with the timetables prior to split to provide paths for their longer distance services meaning the inner suburban services have no track capacity.
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Post by snoggle on Jan 21, 2016 12:19:54 GMT
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Post by TA1 on Jan 11, 2018 6:13:16 GMT
Sorry to bump this thread but at the start of service today, the majority of the overground has been suspended and the vast majority of the class 378 fleet grounded after a defect was found overnight which has subsequently required for many units to undergo further safety checks. At present the fault is being rectified but not specified.
There is No East London Line services from Highbury/Dalton - Crystal Palace/ West Croydon / New across & Clapham Junctiom There is no West London Line servics from Willesden - Clapham And a very reduced North London Line service.
Expect disruption this morning
EDIT: - a brake calliper was found on track inspection, inspections being carried out to find out from which unit it's come from and if anymore are missing.
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Post by snowman on Mar 15, 2018 11:03:11 GMT
Bombardier has won a contract extending its maintenance of the 378s to 2030 RailPro link
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