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Post by RandomBusesGirl on Mar 19, 2017 21:57:55 GMT
Do I see it right and the roundels actually said “TFLRail” on them? Or do I need glasses from now? 🤓
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Post by snoggle on Mar 19, 2017 23:27:56 GMT
Do I see it right and the roundels actually said “TFLRail” on them? Or do I need glasses from now? 🤓 They have TfL Rail on them because that name remains in use until Dec 2018. At that point, when the tunnel opens, the Elizabeth Line ( ) name comes into use. From May 2018 there will be two TfL Rail services - Paddington to Heathrow stopping service and Liverpool St to Shenfield. In Dec 2019 there will be three Elizabeth Line services - Liv St surface - Shenfield, Paddington Low Level - Abbey Wood via Bond St and Liv St, Paddington (surface) - Heathrow. Confused? - you will be. Even when everything is all connected together there will be three effective peak time services Shenfield - Liv St (Surface) (peaks only) Shenfield - Reading Abbey Wood - Heathrow So people on the Shenfield route will be required to change trains to reach Heathrow.
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Post by T.R. on Mar 20, 2017 5:28:57 GMT
Shenfield - Liv St (Surface) (peaks only) Shenfield - Reading Abbey Wood - Heathrow So people on the Shenfield route will be required to change trains to reach Heathrow. I thought the QE Tube peaks were only LST - Gidea Park? Or have they been extended to Shenfield too?
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Post by snoggle on Mar 20, 2017 11:07:21 GMT
Shenfield - Liv St (Surface) (peaks only) Shenfield - Reading Abbey Wood - Heathrow So people on the Shenfield route will be required to change trains to reach Heathrow. I thought the QE Tube peaks were only LST - Gidea Park? Or have they been extended to Shenfield too? You may well be right - I didn't double check that. Having now looked at a recent consultation about Crossrail's operation the peak extra to Liv St (surface) are shown as starting at Harold Wood. And then another TfL paper a few months later shows them as Gidea Park to Liv St (surface) so you're correct.
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Post by snowman on Mar 22, 2017 11:18:33 GMT
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Post by snoggle on Mar 22, 2017 13:49:24 GMT
Eh? there isn't a single comment in this thread that implies or states a full conversion to class 345 trains in May this year. The concession agreement doesn't require a full run out of class 345s for several years as class 315s are expected to be retained for some peak services and to facilitate lengthening of 7 car units (used solely out of Liv St) to 9 cars as we reach the point of needing to run through the tunnel from May 2019.
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Post by T.R. on May 9, 2017 4:52:57 GMT
There doesn't seem to be a general Crossrail thread, so:
According to a recent post on RailUK forums, the Class 345's maiden trip will be a special 0945 Liverpool Street - Shenfield, where at the latter there'll be a media 'event'. Then trains are expected to start entering service from the following day.
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Post by snowman on May 9, 2017 6:08:22 GMT
There doesn't seem to be a general Crossrail thread, so: According to a recent post on RailUK forums, the Class 345's maiden trip will be a special 0945 Liverpool Street - Shenfield, where at the latter there'll be a media 'event'. Then trains are expected to start entering service from the following day. Crossrail have added some photos of the completed Shenfield works, says trains now restored Brentwood-Shenfield earlier than planned. New 6th platform also open. www.crossrail.co.uk/news/articles/shenfield-ready-for-new-trains-as-tfl-rail-services-returnGuess it also marks the start of the demise of the 315s, had many journeys on those in late 1980s, always remember the lime green seats
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Post by routew15 on May 29, 2017 0:11:14 GMT
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Post by snoggle on May 29, 2017 16:28:32 GMT
Thanks for those. Interesting to see that the underground bit is proceeding reasonably well but the new ticket hall structure seems to be behind schedule. Reassuring though to see the new steps down to the old ticket hall now in place.
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Post by routew15 on May 30, 2017 11:59:48 GMT
Thanks for those. Interesting to see that the underground bit is proceeding reasonably well but the new ticket hall structure seems to be behind schedule. Reassuring though to see the new steps down to the old ticket hall now in place. No problem. I think the works at Whitechapel are just about on time baring in mind they have over a year to go (I believe October 2018 is the aim for opening) for the LU part and most of the main structures are in place over the sub-surface tracks. .
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Post by snoggle on May 30, 2017 12:50:27 GMT
Thanks for those. Interesting to see that the underground bit is proceeding reasonably well but the new ticket hall structure seems to be behind schedule. Reassuring though to see the new steps down to the old ticket hall now in place. No problem. I think the works at Whitechapel are just about on time baring in mind they have over a year to go (I believe October 2018 is the aim for opening) for the LU part and most of the main structures are in place over the sub-surface tracks. I hope you right. Crossrail have been very adept at keeping any "wrinkles" on the project away from the public gaze. Some will be those things that always happen on big builds and are managed away just like similar issues on other projects are. Professional engineers and others are paid to cope with all of that. I have long been concerned that the last 18-24 months could be where Crossrail comes a cropper. I don't want it to but this is where the fixed immovable deadlines start to hit home and where contractors, subbies and the unions go into trouble making mode. It's all classic behaviour and I'd expect Crossrail to have predicted it and tried to avoid / mitigate the risks but there are several headlines "out there" about severe problems at Paddington with fitting out and electrical work. The fact that Whitechapel hasn't got a roof on it yet makes it a tad difficult to start fitting out the areas the public will use. It will not take very much to delay one or two sites which then imperils the entire opening. And to think if we had kept to the original programme (without the 1-2 years extra delay) we'd already be riding on trains under London. I've just watched last night's £15bn Railway programme. All very lovely but noteworthy how little was shown of any ticket hall level fitting out work at the major sites. Bits and bobs of finishes and some escalators in place. The only "finished" place is, of course, Canary Wharf and that was built at a stonking pace but still won't have all the station systems installed. I really hope my slight pessimism is completely misplaced but getting from construction through fit out to testing / operational training to passenger opening is the most difficult bit of a scheme like this. I saw it with the JLE project and that had major issues to cope with.
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Post by snowman on Jul 6, 2017 7:43:17 GMT
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Post by T.R. on Jul 6, 2017 9:10:53 GMT
Is that Broadgate in the upper part of the img?
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Post by snoggle on Jul 6, 2017 10:25:58 GMT
Is that Broadgate in the upper part of the img? It certainly is. That's Eldon St to the NW of the photo. I believe part of Broadgate is being pulled down and fully redeveloped. Some part of it has, I think, been listed to prevent wholesale demolition. It may not be everyone's favourite style of architecture but it is emblematic of its era. I guess that's one way to get your escalator steelwork in place quickly!! They don't have the steps in place though which makes perfect sense given they've got to secured, wired in, have fire systems fitted etc.
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