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Post by southlondonbus on Mar 23, 2016 20:41:45 GMT
139 and 189 at Oxford circus. The 189 can be turning out to start whilst a 139 goes past.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2016 7:08:24 GMT
Routes 241 and 325 between Custom House and Plaistow Broadway via Freemasons Road, New Barn Street and Balaam Street, always seem to be coming together, with route 325 coming 2 mins before route 241, meaning it's hard to make your journey quicker if you miss a 241.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2016 7:32:13 GMT
Routes 241 and 325 between Custom House and Plaistow Broadway via Freemasons Road, New Barn Street and Balaam Street, always seem to be coming together, with route 325 coming 2 mins before route 241, meaning it's hard to make your journey quicker if you miss a 241. Even worse when the 541 runs as all three leave Prince Regret together.
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Post by mondraker275 on Mar 24, 2016 9:44:55 GMT
58 and 158 off peaks can be annoying, as they seem to always find themselves together.
I know 238/104 used to have a problem as they would exit Stratford regularly together, I dont know if that still happens.
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Post by rmz19 on Mar 24, 2016 10:25:15 GMT
The 36 and 436 are usually seen bunching together, even during late evenings. The former's slightly higher frequency sometimes accounts for this (their frequencies should be swapped imo) and is usually the one behind on n/b journeys. Also, the 31 and 328 can sometimes be seen bunching together, the 28 tends to be seperate but occassionally joins the convoy in the common section.
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Post by enviroPB on Mar 24, 2016 12:23:43 GMT
58 and 158 off peaks can be annoying, as they seem to always find themselves together. I know 238/104 used to have a problem as they would exit Stratford regularly together, I dont know if that still happens. The 104/238 departure was like that for a while but when their contract got renewed (2012) it has stopped happening as much. I'm blessed when I get on either a 58 or 158 as I wouldn't normally alight along Church Road/Markhouse Road meaning that I am forced to get on my chosen bus. However I can't recall to you an enjoyable journey along that line of route as it is blatantly obvious from the loadings that even headways are not provided between Leyton High Road and Markhouse Corner.
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Post by enviroPB on Mar 24, 2016 12:30:07 GMT
Routes 241 and 325 between Custom House and Plaistow Broadway via Freemasons Road, New Barn Street and Balaam Street, always seem to be coming together, with route 325 coming 2 mins before route 241, meaning it's hard to make your journey quicker if you miss a 241. Even worse when the 541 runs as all three leave Prince Regret together. The residents of Custom House have to bear that pain again as route 541 will be operational over the Easter weekend. Oh well, at least it's the holidays so residents won't swap oyster cards for pitchforks. However I don't think they bother too much; know people along the route and they're ecstatic when their free shuttle bus comes back into service.
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Post by enviroPB on Mar 24, 2016 12:41:31 GMT
The 36 and 436 are usually seen bunching together, even during late evenings. The former's slightly higher frequency sometimes accounts for this (their frequencies should be swapped imo) and is usually the one behind on n/b journeys. Also, the 31 and 328 can sometimes be seen bunching together, the 28 tends to be seperate but occassionally joins the convoy in the common section. TfL plans to have a frequency and route restructuring which should mean that this problem with the 436/36 isn't going to be around long. But I do admit that's optimistic wishing on my part. At least N28 and N31 have even headways! Not satisfactory for you? At least I tried loool
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Post by M1104 on Mar 24, 2016 13:00:01 GMT
I imagine the 211 and 295 are still pulling together out of Hammersmith Bus Station towards Fulham. In scheduled theory it use to be that the Waterloo-bound 211 was to serve the bus station a few minutes before the Clapham Junction-bound 295 was due.
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Post by 6HP502C on Mar 24, 2016 15:29:48 GMT
I imagine the 211 and 295 are still pulling together out of Hammersmith Bus Station towards Fulham. In scheduled theory it use to be that the Waterloo-bound 211 was to serve the bus stand a few minutes before the Clapham Junction-bound 295 was due. Admittedly I used to do that if there was no controller around. Same with the 35 out of Clapham Junction, used to hang about until the 37 went (facilitated by Countdown).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2016 20:36:55 GMT
Routes 241 and 325 between Custom House and Plaistow Broadway via Freemasons Road, New Barn Street and Balaam Street, always seem to be coming together, with route 325 coming 2 mins before route 241, meaning it's hard to make your journey quicker if you miss a 241. Even worse when the 541 runs as all three leave Prince Regret together. When that was running, it always seemed to come around a minute before the 325. Sometimes all 3 came up to Barking Road all at the same time, it looked funny from that angle.
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Post by ian on Mar 28, 2016 8:56:35 GMT
The one that used to drive me barmy was 113/186 between Edgware and Brent Cross. Way back when (before 1985) there were extra journeys on the 113 between Edgware and Brent X that meant there was an even 10 min headway scheduled over that section, and that worked very well in practice. The journeys to Brent X then switched to the 186, and then latterly when the routes were tendered separately they drifted apart so that by the 2000s they were actually timetabled (on various days/periods of the week) to run at almost the same time, usually giving a timetabled 1 min and 19 min headway, which of course meant in practice the two arriving together again and again - which was hugely frustrating. There was no reason why the 186 couldn't have been altered as there was no other route to pair it with in timetable terms. The problem 'resolved' itself when the 186 was diverted via Grahame Park in 2009.
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Post by eggmiester on Mar 28, 2016 20:34:18 GMT
The problem is the routes are tendered separately and therefore run separately with very little consideration for combined head ways.
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Post by beaver14uk on Mar 29, 2016 21:20:12 GMT
[ They can use tge canteen. author=" sid" source="/post/322540/thread" timestamp="1458750650"] I'm surprised TfL haven't opened a park for all the drivers who swap over at Elephant & Castle to have a proper picnic with amount of meal reliefs there! You're bending the rules slightly with the 436/36 and 321/21 as they're GAL owned; but I do accept your point as more efforts could be made for them to run in conjunction with each other. The 53 and 453 combo I find the most annoying in SE London. It's normally late at night when I wait for those 2 routes; in the rain or cold wind. I'm sometimes a snob not opting to get on a bus if it's full; I do that for both routes thinking "surely an empty bus is round the corner". In this order: I let both buses go, check times on my bus app for the next bus and cry on the inside as I wait double the time as both buses are scheduled to come together. I then maybe cry some more lool. I'm not sure that Elephant & Castle is the best place for a picnic Don't WL drivers have use of the Bakerloo Line depot facilities? [/quote]
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Post by TB141 on Apr 5, 2016 8:04:38 GMT
208/320 is a good example between Bromley Common & Catford. Esp on Sundays. I often see them running together. The 208 desperately needs to be increased to a 10 minute headway in my opinion. How routes like the 269 get a bus every 10 minutes while the 208 remains at 12 is beyond me. Even with the 320 'helping out' since it's extension to Catford, the 208 can get absolutely rammed before it even reaches Catford, and remains so all the way to Bromley.
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