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Post by busman on Jul 28, 2017 16:45:09 GMT
No surprise given the MoL's recent statement on increasing bus connections into hospitals.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jul 30, 2017 16:51:37 GMT
oh look who's happy
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Post by ibus246 on Jul 30, 2017 17:12:29 GMT
oh look who's happy Am I right in thinking the bus will terminate directly outside Queen's?
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jul 30, 2017 17:31:14 GMT
oh look who's happy Am I right in thinking the bus will terminate directly outside Queen's? No, the route will continue to Romford Market as it does now however instead of turning from Rom Valley Way into South Street it will follow the 175 into Queen's Hospital and out of Queen's Hospital to Romford Station from where it's original line of route to Romford Market.
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Post by southlondonbus on Jul 30, 2017 19:03:38 GMT
Will this add a lot to the journey time?
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jul 30, 2017 20:16:11 GMT
Will this add a lot to the journey time? Shouldn't be too much, maybe an extra 5-7 minutes at most.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2017 20:52:43 GMT
oh look who's happy Am I right in thinking the bus will terminate directly outside Queen's? Will not terminate at the hospital but go via it. Will still run Canning Town - Romford Market.
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Post by snoggle on Jul 30, 2017 22:55:40 GMT
oh look who's happy Bet she's never used the 5 or a bus to Queen's Hospital in her life. Still I am sure she's delighted that she's snatched several hundred thousands of pounds from someone else's improvements just so a monumentally frequent service can go past a hospital front door. It's not as if Queen's Hospital is devoid of buses from all over East London. Heck I can there with a 1 change of bus at the same stop at Gants Hill or up to Coventry Rd in Ilford. How long before they demand the N15 also has to go past the hospital doors and, oh, the 174 can just divert there too. And, while we're talking about it, can the 103 also go? After all everyone in B&D borough has to have a direct bus to the hospital. [ rolls eyes ]
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Post by ThinLizzy on Jul 30, 2017 23:26:21 GMT
oh look who's happy Bet she's never used the 5 or a bus to Queen's Hospital in her life. Still I am sure she's delighted that she's snatched several hundred thousands of pounds from someone else's improvements just so a monumentally frequent service can go past a hospital front door. It's not as if Queen's Hospital is devoid of buses from all over East London. Heck I can there with a 1 change of bus at the same stop at Gants Hill or up to Coventry Rd in Ilford. How long before they demand the N15 also has to go past the hospital doors and, oh, the 174 can just divert there too. And, while we're talking about it, can the 103 also go? After all everyone in B&D borough has to have a direct bus to the hospital. [ rolls eyes ] As I've mentioned on here before, as a regular visitor to Queens Hospital and resident of Barking (even though I come under Redbridge) it's not THAT difficult to get to Queens Hospital from Barking. I'm more upset about the longer walk from The Crown at Roneo Corner to a 5 bus stop when the change comes in
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Post by southlondonbus on Jul 31, 2017 8:16:21 GMT
Not to mention the further reduction to daytime freq that TFL mentioned in the consultation document.
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Post by RandomBusesGirl on Jul 31, 2017 12:10:47 GMT
I personally wonder where did the money suddenly came from for that as I swear this diversion was initially put on hold due to lack of it??
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Post by snoggle on Jul 31, 2017 12:54:53 GMT
I personally wonder where did the money suddenly came from for that as I swear this diversion was initially put on hold due to lack of it?? I understand that is correct. It should have been delayed into 2018 as the W11's change has been. I assume this is in the vain hope that more money will flow into the coffers. I expect TfL tendered the route via Queens as an option so it's had the benefit of "competitive" pricing for this change. I smell a political deal off the back of Mrs Hodge doing her stuff on the Garden Bridge. A little quid pro quo for her and her constituency from a Labour Mayor. They all do it - Ken, Boris and now Sadiq. The publication of the "access to hospitals" report provides the backdrop to "do something" even if it means some other things will no longer be done.
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Post by busman on Aug 1, 2017 15:30:19 GMT
I personally wonder where did the money suddenly came from for that as I swear this diversion was initially put on hold due to lack of it?? I understand that is correct. It should have been delayed into 2018 as the W11's change has been. I assume this is in the vain hope that more money will flow into the coffers. I expect TfL tendered the route via Queens as an option so it's had the benefit of "competitive" pricing for this change. I smell a political deal off the back of Mrs Hodge doing her stuff on the Garden Bridge. A little quid pro quo for her and her constituency from a Labour Mayor. They all do it - Ken, Boris and now Sadiq. The publication of the "access to hospitals" report provides the backdrop to "do something" even if it means some other things will no longer be done. I hate to be cynical, but I share your sentiments. This statement ( www.london.gov.uk/press-releases/mayoral/bold-vision-to-boost-bus-services-to-hospitals) is a load of hot air. I see Queen Elizabeth in Woolwich was mentioned and Northwick Park. The former has no new links in the latest round of area changes and the latter is losing direct buses into Harrow (223 changes). I agree with the policy in the sense that hospital department closures has meant people having to travel further for treatment. Not sure what the 5 diversion achieves as I'm not local to that area, but note upcoming the frequency reduction on that route. Is it worth diverting if it means a reduced frequency?
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Post by vjaska on Aug 1, 2017 17:25:44 GMT
I understand that is correct. It should have been delayed into 2018 as the W11's change has been. I assume this is in the vain hope that more money will flow into the coffers. I expect TfL tendered the route via Queens as an option so it's had the benefit of "competitive" pricing for this change. I smell a political deal off the back of Mrs Hodge doing her stuff on the Garden Bridge. A little quid pro quo for her and her constituency from a Labour Mayor. They all do it - Ken, Boris and now Sadiq. The publication of the "access to hospitals" report provides the backdrop to "do something" even if it means some other things will no longer be done. I hate to be cynical, but I share your sentiments. This statement ( www.london.gov.uk/press-releases/mayoral/bold-vision-to-boost-bus-services-to-hospitals) is a load of hot air. I see Queen Elizabeth in Woolwich was mentioned and Northwick Park. The former has no new links in the latest round of area changes and the latter is losing direct buses into Harrow (223 changes). I agree with the policy in the sense that hospital department closures has meant people having to travel further for treatment. Not sure what the 5 diversion achieves as I'm not local to that area, but note upcoming the frequency reduction on that route. Is it worth diverting if it means a reduced frequency? The only thing I would say is Queen Elizabeth Hospital, to me anyway, actually has too many buses serving it so personally, it would be mind boggling to add even more routes. Agree on everything else though.
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Post by sid on Aug 11, 2017 18:16:12 GMT
Surely the obvious compromise would have been to run alternative buses via the hospital, buses that serve the hospital on the way into Romford don't on the way out and vice versa to balance up running times.
This sort of arrangement is commonplace everywhere else in the UK but not in London!
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