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Post by DT 11 on Aug 9, 2016 7:44:19 GMT
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Post by vjaska on Aug 9, 2016 9:04:43 GMT
So they join Islington, Camden, Hackney, Tower Hamlets, Southwark, Lambeth & any others I've missed. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Aug 9, 2016 9:18:20 GMT
What a bunch of numpties. Is this a labour party policy. It seems that most of the labour councils have this backwards thinking. |
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Post by snoggle on Aug 9, 2016 11:04:26 GMT
TfL publish a digital speed limit map showing the different speed limits on all London roads. It is very easy to spot the borough boundaries in some bits of London. You can zoom in right to local street level. content.tfl.gov.uk/digital-speed-limit-map.pdf |
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Post by T.R. on Aug 9, 2016 11:32:20 GMT
Cue a raft of bus timetable changes...
(I'll save you all the displeasure of a rant)
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Post by Nathan on Aug 9, 2016 12:21:32 GMT
Great...as if the 172 wasn't slow enough already -_-
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Post by enviroPB on Aug 9, 2016 14:05:53 GMT
So they join Islington, Camden, Hackney, Tower Hamlets, Southwark, Lambeth & any others I've missed. You might want to tell the drivers of Tower Hamlets that!!  The only reason the councils implement this speed limit is because they cannot be bothered investing in infrastructure to facilitate cyclists. I'm sure it's much easier to change a few signs than to segregate cycling or invest in Quietways. Examples like the CS3 show that you can get bikes off main roads (minimal section of CS3 actually is on roads) without vast infrastructure changes. Look at the CS2 however and the immense mayhem it's caused. Had it were done properly, then I'd argue the speed limit should remain at 30. |
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Post by sid on Aug 9, 2016 17:01:06 GMT
But this doesn't include the main thoroughfares through Lewisham and quite honestly in most residential roads twenty is plenty.
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Post by Alexis on Aug 16, 2016 8:48:09 GMT
So they join Islington, Camden, Hackney, Tower Hamlets, Southwark, Lambeth & any others I've missed. You might want to tell the drivers of Tower Hamlets that!! The only reason the councils implement this speed limit is because they cannot be bothered investing in infrastructure to facilitate cyclists. I'm sure it's much easier to change a few signs than to segregate cycling or invest in Quietways. Examples like the CS3 show that you can get bikes off main roads (minimal section of CS3 actually is on roads) without vast infrastructure changes. Look at the CS2 however and the immense mayhem it's caused. Had it were done properly, then I'd argue the speed limit should remain at 30. In Tower Hamlets the speed limit on TfL Red Routes is still 30. And for the record, I'd say the CS2 works were totally worth it. |
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Post by enviroPB on Aug 16, 2016 10:47:31 GMT
You might want to tell the drivers of Tower Hamlets that!! The only reason the councils implement this speed limit is because they cannot be bothered investing in infrastructure to facilitate cyclists. I'm sure it's much easier to change a few signs than to segregate cycling or invest in Quietways. Examples like the CS3 show that you can get bikes off main roads (minimal section of CS3 actually is on roads) without vast infrastructure changes. Look at the CS2 however and the immense mayhem it's caused. Had it were done properly, then I'd argue the speed limit should remain at 30. In Tower Hamlets the speed limit on TfL Red Routes is still 30. And for the record, I'd say the CS2 works were totally worth it. I've no reason to be on Red Routes; on the limited road sharing with motorists & cyclists, drivers make it their goal to not be beaten by a cyclist. Hence why I said the 20mph is barely adhered to. And nope nope nopedity nope! The only bit that's been made safer is between Mile End station and Bow roundabout, due to mainly pavement-turned-cycle lane, away from the busy 4 lanes of TfL operated roads. Other than that, traffic has totally decimated [my] cycling experience as if a cycle lane is partially closed (as utility companies often do), you find yourself negotiating busy lanes of traffic; which defeats the aim of the Cycle Superhighway. Take it from me; a person who used to use the 25 into the City daily until I swapped for the 5/115 because of the hideous tailbacks due to CS3, and in my opinion it wasn't worth it. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Aug 17, 2016 21:51:28 GMT
In Tower Hamlets the speed limit on TfL Red Routes is still 30. And for the record, I'd say the CS2 works were totally worth it. I've no reason to be on Red Routes; on the limited road sharing with motorists & cyclists, drivers make it their goal to not be beaten by a cyclist. Hence why I said the 20mph is barely adhered to. And nope nope nopedity nope! The only bit that's been made safer is between Mile End station and Bow roundabout, due to mainly pavement-turned-cycle lane, away from the busy 4 lanes of TfL operated roads. Other than that, traffic has totally decimated [my] cycling experience as if a cycle lane is partially closed (as utility companies often do), you find yourself negotiating busy lanes of traffic; which defeats the aim of the Cycle Superhighway. Take it from me; a person who used to use the 25 into the City daily until I swapped for the 5/115 because of the hideous tailbacks due to CS3, and in my opinion it wasn't worth it. Well who wants to be beaten by a cyclist, lol. After all the cyclist would just go past on red light phases or past a zebra crossing when people are crossing the road. Bless their lycra pants. |
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Post by enviroPB on Aug 18, 2016 2:40:51 GMT
I've no reason to be on Red Routes; on the limited road sharing with motorists & cyclists, drivers make it their goal to not be beaten by a cyclist. Hence why I said the 20mph is barely adhered to. And nope nope nopedity nope! The only bit that's been made safer is between Mile End station and Bow roundabout, due to mainly pavement-turned-cycle lane, away from the busy 4 lanes of TfL operated roads. Other than that, traffic has totally decimated [my] cycling experience as if a cycle lane is partially closed (as utility companies often do), you find yourself negotiating busy lanes of traffic; which defeats the aim of the Cycle Superhighway. Take it from me; a person who used to use the 25 into the City daily until I swapped for the 5/115 because of the hideous tailbacks due to CS3, and in my opinion it wasn't worth it. Well who wants to be beaten by a cyclist, lol. After all the cyclist would just go past on red light phases or past a zebra crossing when people are crossing the road. Bless their lycra pants. Not me!  That's why motorists get so mad; I obey traffic laws AND I'm still quicker than them!! Back to the topic and I've noticed that the CS1 between White Hart Road & the City was constructed using quieter roads and the borough of Haringey brought in a 20mph limit. I assume these speed reduction measures are purely for the benefit of those on 2 wheels. |
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Post by Paul on Sept 3, 2016 18:24:33 GMT
But this doesn't include the main thoroughfares through Lewisham and quite honestly in most residential roads twenty is plenty. It includes Baring Road and Burnt Ash Hill/Road. Twenty feels achingly slow along there, especially when you're XX minutes late! (Sorry, genuinely don't know how late I was running either way along there today. My best guess would be 'very'!) |
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Post by ServerKing on Sept 7, 2016 21:22:47 GMT
Haringey is supposed to have this limit, but all traffic ignores it... but then they have more pressing needs as a Council like basic sanitation  the way people flytip and get away with it is terrible |
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Post by romfordbuses on Sept 7, 2016 21:32:04 GMT
Haringey is supposed to have this limit, but all traffic ignores it... but then they have more pressing needs as a Council like basic sanitation the way people flytip and get away with it is terrible Indeed - It's improving the area too much! |
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The only reason the councils implement this speed limit is because they cannot be bothered investing in infrastructure to facilitate cyclists.
That's why motorists get so mad; I obey traffic laws AND I'm still quicker than them!! Back to the topic and I've noticed that the CS1 between White Hart Road & the City was constructed using quieter roads and the borough of Haringey brought in a 20mph limit. I assume these speed reduction measures are purely for the benefit of those on 2 wheels. 
the way people flytip and get away with it is terrible