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Post by george on May 12, 2019 17:21:37 GMT
I know this is an old thread but these are my favourite routes. In know particular order. 27 210 371 265 20 93 211 131 57 65 85 49 131, good taste sir  Ha thanks, it's always a tough choice weather to get a 131 or 57 from Kingston to Wimbledon both great routes. I like the WVN on the 131 as well. |
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Post by george on May 12, 2019 17:24:45 GMT
I know this is an old thread but these are my favourite routes. In know particular order. 27 210 371 265 20 93 211 131 57 65 85 49 Good to see you like the 65, its my local route and I adore it 65 is my favourite route in London hands down, the petersham bit near the dysart is the best bit with that tight turn. I hope RATP forever retain it. Sorry to any metroline fans on here 😉 |
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Post by DE20106 on May 12, 2019 17:41:16 GMT
131, good taste sir Ha thanks, it's always a tough choice weather to get a 131 or 57 from Kingston to Wimbledon both great routes. I like the WVN on the 131 as well. Nah 131’s nicer I regularly stay in Kingston so need to get to Wimbledon to get the tube. I deliberately wait for the 131 as - although slightly longer - its usually the quicker of the two due to being less busy. Don’t get me wrong both are very very busy routes, but the 57 is the busier one and stops constantly. It’s also the less frequent one despite being busier, yes total nonsense I know. Also the 57 can suffer with poor reliability due to it being very long with a lot of traffic hotspots, the 131 suffers less so with traffic. Oh yeah that I also dislike the 57’s Es, not that nice whereas the WVNs are lovely.  |
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Post by rif153 on May 12, 2019 17:43:06 GMT
Ha thanks, it's always a tough choice weather to get a 131 or 57 from Kingston to Wimbledon both great routes. I like the WVN on the 131 as well. Nah 131’s nicer I regularly stay in Kingston so need to get to Wimbledon to get the tube. I deliberately wait for the 131 as - although slightly longer - its usually the quicker of the two due to being less busy. Don’t get me wrong both are very very busy routes, but the 57 is the busier one and stops constantly. It’s although the less frequent one, yes total nonsense I know. Oh yeah that I also dislike the 57’s Es, not that nice whereas the WVNs are lovely. I have to say the 57 takes my preference but each to their own |
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Post by busaholic on May 12, 2019 17:47:10 GMT
Ha thanks, it's always a tough choice weather to get a 131 or 57 from Kingston to Wimbledon both great routes. I like the WVN on the 131 as well. Nah 131’s nicer I regularly stay in Kingston so need to get to Wimbledon to get the tube. I deliberately wait for the 131 as - although slightly longer - its usually the quicker of the two due to being less busy. Don’t get me wrong both are very very busy routes, but the 57 is the busier one and stops constantly. It’s also the less frequent one despite being busier, yes total nonsense I know. Also the 57 can suffer with poor reliability due to it being very long with a lot of traffic hotspots, the 131 suffers less so with traffic. Oh yeah that I also dislike the 57’s Es, not that nice whereas the WVNs are lovely. I used to enjoy seeing London United buses in Streatham, particularly before the puritans insisted on every livery being near identical.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 17:54:20 GMT
Nah 131’s nicer I regularly stay in Kingston so need to get to Wimbledon to get the tube. I deliberately wait for the 131 as - although slightly longer - its usually the quicker of the two due to being less busy. Don’t get me wrong both are very very busy routes, but the 57 is the busier one and stops constantly. It’s also the less frequent one despite being busier, yes total nonsense I know. Also the 57 can suffer with poor reliability due to it being very long with a lot of traffic hotspots, the 131 suffers less so with traffic. Oh yeah that I also dislike the 57’s Es, not that nice whereas the WVNs are lovely. I used to enjoy seeing London United buses in Streatham, particularly before the puritans insisted on every livery being near identical. I really hope RATP win back either the 57 or 131. My preference would be the 57. They ran it very well. And the best buses ever on it, were Westlink’s VA’s (VA 11+) which were quickly absorbed into London United main fleet despite initially having Westlink brand names on the London United livery. An early evening trip into Kingston guaranteed you a thrash up Coombe Lane, |
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Post by busaholic on May 12, 2019 17:59:32 GMT
I used to enjoy seeing London United buses in Streatham, particularly before the puritans insisted on every livery being near identical. I really hope RATP win back either the 57 or 131. My preference would be the 57. They ran it very well. And the best buses ever on it, were Westlink’s VA’s (VA 11+) which were quickly absorbed into London United main fleet despite initially having Westlink brand names on the London United livery. An early evening trip into Kingston guaranteed you a thrash up Coombe Lane, I hope you get your wish - my limited experience certainly confirmed that RATP ran it well. I can't remember an occasion when waiting for other buses around Streatham Hill when 57s didn't appear at very regular intervals. I too prefer it to the 131. |
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Post by sid on May 12, 2019 18:02:47 GMT
Nah 131’s nicer I regularly stay in Kingston so need to get to Wimbledon to get the tube. I deliberately wait for the 131 as - although slightly longer - its usually the quicker of the two due to being less busy. Don’t get me wrong both are very very busy routes, but the 57 is the busier one and stops constantly. It’s although the less frequent one, yes total nonsense I know. Oh yeah that I also dislike the 57’s Es, not that nice whereas the WVNs are lovely. I have to say the 57 takes my preference but each to their own Yes the 57 would be my preference as well but obviously opinions vary. |
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Post by DE20106 on May 12, 2019 18:17:40 GMT
I used to enjoy seeing London United buses in Streatham, particularly before the puritans insisted on every livery being near identical. I really hope RATP win back either the 57 or 131. My preference would be the 57. They ran it very well. And the best buses ever on it, were Westlink’s VA’s (VA 11+) which were quickly absorbed into London United main fleet despite initially having Westlink brand names on the London United livery. An early evening trip into Kingston guaranteed you a thrash up Coombe Lane, Yes LU did run the 57 well, however GAL run the 131 EXCEPTIONALLY well so a big thumbs up from me with GAL running it, obviously however it was really sad to see the tridents go when LU lost the route. I would actually go as far as to say the 131 is probably the most reliable route in London. If anyone could offer up any potential contenders for most reliable route I’d be intrigued, routes that are ‘reliable’ due to horrific over-regulation do not count  which is certainly something the 131 doesn’t suffer with to achieve its reliability. |
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Post by Frenzie on May 12, 2019 20:23:27 GMT
Good to see you like the 65, its my local route and I adore it 65 is my favourite route in London hands down, the petersham bit near the dysart is the best bit with that tight turn. I hope RATP forever retain it. Sorry to any metroline fans on here 😉 I use the 65 every day and l’m not the biggest fan of the route. It’s not a route that RATP run well, but I doubt any other operator could do any better. That being said, the 111 and N9 are great fun with RATP and I think they are where the company excels. |
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Post by rif153 on May 12, 2019 20:29:29 GMT
65 is my favourite route in London hands down, the petersham bit near the dysart is the best bit with that tight turn. I hope RATP forever retain it. Sorry to any metroline fans on here 😉 I use the 65 every day and l’m not the biggest fan of the route. It’s not a route that RATP run well, but I doubt any other operator could do any better. That being said, the 111 and N9 are great fun with RATP and I think they are where the company excels. I agree RATP don’t do a great job but its such a difficult route to run reliably. RATP have got a lot of experience going for them which is something that can’t be said of others. I think it would be interesting to see Abellio or Metroline run the 65 but there’s little chance that’ll happen |
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Post by george on May 12, 2019 20:37:53 GMT
65 is my favourite route in London hands down, the petersham bit near the dysart is the best bit with that tight turn. I hope RATP forever retain it. Sorry to any metroline fans on here 😉 I use the 65 every day and l’m not the biggest fan of the route. It’s not a route that RATP run well, but I doubt any other operator could do any better. That being said, the 111 and N9 are great fun with RATP and I think they are where the company excels. 65 is a difficult route to run due to traffic congestion. Should have said but my list was purely based on the route itself rather than the type of buses or how well each service is run. |
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Post by redexpress on May 12, 2019 20:46:03 GMT
I use the 65 every day and l’m not the biggest fan of the route. It’s not a route that RATP run well, but I doubt any other operator could do any better. That being said, the 111 and N9 are great fun with RATP and I think they are where the company excels. I agree RATP don’t do a great job but its such a difficult route to run reliably. RATP have got a lot of experience going for them which is something that can’t be said of others. I think it would be interesting to see Abellio or Metroline run the 65 but there’s little chance that’ll happen Metroline must be in with a shout next time the 65 is retendered. It was AH's main route for many years after all. Armchair were struggling with the route towards the end of their tenure but that was a different era. If routes were just awarded on the basis of "experience" no routes would ever change hands! |
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Post by vjaska on May 12, 2019 21:37:22 GMT
I used to enjoy seeing London United buses in Streatham, particularly before the puritans insisted on every livery being near identical. I really hope RATP win back either the 57 or 131. My preference would be the 57. They ran it very well. And the best buses ever on it, were Westlink’s VA’s (VA 11+) which were quickly absorbed into London United main fleet despite initially having Westlink brand names on the London United livery. An early evening trip into Kingston guaranteed you a thrash up Coombe Lane, Agree here, always was nice having an odd operator in Streatham in the lovely London United livery and whilst I sadly only rode one VA on the 57, the TA's were nice as well. |
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Post by rif153 on May 13, 2019 6:04:19 GMT
I use the 65 every day and l’m not the biggest fan of the route. It’s not a route that RATP run well, but I doubt any other operator could do any better. That being said, the 111 and N9 are great fun with RATP and I think they are where the company excels. 65 is a difficult route to run due to traffic congestion. Should have said but my list was purely based on the route itself rather than the type of buses or how well each service is run. Of course, my list would be based the route itself too. The 65 is a beautiful scenic route |
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which is certainly something the 131 doesn’t suffer with to achieve its reliability.
