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Post by SILENCED on Nov 21, 2019 12:29:12 GMT
Support doesn't mean money. Very easy for a Conservative candidate in a marginal seat to get the government through the DfT to say it backs the idea. No suggestion that there's any cash coming forward to pay for it What about a toll charge? Bit pointless, if there was a toll, people would use the route they are currently using.
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Post by george on Nov 21, 2019 20:54:14 GMT
From 25 November 2019:
Pedestrian access will be maintained via safe diversion routes Cyclists will need to dismount and push their bikes across the bridge Motorcycles and scooters will no longer be permitted on the bridge and will need to seek alternative routes to cross the river Because of the works, the e-pedal taxi service, currently delivered by the Barnes Community Association, will cease to operate There will be no disruption to current bus services or the Dial-a-ride service Access restrictions will continue to be reviewed on a fortnightly basis.”
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Post by evergreenadam on Nov 22, 2019 7:34:07 GMT
Is this bridge proposed to carry vehicles? The two that was proposed were meant to take vehicles so unless that's changed then I think yes. There is no TfL support for a temporary bridge carrying vehicles and Queen Caroline Street is far too narrow to take extra vehicular traffic, it will be pedestrian and cyclists only.
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Post by bn12cny on Nov 22, 2019 8:29:35 GMT
From 25 November 2019: Pedestrian access will be maintained via safe diversion routes Cyclists will need to dismount and push their bikes across the bridge Motorcycles and scooters will no longer be permitted on the bridge and will need to seek alternative routes to cross the river Because of the works, the e-pedal taxi service, currently delivered by the Barnes Community Association, will cease to operate There will be no disruption to current bus services or the Dial-a-ride service Access restrictions will continue to be reviewed on a fortnightly basis.” So motorcycles, e pedal cycles be banned surely the case now more people will use the 533, the frequency must increase and what about Deckers on this, surely Metroline can bring back a few retired Tridents back, is the 533 getting busier?
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Post by george on Nov 22, 2019 9:08:03 GMT
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Post by rm1422 on Nov 22, 2019 9:26:06 GMT
Looking at the Hammersmith Bridge campaigners website I read this...
Although LBHF and TfL have publicly discounted the temporary bridge option put forward recently, LBRUT are seeking a meeting of their own with Beckett Rankine to assess the idea. Meanwhile, LBHF are shortly expected to publish their own temporary foot and cycle bridge proposal.
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Post by george on Nov 22, 2019 9:34:09 GMT
Looking at the Hammersmith Bridge campaigners website I read this...
Although LBHF and TfL have publicly discounted the temporary bridge option put forward recently, LBRUT are seeking a meeting of their own with Beckett Rankine to assess the idea. Meanwhile, LBHF are shortly expected to publish their own temporary foot and cycle bridge proposal.
Thanks for this was looking for an article that says TfL don't support it but couldn't find one. To be honest I don't think a temporary bridge will be built anytime soon, cars or no cars.
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Post by rm1422 on Nov 22, 2019 9:48:03 GMT
There is no way LBHF will allow vehicle access to a temporary bridge via Queen Caroline Street, so I'm sure it's dead in the water except as a foot /cycle option during restoration works.
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Post by southlondonbus on Nov 22, 2019 15:49:15 GMT
Everything I hear about Hammersmith bridge is always confusing and hard to understand.. so from the end of the month it looks like the main part will be closed and only the side footpath still open (hence no cycling and the 'taxi' bike service) but a temporary bridge is still being considered for just passengers meaning that a major amount of work is being planned for the bridge. But then do tfl pay the £25m to get it bval to it's old weight limit then it closes again for more major works and a temp foot/cycle bridge opens??
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Post by george on Nov 29, 2019 12:43:36 GMT
The 72 stand at Hammersmith Bridge has changed once again, the last stop is now nearly as close to the bus station than the actual bridge. Changed a few weeks back because residents complained about buses outside their flats. So buses stoood on the opposite side of the road but that's now full of works trucks. So last stop is now just after the flyover.
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Post by rm1422 on Dec 10, 2019 10:02:04 GMT
Yesterday morning around 7.45 I got off a bus at the Castlenau terminus and walked over Hammersmith Bridge. As I crossed Lonsdale Road a 533 was just dropping off its load having arrived from Mortlake. Around 5 minutes later and the other side of the bridge as I cross under the flyover not only do I see the next 533 as it heads towards Chiswick but on the other side of the road the third bus in service just about to reach its Hammersmith terminus. I found it weird to see all the buses running a route that has more than one bus in little more than 5 minutes
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Post by southlondonbus on Dec 19, 2019 8:11:04 GMT
Saw some great footage on you tube from 1992 of RMs running freely over Hammersmith Bridge aswell as cars. Also shows Hammersmith Broadway back then. Hard to belive the bridge as basically had issues from then and still ongoing now.
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Post by thelondonthing on Jan 20, 2020 10:54:23 GMT
I've just spotted that TfL has formally closed the Hammersmith Bridge bus route changes consultation - in fact, it appears that it did so on 9 January. TfL had previously extended the consultation to 1 October 2020 just a few months ago, as noted at the time: This is just a formality really (and no surprise at all) but the Hammersmith Bridge 'open consultation' has been extended for another year, to 1 October 2020. I assume it will continue to be extended until the bridge is fully reopened. We can infer from this development that TfL isn't planning to make any further changes to the local bus network until the bridge reopens. The extension of the 419 to Roehampton, and the addition of Dial-a-Ride services to the area, were the last two changes, both introduced in September. While there is obviously still room for improvement to local services - the silly 209/378 situation springs to mind - I do think it's sensible to stop endlessly tinkering, and settle on a final interim solution that can remain in place until the bridge reopens. Regrettably, TfL's efforts to keep passengers informed of the changes hasn't improved in recent months. The Hammersmith Bridge closure page, which is supposed to be TfL's main hub for information on the closure, is still utterly dreadful. Under the 'Buses' section, this is the description of the changes that have been made: There is nothing on the page to explain how routes 33, 72, 209 and 485 have been "shortened or altered". There's no mention at all of the 378. The 419 wasn't "extended from Barnes Pond to Roehampton" - it was rerouted away from Barnes Pond, which it no longer serves. The 419 doesn't terminate at Richmond Station either. And there's absolutely no information regarding the changes to local night bus services. Oh, and of course, there's no map of the changes anywhere on the page. The only place that passengers will be able to find one is on the consultation page - but they probably won't ever see the consultation page because (of course) TfL hasn't provided a link to that page, and most people won't even know that it exists. I can only marvel at how consistently awful TfL has been in every conceivable aspect of how it's introduced and communicated these changes. Now, though, I'm glad we can all move on - for the next few years, at least...
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Post by southlondonbus on Jan 20, 2020 13:20:34 GMT
The Richmond consultation has been removed so manybe they 2 are tied up.
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Post by thelondonthing on Jan 20, 2020 13:59:22 GMT
The Richmond consultation has been removed so manybe they 2 are tied up. It's certainly possible. But it's my suspicion that TfL have simply 'deleted' the Richmond consultation, as it's impractical to implement it in its current form because of the Hammersmith Bridge complications. My guess is that the "this page is being updated and is currently unavailable" text on the now-empty Richmond consultation page is just standard placeholder text rather than a genuine promise of a soon-to-arrive update. Perhaps I'll be proved completely wrong - but I'm not holding my breath.
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