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Post by evergreenadam on Sept 10, 2020 22:05:46 GMT
What about a ferry? Just a thought. I think that has been suggested. All options are being evaluated, what is not at all clear is who will pay for them? |
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Post by greenboy on Sept 14, 2020 17:36:51 GMT
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Post by thelondonthing on Sept 14, 2020 18:31:00 GMT
As with all news stories, it's important to consider the source as much as what is being reported. That rather weak article - which provides a woefully superficial overview of the situation - is from New Zealand news site Newshub.co.nz, and the only substantiation to justify the claim that the bridge could be literally and imminently blown down by a gust of wind is this paragraph: I have no idea who "Franc Vissers, from Taranaki" is, and the article offers no explanation of why his opinion on structural integrity carries such weight, other than the fact that he is from Taranaki, New Zealand. The written article also modified his quote; in the video, he says "It could collapse at any second, apparently", but the word "apparently" was inexplicably removed from the transcription. The only other person interviewed for the article is schoolboy "William Blackshaw, whose mum is a Kiwi". |
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Post by LJ17THF on Sept 14, 2020 19:07:01 GMT
As with all news stories, it's important to consider the source as much as what is being reported. That rather weak article - which provides a woefully superficial overview of the situation - is from New Zealand news site Newshub.co.nz, and the only substantiation to justify the claim that the bridge could be literally and imminently blown down by a gust of wind is this paragraph: I have no idea who "Franc Vissers, from Taranaki" is, and the article offers no explanation of why his opinion on structural integrity carries such weight, other than the fact that he is from Taranaki, New Zealand. The written article also modified his quote; in the video, he says "It could collapse at any second, apparently", but the word "apparently" was inexplicably removed from the transcription. The only other person interviewed for the article is schoolboy "William Blackshaw, whose mum is a Kiwi". I don't know why a New Zealand news source is pondering about British issues, and asking New Zealanders on whether they think the bridge will fall. On another note, Kiwis are New Zealanders I believe, not that fruit that I was thinking of  ! All in all, this seems like a very unreliable source, from the other side of the world, who didn't ask the people of London (but asking students who live thousands of miles away are fine). There are also no parks on the way, unless the student explicitly goes into it, but it seems like a bit of waffle. |
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Post by vjaska on Sept 14, 2020 20:17:18 GMT
As with all news stories, it's important to consider the source as much as what is being reported. That rather weak article - which provides a woefully superficial overview of the situation - is from New Zealand news site Newshub.co.nz, and the only substantiation to justify the claim that the bridge could be literally and imminently blown down by a gust of wind is this paragraph: I have no idea who "Franc Vissers, from Taranaki" is, and the article offers no explanation of why his opinion on structural integrity carries such weight, other than the fact that he is from Taranaki, New Zealand. The written article also modified his quote; in the video, he says "It could collapse at any second, apparently", but the word "apparently" was inexplicably removed from the transcription. The only other person interviewed for the article is schoolboy "William Blackshaw, whose mum is a Kiwi". Which is why people should read the article rather than post the first link they see - I took one look at it and laughed. |
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Post by greenboy on Sept 14, 2020 20:51:49 GMT
As with all news stories, it's important to consider the source as much as what is being reported. That rather weak article - which provides a woefully superficial overview of the situation - is from New Zealand news site Newshub.co.nz, and the only substantiation to justify the claim that the bridge could be literally and imminently blown down by a gust of wind is this paragraph: I have no idea who "Franc Vissers, from Taranaki" is, and the article offers no explanation of why his opinion on structural integrity carries such weight, other than the fact that he is from Taranaki, New Zealand. The written article also modified his quote; in the video, he says "It could collapse at any second, apparently", but the word "apparently" was inexplicably removed from the transcription. The only other person interviewed for the article is schoolboy "William Blackshaw, whose mum is a Kiwi". I don't know why a New Zealand news source is pondering about British issues, and asking New Zealanders on whether they think the bridge will fall. On another note, Kiwis are New Zealanders I believe, not that fruit that I was thinking of ! All in all, this seems like a very unreliable source, from the other side of the world, who didn't ask the people of London (but asking students who live thousands of miles away are fine). There are also no parks on the way, unless the student explicitly goes into it, but it seems like a bit of waffle. Whilst this is exaggerated, there is obviously some risk of collapse or it wouldn't be closed to pedestrians and boats banned from passing underneath. |
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Post by thelondonthing on Sept 15, 2020 11:29:36 GMT
Somehow, I missed this utterly nauseating video posted by Conservative Mayoral candidate Shaun Bailey on 9 September, in which he takes full credit for engaging directly with the Government, and for successfully convincing ministers to "take control" of the situation because, obviously, Sadiq Khan "wasn't going to". I'm particularly amused as I predicted exactly this outcome on 5 September (although I did expect the Conservatives to wait until the Mayoral election date had been announced before depicting Bailey as the legendary Saviour of Hammersmith Bridge & All Who Cross Over Her): So, Bailey has come to the rescue of local residents by valiantly "lobbying the Government" to help, because Sadiq Khan refused (and of course, as Bailey's campaign manager Greg Hands said last week, TfL "never wanted to repair & reopen" the bridge at all). In order to accept this ambitious re-interpretation of reality, we must conveniently gloss over the fact that EVERYONE - including TfL and the Mayor's office - has been asking the Government to help since mid-2019, and that the Government has repeatedly refused to do so. We'll also have to smash our heads against a brick wall until we all collectively forget that TfL remains the only stakeholder to have actually committed any money to the project to date. Additionally, we'll need to somehow overlook that TfL is no longer allowed to spend the remainder of the money that it committed to the project, because the Government is preventing it from doing so under its coronavirus emergency funding arrangement. And we must delete from our minds the fact that money has already been spent by TfL on emergency stabilisation works and detailed engineering assessments that began in 2019 to begin repairs, to identify the full scope of works needed to fully restore the bridge, to design a temporary bridge, and to manage a full public consultation process for it that was completed months ago. We must forget all of these things because the Ministry of Truth has made it clear that Sadiq Khan was never ever going to do anything to help, and TfL never ever wanted the bridge to reopen. It's tremendously encouraging that Bailey wheeled out Corinne Stockheath Sebastian Fox Michael Greene -- sorry, sorry, I meant the extremely honest and trustworthy Grant Shapps, of course (I get confused, because they're all the same person) to announce the formation of a new task force to oversee the bridge project... which, as we know, is being overseen by Baroness Vere. Despite actually leading the task force, she apparently isn't allowed to be in the video because it's much more important that Bailey and Shapps take the credit for everything (and let's be fair, given that even the dizzying heights of mediocrity remain an eternally distant and unattainable goal for either of them, we shouldn't begrudge them taking credit where it's absolutely not due. Baroness Vere's subordinate role is also essential as Shapps will need some lesser-known ministerial dead-weight to sack if when everything goes wrong). Aptly demonstrating his keen grasp of the situation in the video, Shapps revealed that the first, best people he decided to call to sort out this crumbling road bridge was Network Rail. Outstanding. |
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Post by richard on Sept 17, 2020 9:42:06 GMT
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Post by kmkcheng on Sept 18, 2020 13:07:08 GMT
There’s an article in today’s times that parents of pupils at St Paul’s school in Barnes have been illegally ferrying pupils across the river in small boats carrying up to 5 pupils at a time as part of the school run which takes one minute compared to the 1-2 hour school run by car
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Post by galwhv69 on Sept 18, 2020 13:23:36 GMT
There’s an article in today’s times that parents of pupils at St Paul’s school in Barnes have been illegally ferrying pupils across the river in small boats carrying up to 5 pupils at a time as part of the school run which takes one minute compared to the 1-2 hour school run by car lol |
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Post by ronnie on Sept 19, 2020 0:22:51 GMT
There’s an article in today’s times that parents of pupils at St Paul’s school in Barnes have been illegally ferrying pupils across the river in small boats carrying up to 5 pupils at a time as part of the school run which takes one minute compared to the 1-2 hour school run by car I don’t blame them frankly. When the state machinery fails abjectly and is only interested in politicking, people get fed up and take up matters in their own hand I have a friend who has 2 kids who go to 2 different schools on opposite sides of the river .... |
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Post by evergreenadam on Sept 19, 2020 7:18:52 GMT
533 increases to every 15mins at all times from today. Lots of stories online last week about people being left behind at stops due to lack of capacity. So I expect it will not be enough.
In theory could it be converted to double deck operation?
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Post by John tuthill on Sept 19, 2020 9:13:16 GMT
There’s an article in today’s times that parents of pupils at St Paul’s school in Barnes have been illegally ferrying pupils across the river in small boats carrying up to 5 pupils at a time as part of the school run which takes one minute compared to the 1-2 hour school run by car[/quote Why is it 'illegal?' H&F are missing a trick here, could keep the voters happy? (Not my photo)  View Attachment |
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Post by kmkcheng on Sept 19, 2020 9:29:29 GMT
There’s an article in today’s times that parents of pupils at St Paul’s school in Barnes have been illegally ferrying pupils across the river in small boats carrying up to 5 pupils at a time as part of the school run which takes one minute compared to the 1-2 hour school run by car[/quote Why is it 'illegal?' H&F are missing a trick here, could keep the voters happy? (Not my photo) View AttachmentIt’s illegal as they are technically providing a public service using boats that have not been assessed for safety and are unlicensed |
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Post by rm1422 on Sept 19, 2020 9:50:45 GMT
533 increases to every 15mins at all times from today. Lots of stories online last week about people being left behind at stops due to lack of capacity. So I expect it will not be enough. In theory could it be converted to double deck operation? Only section that doesn't have regular double deckers is Lonsdale Road from Watermans Arms up to Castlenau. I believe DD's as school buses regularly visit St Paul's School on Lonsdale Road. The N22 does the centre of Barnes to Chalkers Corner. The biggest issue is driving in the middle of the road to meet the height restiction at Barnes Bridge. |
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