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Post by astock5000 on Aug 3, 2017 18:54:30 GMT
As there hasn't been one of these recently I thought I'd make one. Usual scoring system applies, with 50 points for any incorrect answers. Please send answers using PMs before midnight on 17th August (two weeks from now).
1. Name an operator which has New Routemasters in its fleet.
2. Pick one of the three heritage liveries carried by New Routemasters.
3. Name a New Routemaster operated route which previously ran with customer assistants.
4. Name a type of bus which has been used by CT Plus on route 388.
5. Name an operator which purchased new Volvo Citybuses for use on London routes.
6. Name an Arriva garage which currently has VLAs allocated.
7. Pick any (as built) variant of the original Routemaster.
8. Name a type of body built on the Dart SLF.
9. Now name a body built on the step entrance version of the Dart.
10. Name a double deck chassis built by Dennis.
11. Name a TfL route which serves Hatton Cross.
12. Choose a route which is currently operated from Harrow Weald garage.
13. Name a TfL route which has either (officially) fully converted to electric buses or has been announced as converting in the future.
14. Name a Stagecoach London garage which is north of the Thames.
15. Plan a journey from Edgware to Waterloo using a maximum of three buses (daytime routes only, and not using any other modes of transport).
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Post by snowman on Aug 4, 2017 13:27:12 GMT
As there hasn't been one of these recently I thought I'd make one. Usual scoring system applies, with 50 points for any incorrect answers. Please send answers using PMs before midnight on 17th August (two weeks from now). 1. Name an operator which has New Routemasters in its fleet. 2. Pick one of the three heritage liveries carried by New Routemasters. 3. Name a New Routemaster operated route which previously ran with customer assistants. 4. Name a type of bus which has been used by CT Plus on route 388. 5. Name an operator which purchased new Volvo Citybuses for use on London routes. 6. Name an Arriva garage which currently has VLAs allocated. 7. Pick any (as built) variant of the original Routemaster. 8. Name a type of body built on the Dart SLF. 9. Now name a body built on the step entrance version of the Dart. 10. Name a double deck chassis built by Dennis. 11. Name a TfL route which serves Hatton Cross. 12. Choose a route which is currently operated from Harrow Weald garage. 13. Name a TfL route which has either (officially) fully converted to electric buses or has been announced as converting in the future. 14. Name a Stagecoach London garage which is north of the Thames. 15. Plan a journey from Edgware to Waterloo using a maximum of three buses (daytime routes only, and not using any other modes of transport). Thanks for organisaing, I'll PM you when I have had time to think.
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Post by snoggle on Aug 4, 2017 16:59:37 GMT
15. Plan a journey from Edgware to Waterloo using a maximum of three buses (daytime routes only, and not using any other modes of transport). Could you confirm what you mean by "Waterloo". Is it the station so just York Rd / Waterloo Road or is Westminster Bridge Rd (back of Waterloo) also valid?
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Post by astock5000 on Aug 4, 2017 17:53:25 GMT
Just the stops which serve the station. Sorry that wasn't clear, I suppose I just don't tend to think of the Westminster Bridge Road area as being part of Waterloo even though some of the station's platforms reach that far.
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Post by snoggle on Aug 4, 2017 18:08:21 GMT
Just the stops which serve the station. Sorry that wasn't clear, I suppose I just don't tend to think of the Westminster Bridge Road area as being part of Waterloo even though some of the station's platforms reach that far. Thanks. That rules out a number of possibilities.
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Post by 6HP502C on Aug 10, 2017 23:15:09 GMT
Interesting quiz - I'll have a stab at this!
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Post by Alex on Aug 11, 2017 1:06:50 GMT
Interesting quiz - I'll have a stab at this! Yes! Cheers for posting up - certainly whiles away a few minutes at 2am
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Post by astock5000 on Aug 16, 2017 20:10:11 GMT
Update:
Eight entries have been received so far. I've also decided to keep this open until the end of Sunday to give anyone who might have missed it a bit more time to answer. I should then be able to post the results shortly afterwards.
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Post by astock5000 on Aug 20, 2017 23:40:33 GMT
Here are the results of the quiz:
1st: twobellstogo - 28 points 2nd: snoggle - 31 points 3rd: Hassaan - 33 points 4th: 1tocanadawater - 35 points 5th: busoccultation - 37 points 6th: TR* - 38 points 7th: vjaska - 39 points 8th: Alex and The Urbanite - 40 points 10th: john and snowman - 41 points
The full answers and results are below.
1. Name an operator which has New Routemasters in its fleet
Abellio London - 3 points: Hassaan, twobellstogo and The Urbanite Metroline - 3 points: snowman, TR* and Alex Stagecoach London - 3 points: 1tocanadawater, john and busoccultation Arriva London - 1 point: vjaska RATP London - 1 point: snoggle Go-Ahead London - 0 points
2. Pick one of the three heritage liveries carried by New Routemasters
London General Red / White (LT60) - 5 points: john, snowman, TR*, Alex and vjaska London General Cream / Red (LT50) - 3 points: 1tocanadawater, snoggle and twobellstogo London Transport Country Area (LT2) - 3 points: busoccultation, Hassaan and The Urbanite
3. Name a New Routemaster operated route which previously ran with customer assistants
Route 9 - 4 points: john, snowman, TR* and Hassaan Route 10 - 2 points: 1tocanadawater and busoccultation Route 11 - 2 points: Alex and vjaska Route 24 - 2 points: twobellstogo and The Urbanite Route 390 - 1 point: snoggle Route 38 - 0 points
4. Name a type of bus which has been used by CT Plus on route 388
OmniCity (SD class) - 3 points: busoccultation, Alex and Hassaan Trident / President (HTP class) - 3 points: 1tocanadawater, TR* and The Urbanite Trident / Myllennium Lolyne (HTL class) - 2 points: john and snowman Enviro400H (HEA1) - 1 point: snoggle Enviro400H City (25xx series) - 1 point: twobellstogo Enviro400 / Olympus (EO1) - 1 point: vjaska Enviro400 MMC (2400) - 0 points Dart SLF / Nimbus (DCS class) - 0 points Enviro200 (DA class) - 0 points Enviro200 / Esteem (DE class) - 0 points (The single deck types worked the route as extras during a tube strike, but that still counts!)
5. Name an operator which purchased new Volvo Citybuses for use on London routes
London & Country - 4 points: snowman, snoggle, twobellstogo and The Urbanite Grey-Green - 3 points: 1tocanadawater, john and Alex London General - 3 points: busoccultation, Hassaan and vjaska Boro'Line Maidstone - 1 point: TR*
6. Name an Arriva garage which currently has VLAs allocated
Norwood N - 5 points: snowman, Alex, twobellstogo, vjaska and The Urbanite Grays GY - 3 points: john, snoggle and Hassaan Barking DX - 2 points: busoccultation and TR* Edmonton EC - 1 point: 1tocanadawater Garston GR - 0 points
7. Pick any (as built) variant of the original Routemaster
RMA (Airport) - 4 points: john, Alex, vjaska and The Urbanite RMC (Coach) - 2 points: 1tocanadawater and Hassaan RML (or ER, long) - 2 points: busoccultation and snowman RCL (Long coach) - 1 point: snoggle RM (Standard) - 1 point: twobellstogo RMF (Forward entrance) - 1 point: TR* CRL (Leyland coach) - 0 points FRM (Front entrance, rear engined) - 0 points RML3 (Leyland) - 0 points
8. Name a type of body built on the Dart SLF
Caetano Nimbus - 3 points: john, busoccultation and The Urbanite UVG Urbanstar / Caetano Compass - 2 points: snowman and TR* Alexander ALX200 - 1 point: twobellstogo East Lancs Spryte - 1 point: Alex Marshall Capital - 1 point: Hassaan Neobus - 1 point: vjaska Plaxton Pointer 2 - 1 point: 1tocanadawater Wrightbus Crusader - 1 point: snoggle East Lancs Esteem - 0 points East Lancs Myllennium - 0 points MCV Evolution - 0 points Plaxton Pointer - 0 points
9. Now name a body built on the step entrance version of the Dart
Alexander Dash - 3 points: 1tocanadawater, sonwman and Alex Wrightbus Handybus - 3 points: john, busoccultation and The Urbanite East Lancs EL2000 - 2 points: snoggle and TR* Duple Dartline - 1 point: Hassaan UVG Urbanstar - 1 point: vjaska Wadham Stringer Portsdown - 1 point: twobellstogo Marshall C37 - 0 points Northern Counties Paladin - 0 points Plaxton Pointer - 0 points
10. Name a double deck chassis built by Dennis
Arrow - 3 points: TR*, vjaska and The Urbanite Dominator - 2 points: jogn and Alex Falcon - 2 points: snowman and snoggle Trident - 2 points: 1tocanadawater and busoccultation Dragon / Condor - 1 point: Hassaan Loline - 1 point: twobellstogo Jubilant - 0 points
11. Name a TfL route which serves Hatton Cross
H26 - 3 points: busoccultation, snowman and vjaska 423 - 2 points: TR* and twobellstogo 482 - 2 points: snoggle and Hassaan 490 - 2 points: 1tocanadawater and john 90 - 1 point: The Urbanite 285 - 1 point: Alex 203 - 0 points H25 - 0 points X26 - 0 points
12. Choose a route which is currently operated from Harrow Weald garage
H12 - 4 points: 1tocanadawater, snoggle, TR* and vjaska N18 - 3 points: busoccultation, Hassaan and The Urbanite 182 - 2 points: snowman and Alex 140 - 1 point: twobellstogo 640 - 1 point: john
13. Name a TfL route which has either (officially) fully converted to electric buses or has been announced as converting in the future
153 - 2 points: snoggle and vjaska 214 - 2 points: john and busoccultation 360 - 2 points: 1tocanadawater and Alex C1 - 2 points: snowman and TR* 70 - 1 point: Hassaan 507 - 1 point: The Urbanite 521 - 1 point: twobellstogo 312 - 0 points
14. Name a Stagecoach London garage which is north of the Thames
Rainham RM - 3 points: john, snoggle and Alex Romford NS - 3 points: 1tocanadawater, TR* and vjaska Barking BK - 2 points: busoccultation and Hassaan Bow BW - 1 point: snowman Leyton T - 1 point: The Urbanite West Ham WH - 1 point: twobellstogo
15. Plan a journey from Edgware to Waterloo using a maximum of three buses (daytime routes only, and not using any other modes of transport)
Everyone chose a different combination of routes and therefore score 1 point each: 1tocanadawater: 251 to Totteridge & Whetstone, 263 to Highbury & Islington, 4 john: 113 to Oxford Circus, 159 to Parliament Square, 211 busoccultation: 221 to Wood Green, 243 snowman: 79 to Wembley Central, 18 to Euston, 168 snoggle: 32 to Cricklewood, 16 to Victoria, 507 TR*: 221 to Wood Green, 67 to Shoreditch, 26 Alex: 32 to Cricklewood, 266 to Hammersmith, 211 Hassaan: 186 to Brent Cross, 189 to (anywhere along their common section), 139 twobellstogo: 32 to Kilburn 16 to Victoria, 211 vjaska: 240 to Golders Green, 139 The Urbanite: 240 to Golders Green, 328 to Chelsea, 211
Thanks to everyone who took part and congratulations to twobellstogo!!
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Post by snoggle on Aug 21, 2017 0:15:55 GMT
Here are the results of the quiz: 1st: twobellstogo - 28 points 2nd: snoggle - 31 points [snip] 15. Plan a journey from Edgware to Waterloo using a maximum of three buses (daytime routes only, and not using any other modes of transport) Everyone chose a different combination of routes and therefore score 1 point each: 1tocanadawater: 251 to Totteridge & Whetstone, 263 to Highbury & Islington, 4 john: 113 to Oxford Circus, 159 to Parliament Square, 211 busoccultation: 221 to Wood Green, 243 snowman: 79 to Wembley Central, 18 to Euston, 168 snoggle: 32 to Cricklewood, 16 to Victoria, 507 TR*: 221 to Wood Green, 67 to Shoreditch, 26 Alex: 32 to Cricklewood, 266 to Hammersmith, 211 Hassaan: 186 to Brent Cross, 189 to (anywhere along their common section), 139 twobellstogo: 32 to Kilburn 16 to Victoria, 211 vjaska: 240 to Golders Green, 139 The Urbanite: 240 to Golders Green, 328 to Chelsea, 211 Thanks to everyone who took part and congratulations to twobellstogo!! Curses - beaten by being a bit too clever in a couple of places. I toyed with going for different answers on some and didn't. I am completely fascinated by the answers to no15. A few in there that never dawned on me which I find interesting. I wonder how much the answers are just how people's brains work relative to the knowledge they have and how much they are researched, clever answers designed to avoid the "obvious" answers. I think 1tocanadawater, busoccultation, snowman, TR* and hassaan's answers are particularly intriguing. Using the 251 and then 263 never entered by head.
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Post by twobellstogo on Aug 21, 2017 11:28:12 GMT
Yay! That's the first time I've won one of these forum quizzes 😃 Thanks for organising, astock5000
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Post by 6HP502C on Aug 21, 2017 18:26:38 GMT
Really good quiz astock5000 , decent range of questions. Well done twobellstogo for winning! I thought I was being clever on a couple of them - not realising LondonLinks would be lumped in with L&C. Likewise with the Caetano Slimbus, which has been counted under Nimbus. It's as much gamble going for really obvious answers like Pointers for the Darts as it is going for obscure stuff, but that adds to the fun of it. Question 15 was interesting, never thought of doing one like that. Wonder how many variants there are if it was limited to two routes - guess the 113, 221 or 240 would be the only options to start with?
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Post by astock5000 on Aug 21, 2017 19:14:44 GMT
I couldn't find any evidence of Citybuses being delivered new to LondonLinks, so thought I was being generous by counting it as London & Country. As for the Slimbus, I tend to find the use of that name isn't consistent (the same goes for several types and operators and in general I went with the names I would normally use (hence Enviro400 / Olympus and not Trident / Olympus, Enviro400H and not E40H / Enviro400, etc).
Another thing to mention here is that I counted the Leyland prototype Routemasters as separate variants (due to them originally having their own codes) but RM1/2 simply as prototypes for the standard RM. In the end no one went for any of those but in some cases it's impossible to explain how some things will be counted without giving away the obscure answers, which then makes choosing them more risky.
I also like the format of these quizzes as to whether to pick the obscure answers or hope that most others know them and go with the more obvious, hoping they haven't had the same thought. Looking at questions 9, 13 and to some extent 7 and 8 too, it appears the obscure answers were more popular this time.
I briefly considered only allowing two routes for question 15 but thought that wouldn't give enough possibilities. However as it was there were many more than I realised, I had about eight listed and less than half were actually given as answers. A few were similar, for example anything via Victoria then has the 211 or 507 option.
A few (probably more obvious) others I had worked out were: 142, 189, 139 142, 266, 211 221, 141, 26 or 76 - Other than this, most of the easterly options didn't occur to me. 113, 139
It was certainly interesting to see what everyone came up with, especially as I'm not always as knowledgeable about routes as I am with the buses which operate them. In fact a few of those answers have given me some ideas for future bus journeys! Anyway I'm glad the question worked well, despite it not affecting the result of the quiz. I suppose the trick would be to estimate the number of people taking part and then work out a journey that has an appropriate number of options, though that would require a good knowledge of the route network and plenty of time to check for all possible answers, whereas Edgware and Waterloo were simply the first two places which came into my head!
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Post by busoccultation on Aug 21, 2017 19:56:38 GMT
It was a excellent quiz and thanks for organising this quiz astock5000.
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Post by Alex on Aug 21, 2017 22:23:25 GMT
Well thanks very much indeed astock5000 and big well done to twobellstogo . As you'll recall in my PM Mr. astock5000, I never expected to win by a long way, though I'm amazed got on to the eighth place bracket and not the tenth one , was a great bit of fun and thanks again for hosting and thanks to the members who took part. I am completely fascinated by the answers to no15. A few in there that never dawned on me which I find interesting. I wonder how much the answers are just how people's brains work relative to the knowledge they have and how much they are researched, clever answers designed to avoid the "obvious" answers. I didn't think research would come into it......the impression I had was it had to be all memory, akin to the TV show contestants standing in the studio and doing things on the fly. My route was basically the longest I way I could think of quickly! Thought a more direct one would get more points. The bit I find intriguing is that all the answers were different, but a few ended with the 211 After submitting this I wished I had put DX for question 6, as I saw one on the 368 outside not long after! I think there was a definite tactic of 'don't go for the big ones' which backfired quite a bit on a few questions! Such as nobody picking Go-Ahead for question 2, or the 38 for question 3. Such is the nature of the game I suppose. Definitely a good bit to exercise the brain though and hope there's more quizzes and questions soon
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