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Post by snoggle on Aug 21, 2017 11:01:53 GMT
Not really driverless if you look closely but what the heck was going on? A 453 "trundles" away from its stand at Marylebone straight on to the Marylebone Rd. Amazing there was not a collision. |
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Post by enviroPB on Aug 21, 2017 16:05:16 GMT
Footage: www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/41000506/london-bus-moves-forward-without-driverWhat's amazing is that there were passenger(s) on board. That suggests that the driver of LT305 left the brake off whilst on stand and whilst letting passengers on at the stand. The latter I regard as not a real problem given the stand arrangements for the 453 (bus waits in front of 1st stop so discrection comes into play for early boarding). TfL is gonna have a go at the driver for that. Ultimately if this 'handbrake off' practise was commonplace with the driver, then it was only going to be a matter of time before the laws of physics and gravity caught up with him!  |
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Post by sid on Aug 21, 2017 22:24:30 GMT
TfL might lambast Go Ahead and it's up to them to deal with the driver.
Something very similar happened at nearby Paddington years ago involving a Trident on the 15.
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Post by moz on Aug 22, 2017 1:29:44 GMT
I'm always wary with handbrake handles. I've had a couple bounce back off after I thought it was fully locked though thankfully I was in the cab when it happened. Nowadays I always pull the handbrake on then give it a second pull just to be on the safe side - the click means nothing! On the RM's I never bothered with the faff of getting that ratchet thing on and off and simply held the bus on the footbrake.
Moz
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Post by M1104 on Aug 22, 2017 8:36:47 GMT
I'm always wary with handbrake handles. I've had a couple bounce back off after I thought it was fully locked though thankfully I was in the cab when it happened. Nowadays I always pull the handbrake on then give it a second pull just to be on the safe side - the click means nothing! On the RM's I never bothered with the faff of getting that ratchet thing on and off and simply held the bus on the footbrake. Moz I remember once going mechanical on a DRL[1] because the handbrake wouldn't even click in let alone lock. I sat there at Clapham Junction with my foot on the brakes until the engineers arrived with a sub. With the older MA and SR class midibuses I was rarely ever confident that their handbrake would properly hold on those breadvans, though they were a few that were pretty good. [1] - step entrance predecessor to the LDPs |
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Post by moz on Aug 22, 2017 21:20:11 GMT
I'm always wary with handbrake handles. I've had a couple bounce back off after I thought it was fully locked though thankfully I was in the cab when it happened. Nowadays I always pull the handbrake on then give it a second pull just to be on the safe side - the click means nothing! On the RM's I never bothered with the faff of getting that ratchet thing on and off and simply held the bus on the footbrake. Moz I remember once going mechanical on a DRL[1] because the handbrake wouldn't even click in let alone lock. I sat there at Clapham Junction with my foot on the brakes until the engineers arrived with a sub. With the older MA and SR class midibuses I was rarely ever confident that their handbrake would properly hold on those breadvans, though they were a few that were pretty good. [1] - step entrance predecessor to the LDPs I never liked the handbrakes on the midibuses, nothing like the proper clunky handles on a Metro! I also had a similar experience to you when one of the nut and bolt fixings came loose from an RML handbrake and fell through the gator. Luckily it was while it was on so didn't have to keep my foot on the brake, but did have to stay in the cab just in case. Double lucky I had a conductor I could send off and get me tea! Moz |
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Post by sid on Aug 22, 2017 23:20:46 GMT
I heard something about a similar incident involving a 108 in Westcombe Hill, driver got out of the cab to deal with a problem with the rear door and the bus rolled away.
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Post by planesandtrains on Sept 9, 2017 10:07:14 GMT
I have to say though, the drivers quick reaction saved the day, despite his (possible) mistake earlier!
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Post by M1104 on Sept 9, 2017 10:24:33 GMT
I have to say though, the drivers quick reaction saved the day, despite his (possible) mistake earlier! A good thing he could get access into the cab to reach the handbrake in time. In the time it takes some cab doors to open (with their locks) the bus would surely have screwed up Euston Road. |
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