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Post by planesandtrains on Feb 19, 2018 23:01:02 GMT
Late Feb is now the potential for heavy snow in the south Unfortunately this may be quite a serious event. Even if the Models are watered down, it will still be cold and snowy. Could have serious implications on London's Transport infrastructure. I hope it gets watered down, this is however the unlikely option. Worst come worst, I will get down to FW to help dig out the buses
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Post by SILENCED on Feb 19, 2018 23:04:53 GMT
Late Feb is now the potential for heavy snow in the south Unfortunately this may be quite a serious event. Even if the Models are watered down, it will still be cold and snowy. Could have serious implications on London's Transport infrastructure. I hope it gets watered down, this is however the unlikely option. Worst come worst, I will get down to FW to help dig out the buses Where are you getting this info ... my Met Office app is showing chances of precipitation low ... and even then it would be rain.
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Post by planesandtrains on Feb 19, 2018 23:16:46 GMT
Unfortunately this may be quite a serious event. Even if the Models are watered down, it will still be cold and snowy. Could have serious implications on London's Transport infrastructure. I hope it gets watered down, this is however the unlikely option. Worst come worst, I will get down to FW to help dig out the buses Where are you getting this info ... my Met Office app is showing chances of precipitation low ... and even then it would be rain. Essentially, it's because there is uncertainty. Because of this uncertainty the MetOffice doesn't want to cause any alarm at this stage. This video highlights the different options for the next week: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q_JrbVtc8c
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2018 23:59:56 GMT
Where are you getting this info ... my Met Office app is showing chances of precipitation low ... and even then it would be rain. Essentially, it's because there is uncertainty. Because of this uncertainty the MetOffice doesn't want to cause any alarm at this stage. This video highlights the different options for the next week: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q_JrbVtc8cThe chap I follow on Twitter is being very cautious , understandably so given forecasting snow is a nightmare. The temperature is going to be right, it’s just whether we get the moisture as man in video nicely explains. Consensus is if this event comes off, it will be very deep snow with drifting. I may even get some cans of food in. Last time in Kent we couldn’t get out of the village I lived in for over two days.
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Post by snoggle on Feb 20, 2018 0:19:50 GMT
Unfortunately this may be quite a serious event. Even if the Models are watered down, it will still be cold and snowy. Could have serious implications on London's Transport infrastructure. I hope it gets watered down, this is however the unlikely option. Worst come worst, I will get down to FW to help dig out the buses Where are you getting this info ... my Met Office app is showing chances of precipitation low ... and even then it would be rain. The Netweather site, run with Michael Fish as a consultant, is showing repeated snowfall over umpteen days in late Feb / early March. Clearly it is very much dependent on the wind flow, the extent of cold temperatures and if any moisture is carried into the UK from the east. The reversal of the upper atmosphere flow and the buckling of the jet stream means we may be lumbered with cold weather for weeks. I am dreading the impact on my gas bill. For me I would not be remotely surprised - this is typical late Winter / early Spring. We get more daylight but the weather becomes a right s*d and dumps snow, ice and freezing gales on Southern England's doorstep as a last hideous reminder of winter. I can almost hear it going "ha ha ha - got you again". Scotland and the North at least get snow when they're supposed to - late December and through Jan into early Feb. We get next to nothing but then get a late season fright.
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Post by vjaska on Feb 20, 2018 1:50:07 GMT
Well good luck to you all as it rarely settles here and I'm a massive fan of snow because I'm a big kid
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Post by ServerKing on Feb 20, 2018 3:22:10 GMT
Where are you getting this info ... my Met Office app is showing chances of precipitation low ... and even then it would be rain. The Netweather site, run with Michael Fish as a consultant, is showing repeated snowfall over umpteen days in late Feb / early March. Clearly it is very much dependent on the wind flow, the extent of cold temperatures and if any moisture is carried into the UK from the east. The reversal of the upper atmosphere flow and the buckling of the jet stream means we may be lumbered with cold weather for weeks. I am dreading the impact on my gas bill. For me I would not be remotely surprised - this is typical late Winter / early Spring. We get more daylight but the weather becomes a right s*d and dumps snow, ice and freezing gales on Southern England's doorstep as a last hideous reminder of winter. I can almost hear it going "ha ha ha - got you again". Scotland and the North at least get snow when they're supposed to - late December and through Jan into early Feb. We get next to nothing but then get a late season fright. They reckon from Sunday it will start. Next Monday will be fun, especially if we get a repeat of 2010. Time to put the snow chains on the 184 ENLs
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Post by snowman on Feb 20, 2018 6:44:15 GMT
The Netweather site, run with Michael Fish as a consultant, is showing repeated snowfall over umpteen days in late Feb / early March. Clearly it is very much dependent on the wind flow, the extent of cold temperatures and if any moisture is carried into the UK from the east. The reversal of the upper atmosphere flow and the buckling of the jet stream means we may be lumbered with cold weather for weeks. I am dreading the impact on my gas bill. For me I would not be remotely surprised - this is typical late Winter / early Spring. We get more daylight but the weather becomes a right s*d and dumps snow, ice and freezing gales on Southern England's doorstep as a last hideous reminder of winter. I can almost hear it going "ha ha ha - got you again". Scotland and the North at least get snow when they're supposed to - late December and through Jan into early Feb. We get next to nothing but then get a late season fright. They reckon from Sunday it will start. Next Monday will be fun, especially if we get a repeat of 2010. Time to put the snow chains on the 184 ENLs No doubt it will be the usual, some garages running nearly all their routes, and others giving up The usual problem is some boroughs rely on salting, (rather than ploughing) which allows snow to settle on the road. They then make stupid statements like not enough traffic on Sunday nights, to make salt work, so we chose to salt rather than plough the snow. You need the heavy vehicles (like buses) to crush the salt crystals otherwise they just sit there. So when daytime routes start (along roads that have had no overnight traffic) the chaos starts Salt water may lower the freezing point, but isnt much use (unless in high concentrations) when night time temperatures fall below -6 And daytime temperatures might struggle to get above -3 www.meteociel.fr/modeles/geme_cartes.php?ech=6&code=0&carte=2&mode=1&archive=0For those that like a link, this is French weather chart, Southern England is at top. Click on the numbers (hours from now) down left and you will see the -13 isotherm from about Sunday lunchtime until at least following Friday, sometimes colder, -16 band at times (as a rough guide surface temps will be 8 or 9 degrees warmer)
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Post by capitalomnibus on Feb 20, 2018 11:26:04 GMT
Doubt it would snow, been getting them rubbish forecasts for London over the past few weeks, with anything but a few flakes. There isn't going to be any snow thicker than an inch if anything. If there is, I would go and make a snowball, put some syrup over it and eat it.
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Post by snoggle on Feb 20, 2018 11:38:10 GMT
Doubt it would snow, been getting them rubbish forecasts for London over the past few weeks, with anything but a few flakes. There isn't going to be any snow thicker than an inch if anything. If there is, I would go and make a snowball, put some syrup over it and eat it. The BBC have now started raising the prospect of snow in the east so clearly they are firming up their forecasts. As ever we shall see what happens.
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Post by sid on Feb 20, 2018 22:42:20 GMT
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Post by ServerKing on Feb 20, 2018 22:54:52 GMT
They reckon from Sunday it will start. Next Monday will be fun, especially if we get a repeat of 2010. Time to put the snow chains on the 184 ENLs No doubt it will be the usual, some garages running nearly all their routes, and others giving up The usual problem is some boroughs rely on salting, (rather than ploughing) which allows snow to settle on the road. They then make stupid statements like not enough traffic on Sunday nights, to make salt work, so we chose to salt rather than plough the snow. You need the heavy vehicles (like buses) to crush the salt crystals otherwise they just sit there. So when daytime routes start (along roads that have had no overnight traffic) the chaos starts Salt water may lower the freezing point, but isnt much use (unless in high concentrations) when night time temperatures fall below -6 And daytime temperatures might struggle to get above -3 www.meteociel.fr/modeles/geme_cartes.php?ech=6&code=0&carte=2&mode=1&archive=0For those that like a link, this is French weather chart, Southern England is at top. Click on the numbers (hours from now) down left and you will see the -13 isotherm from about Sunday lunchtime until at least following Friday, sometimes colder, -16 band at times (as a rough guide surface temps will be 8 or 9 degrees warmer) Mon Dieu! that French weather chart shows temps in the East of England at minus 7 at some point next week. Hopefully they have not employed a Monsieur Poisson (Michael Fish) who is way off the mark like with the 1987 storm if it us true, the W3's will struggle like Cheryl's marriage and it will be Bear Payne around Ally Pally Especially with leaderless Haringey Council who can barely be arsed to get their contractor Veolia to clean the streets and pick up litter, who'll grit around WN, AR and bus stations and main roads? Temperatures will tumble like Jamie Oliver's profits from Sunday, so be prepared and wrap up warm
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Feb 20, 2018 23:11:14 GMT
Doubt it would snow, been getting them rubbish forecasts for London over the past few weeks, with anything but a few flakes. There isn't going to be any snow thicker than an inch if anything. If there is, I would go and make a snowball, put some syrup over it and eat it. I agree there, last I read in October we were meant to have 3 months of a very harsh winter wonder what happened to that . I would be very surprised if any notable amount of snow fell next week, I am looking forward to throwing a few snowballs at my friend if it does happen but I'll believe it when I see it.
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Post by snoggle on Feb 21, 2018 0:44:24 GMT
I agree there, last I read in October we were meant to have 3 months of a very harsh winter wonder what happened to that . I would be very surprised if any notable amount of snow fell next week, I am looking forward to throwing a few snowballs at my friend if it does happen but I'll believe it when I see it. Oh come on - that sounds like one of those regular hysterical Daily Express headlines. No one can predict weather 3 months out so you can always ignore those nonsensical "it's going to be freezing / boiling hot / pouring with rain forever in 3 months time" headlines. We are talking about 7-10 days which is reasonably foreseeable if not wholly accurate. It is pretty clear it is going to be cold from Monday right through into early March because the operation of the jetstream has been "broken" by the changes in the upper atmosphere. The wind chill is also going to be very significant for those of us on the eastern side of the UK. No forecaster is yet making any prediction as to when the jetstream will strengthen sufficiently across the Atlantic to counteract the enormous high pressure which will stretch from Scandanavia right across Russia to Siberia. The only way the temperature rises is if the high pressure weakens a very great deal / breaks up and we get a return to a pattern of weather from the west or south west which are marginally warmer at this time of year. It is deeply ironic that meteorological Spring starts on 1 March when we will be freezing our dangly bits off.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Feb 21, 2018 11:11:16 GMT
I agree there, last I read in October we were meant to have 3 months of a very harsh winter wonder what happened to that . I would be very surprised if any notable amount of snow fell next week, I am looking forward to throwing a few snowballs at my friend if it does happen but I'll believe it when I see it. Oh come on - that sounds like one of those regular hysterical Daily Express headlines. No one can predict weather 3 months out so you can always ignore those nonsensical "it's going to be freezing / boiling hot / pouring with rain forever in 3 months time" headlines. We are talking about 7-10 days which is reasonably foreseeable if not wholly accurate. It is pretty clear it is going to be cold from Monday right through into early March because the operation of the jetstream has been "broken" by the changes in the upper atmosphere. The wind chill is also going to be very significant for those of us on the eastern side of the UK. No forecaster is yet making any prediction as to when the jetstream will strengthen sufficiently across the Atlantic to counteract the enormous high pressure which will stretch from Scandanavia right across Russia to Siberia. The only way the temperature rises is if the high pressure weakens a very great deal / breaks up and we get a return to a pattern of weather from the west or south west which are marginally warmer at this time of year. It is deeply ironic that meteorological Spring starts on 1 March when we will be freezing our dangly bits off. He isn't being hysterical, Evening Standard have been printing it over the past few months.
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