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Post by twobellstogo on Mar 29, 2024 10:12:16 GMT
TfL is tentatively considering extensions to the Elizabeth Line, and also how to increase capacity in the Central Core. TfL is already in talks to secure finding for additional trains ahead of the opening of HS2 to Old Oak Common, currently expected in 2030. Looking ahead, TfL has the options of either increasing the service through the Central Core from 24 to 30 tph, with the extra services operating between Abbey Wood and Reading/Heathrow Airport. Alternatively, adding an extra carriage to each train increasing each one to ten coaches (for which the Central Core stations were all designed) would in itself increase capacity by 11 per cent. TfL is also exploring extensions, the most obvious is from Abbey Wood to Ebbsfleet International but that would require substantial funding as the line east of Abbey Wood would need upgrading and converting to overhead electrification. The other two extensions are much more achievable, and piggyback on two earlier extensions proposed from Terminal 5. A link to Langley could see some services to and from Reading diverted via Heathrow Airport. Alternatively (or possibly as well) a link to Staines, where there is room to construct terminal platforms adjacent to the existing station, is a possibility. These are respectively the Western Rail Link and Southern Rail Link which have already been explored as possible new lines previously. www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/tfl-looking-at-extending-the-elizabeth-line-east-and-west-of-london-70533/ Interesting. Do we know if the Elizabeth Line fleet is dual voltage like Thameslink trains? If so they could just put a set of points in before Abbey Wood and bring the Elizabeth Line train into the Southeastern platforms at Abbey Wood, where the trains can run towards Gravesend/Ebbsfleet and the services that terminate at Abbey Wood can do so at the existing terminus platforms. Even if this was simple (it really isn’t), I see far more value in the two western proposals for the Elizabeth line - Staines in particular opens up all sorts of extra journey opportunities.
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Post by buspete on Mar 30, 2024 22:49:02 GMT
Well it’s not complicated. I am sure Crossrail face more sterner challenges.
It is far easier to convert the trains to dual supply, the putting Overhead lines to Gravesend/Ebbsfleet and cheaper. As Crossrail didn’t make the trains capable of dual supply, then 8 only assume this extention will never happen.
I always found it strange that half the service terminates at Paddington.
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Post by richard on Apr 5, 2024 12:02:41 GMT
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Post by wirewiper on Apr 17, 2024 7:28:09 GMT
Train manufacturer Alsthom is in urgent talks with Transport for London (TfL) and the Government regarding a new order for more Elizabeth Line trains. Alsthom needs an interim order of at least ten trains to keep its production lines in Derby open until orders for HS2 trains are placed in late 2025. If the factory has to be mothballed 1,300 jobs are directly at risk, as well as up to 15,000 jobs in the wider supply train. TfL has already identified a need for four additional Elizabeth Line trains, to extend trains currently terminating at Paddington to Old Oak Common when HS2 opens. However the Elizabeth Line is already the busiest single railway line in the UK and is at near-capacity in peak hours. Extensions have also been mooted from Heathrow Terminal 5 to Staines and Langley. Ordering additional trains now would give TfL the flexibility to increase and extend services in the near future, whilst safeguarding jobs in train manufacturing. TfL has confirmed that it is working with the Department for Transport to secure funding for ten additional 345 units. www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/urgent-talks-to-buy-more-elizabeth-line-trains-71686/
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Post by capitalomnibus on Apr 18, 2024 15:51:56 GMT
Train manufacturer Alsthom is in urgent talks with Transport for London (TfL) and the Government regarding a new order for more Elizabeth Line trains. Alsthom needs an interim order of at least ten trains to keep its production lines in Derby open until orders for HS2 trains are placed in late 2025. If the factory has to be mothballed 1,300 jobs are directly at risk, as well as up to 15,000 jobs in the wider supply train. TfL has already identified a need for four additional Elizabeth Line trains, to extend trains currently terminating at Paddington to Old Oak Common when HS2 opens. However the Elizabeth Line is already the busiest single railway line in the UK and is at near-capacity in peak hours. Extensions have also been mooted from Heathrow Terminal 5 to Staines and Langley. Ordering additional trains now would give TfL the flexibility to increase and extend services in the near future, whilst safeguarding jobs in train manufacturing. TfL has confirmed that it is working with the Department for Transport to secure funding for ten additional 345 units. www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/urgent-talks-to-buy-more-elizabeth-line-trains-71686/I guess this would mean the Shenfield services terminating there
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Post by wirewiper on Apr 18, 2024 17:20:10 GMT
Train manufacturer Alsthom is in urgent talks with Transport for London (TfL) and the Government regarding a new order for more Elizabeth Line trains. Alsthom needs an interim order of at least ten trains to keep its production lines in Derby open until orders for HS2 trains are placed in late 2025. If the factory has to be mothballed 1,300 jobs are directly at risk, as well as up to 15,000 jobs in the wider supply train. TfL has already identified a need for four additional Elizabeth Line trains, to extend trains currently terminating at Paddington to Old Oak Common when HS2 opens. However the Elizabeth Line is already the busiest single railway line in the UK and is at near-capacity in peak hours. Extensions have also been mooted from Heathrow Terminal 5 to Staines and Langley. Ordering additional trains now would give TfL the flexibility to increase and extend services in the near future, whilst safeguarding jobs in train manufacturing. TfL has confirmed that it is working with the Department for Transport to secure funding for ten additional 345 units. www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/urgent-talks-to-buy-more-elizabeth-line-trains-71686/I guess this would mean the Shenfield services terminating there Yes four extra units would allow the current Shenfield-Paddington times to be extended to and from Old Oak Common. However if TfL gets the ten trains it is negotiating, some of these could be extended further to Terminal 5 to increase the service to 4tph.
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