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Post by wirewiper on May 25, 2018 11:07:40 GMT
This post/thread is inspired by a discussion on the "consecutively numbered routes" thread, when someone mentioned about fares on the former Green Line routes in London and someone replied that there are £2 fares on today's Green Line/Reading Buses 702 for journeys between Hammersmith and London Victoria. These can be paid in cash ir using a contactless credit/debit card.
I know that Oxford Tube and Oxford X90 have local fares for travel between Hillingdon Station and Central London. In previous years Oxford Tube has advertised a £5 fare between any two of its London stops on Christmas Day.
I believe that some National Express services have fares for local travel within Greater London - apart from the obvious one, between Heathrow Airport and London Victoria.
Does anyone know of other non-TfL coach and bus services that charge local fares for travel within Greater London? If you have information about the actual fares too that would be great!
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2018 11:47:58 GMT
The 575 route, one journey a day between Harlow and Romford run by Go Ahead. The same vehicle is then used on the school route 804 between Chigwell and Debden. On the 575 oyster cards are acceptable between Passingford Bridge and Romford only on payment of £1.
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Post by kmkcheng on May 25, 2018 11:54:49 GMT
This post/thread is inspired by a discussion on the "consecutively numbered routes" thread, when someone mentioned about fares on the former Green Line routes in London and someone replied that there are £2 fares on today's Green Line/Reading Buses 702 for journeys between Hammersmith and London Victoria. These can be paid in cash ir using a contactless credit/debit card. I know that Oxford Tube and Oxford X90 have local fares for travel between Hillingdon Station and Central London. In previous years Oxford Tube has advertised a £5 fare between any two of its London stops on Christmas Day. I believe that some National Express services have fares for local travel within Greater London - apart from the obvious one, between Heathrow Airport and London Victoria. Does anyone know of other non-TfL coach and bus services that charge local fares for travel within Greater London? If you have information about the actual fares too that would be great! HCT has the 812 which has the £1 flat fare for travel around Islington area. Uno has a £4 London only day ticket for unlimited travel on 614/644 between Barnet and Queensbury. There also should be a single fare as well but it’s not listed on their website I believe Metroline also has a single fare on the 84 between Barnet and New Barnet but it’s not listed on their website Oxford tube currently charges £4.10 between London and Hillingdon National Express charges £2.60 between Golders Green and Victoria |
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Post by PaulH on May 25, 2018 13:43:31 GMT
This post/thread is inspired by a discussion on the "consecutively numbered routes" thread, when someone mentioned about fares on the former Green Line routes in London and someone replied that there are £2 fares on today's Green Line/Reading Buses 702 for journeys between Hammersmith and London Victoria. These can be paid in cash ir using a contactless credit/debit card. I know that Oxford Tube and Oxford X90 have local fares for travel between Hillingdon Station and Central London. In previous years Oxford Tube has advertised a £5 fare between any two of its London stops on Christmas Day. I believe that some National Express services have fares for local travel within Greater London - apart from the obvious one, between Heathrow Airport and London Victoria. Does anyone know of other non-TfL coach and bus services that charge local fares for travel within Greater London? If you have information about the actual fares too that would be great! Metrobus charge £1.50 between Sutton Bus Garage and Banstead M&S which matches the TfL Oyster fare.
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Post by snoggle on May 25, 2018 16:58:04 GMT
There are Oyster match fares on some of the SCC tendered routes that run into Greater London (Kingston / Heathrow Airport) - certainly on the 461 and 715.
I believe there are short distance fares on the NX009 - Victoria - Cambridge service that has multiple pick ups in Gtr London.
I suspect Green Line might offer fares on the 757/758 and 724 for Brent Cross - Victoria and Uxbridge - Heathrow
Not sure if it still applies but the Original Round London Sightseeing feeder routes "T" also offered single cash fares for trips within zone 1. I don't know if RATP have changed this practice or not.
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Post by Lewis J.N. on May 25, 2018 18:29:16 GMT
Ones I can think of:
X90 £4 Hillingdon - London Victoria.
724 £3 Uxbridge - Heathrow.
A40/740 £4.30 Uxbridge - Heathrow (the fact this is so high is probably why it's getting withdrawn next week).
8 Mount Vernon Hosp - Northwood Station - Watford Town Centre, don't know the fares off-hand.
As well as 614/644 already mentioned, I wonder if fares are available on the peak-time 610 extensions to Southgate?
Metrobus comes to mind with the 420 to Sutton - £1.50 single to Banstead or £5.20 single to Redhill from there.
702 £2 London - Hammersmith as mentioned or £9/£5.50 (before / after midday) to Slough as that's still covered by the 81 - in fact the overlap between First Berks / Reading and TFL services is quite interesting here especially since the First Berks reshuffle that means the 7 - and soon the 9 - only runs Slough to Heathrow.
Hallmark offer Oyster Match on the 458 Esher - Kingston and 461 Hampton Court - Kingston for £1.60 but only if you show an Oyster Card. Don't know what the fares are without.
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Post by redexpress on May 25, 2018 20:50:54 GMT
Ones I can think of: X90 £4 Hillingdon - London Victoria. 724 £3 Uxbridge - Heathrow. A40/740 £4.30 Uxbridge - Heathrow (the fact this is so high is probably why it's getting withdrawn next week). 8 Mount Vernon Hosp - Northwood Station - Watford Town Centre, don't know the fares off-hand. As well as 614/644 already mentioned, I wonder if fares are available on the peak-time 610 extensions to Southgate? Metrobus comes to mind with the 420 to Sutton - £1.50 single to Banstead or £5.20 single to Redhill from there. 702 £2 London - Hammersmith as mentioned or £9/£5.50 (before / after midday) to Slough as that's still covered by the 81 - in fact the overlap between First Berks / Reading and TFL services is quite interesting here especially since the First Berks reshuffle that means the 7 - and soon the 9 - only runs Slough to Heathrow. Hallmark offer Oyster Match on the 458 Esher - Kingston and 461 Hampton Court - Kingston for £1.60 but only if you show an Oyster Card. Don't know what the fares are without. Do you mean Enfield for the 610 (and 611)? The timetable doesn't show any journeys to Southgate. There's no mention of any restriction on local travel within London so I assume a fare must be available.
Hallmark have farecharts for their routes here. Without the Oyster Match, Kingston - Esher on the 458 is £3; Kingston - Hampton Court on the 461 is £2.20, and Heathrow - Sunbury on the 555 is £4. So Oyster Match on the 555 is quite a good deal, although the farechart is a bit confusing. The text says Oyster Match is valid as far as Sunbury Cross but the chart itself only shows the Oyster Match fare to Feltham Hill Road.
The Berks 7 is an interesting one, I've used it within Heathrow quite a lot but hardly ever seen anyone pay cash on it. Almost everyone is using subsidised Airport Travelcards (or travelling free within the Heathrow area of course).
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Post by Lewis J.N. on May 25, 2018 23:37:26 GMT
Do you mean Enfield for the 610 (and 611)? The timetable doesn't show any journeys to Southgate. There's no mention of any restriction on local travel within London so I assume a fare must be available. Hallmark have farecharts for their routes here. Without the Oyster Match, Kingston - Esher on the 458 is £3; Kingston - Hampton Court on the 461 is £2.20, and Heathrow - Sunbury on the 555 is £4. So Oyster Match on the 555 is quite a good deal, although the farechart is a bit confusing. The text says Oyster Match is valid as far as Sunbury Cross but the chart itself only shows the Oyster Match fare to Feltham Hill Road. The Berks 7 is an interesting one, I've used it within Heathrow quite a lot but hardly ever seen anyone pay cash on it. Almost everyone is using subsidised Airport Travelcards (or travelling free within the Heathrow area of course).
Yes, sorry, I did mean Enfield (although the Underground station I was thinking of was Oakwood not Southgate; not being from the area I frequently get those two mixed up). I hadn't noticed the Hallmark faretables either so thank you for pointing those out and, yes, they match traditional Surrey-style black & white farecharts with the maze to find the info you're really after. Not sure about the Sunbury anomaly but presuming that's just an error. In fact I've been asked to design some farecharts - does anyone have any recommendations on how to actually get all the information laid out in a neat and intuitive way?I agree on the 7, probably most of the regular passengers are airport workers anyway who would use their pass, although travelling in the daytime I do see a fair few buying tickets. Now that contactless is available on First Berks I reckon that's probably helped. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 7:28:17 GMT
The 575 route, one journey a day between Harlow and Romford run by Go Ahead. The same vehicle is then used on the school route 804 between Chigwell and Debden. On the 575 oyster cards are acceptable between Passingford Bridge and Romford only on payment of £1. As I mentioned the 575, the other day I got on it and asked the driver for the fare to Chase Cross, and she looked perplexed and said ," we don't go there, never heard of it!" I tried reasoning with her, pointing out it's where the 499 turns right when she drives across the crossroads and the 103 terminates there, but I wasn't getting through. When I mentioned the 375 though something clicked and she charged me £1, I gave her £2 coin, she got her purse out of her jacket pocket and gave me change. Many years ago there was a Essex County council run school bus that ran between Chigwell Row and Debden, I can't remember the number, it was a sort of U shaped route, running from Debden via Rolls Park, Chigwell Station, West Hatch school, Woodford Bridge , then left along Manor Rd, Grange Hill, Lambourne Rd and Chigwell Row. I got on that and asked the driver for the fare ,it was packed with school kids, he said ," fare?, don't know mate, what do you think is reasonable?" " £1" I said, he took the pound and trousered it. In fact when I took it it never reached Woodford Bridge despite the timetable saying it did, and numbered tiles up on the stops there, it turned off into Forest Lane to get to Manor Rd and cut out Woodford Bridge entirely. |
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