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Post by wirewiper on Mar 1, 2023 13:44:02 GMT
A special event is being held at Southgate Station on Sunday 12th March, to mark the 90th anniversary of the opening of the Station. Southgate, along with Oakwood, opened with the second stage of the 1930s extension of the Piccadilly Line from Finsbury Park to Cockfosters on 13th March 1933. The Piccadilly Line was also extended westwards from Hammersmith over parts of the District Line. Stations on the new extensions were designed by the architect Charles Holden in modernist and art-deco styles and have contributed to the Piccadilly Line having more Listed stations than any other Underground line - 31 stations served by the Piccadilly Line have Listed Status, and the Piccadilly Line has four of the six stations with Grade II* Listing, including Southgate (the others are Oakwood, Arnos Grove and Sudbury Town). www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/tickets-alert-southgate-tube-station-anniversary-celebrations-60957/
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Post by wirewiper on Mar 13, 2023 9:40:12 GMT
Today (13th March 2023) is the 90th anniversary of the opening of Southgate and Oakwood stations on the northern extension of the Piccadilly Line. The Great Northern, Piccadilly & Brompton Railway opened in 1906 between Hammersmith and Finsbury Park - part of the initial Underground Electric Railways Group portfolio that also included the Bakerloo and what is now the Charing Cross branch of the Northern Line. The Piccadilly Line was actually an amalgamation of three separate schemes that had failed to secure funding, which explains its unusual west-to-north alignment and also the Aldwych Branch, which was part of a proposed Kings Cross to Waterloo link that never got built. The Great Northern Railway was initially opposed to any northward extension from Finsbury Park, but by the 1920s the rapid expansion of suburban London meant that the crowding in and around the station, where passengers spilled out into the road to fight their way onto overcrowded trams, was becoming intolerable. The extension to Cockfosters was approved in 1929, and the first section to Arnos Grove opened in 1932. This included purpose-built tram and bus interchanges at Manor House and Turnpike Lane with subway connections, which were a world away from the chaotic scenes at Finsbury Park. The extension to Southgate and Oakwood - initially called Enfield West and situated in open countryside - followed in March 1933 with the final stretch to Cockfosters opening in July 1933. All the stations north of Manor House were designed by the renowned architect Charles Holden and are Listed - Southgate and Oakwood are two of only six Grade II* Listed stations on the entire Underground network. At the same time, the Piccadilly Line was being extended at the other end over lines that had previously been country branches of the District Railway and many of these stations* were also rebuilt by Holden to accommodate the rapid expansion of suburbia in this area. This largely explains why the Piccadilly Line has more Listed stations (31) than any other line. * North Ealing was not rebuilt and remains largely in its original 1902 condition as built by the District Railway. It too is Listed. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Underground_stations_that_are_listed_buildingslondonist.com/london/transport/how-many-tube-stations-have-listed-status
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Post by snowman on Mar 13, 2023 12:57:42 GMT
Today (13th March 2023) is the 90th anniversary of the opening of Southgate and Oakwood stations on the northern extension of the Piccadilly Line. The Great Northern, Piccadilly & Brompton Railway opened in 1906 between Hammersmith and Finsbury Park - part of the initial Underground Electric Railways Group portfolio that also included the Bakerloo and what is now the Charing Cross branch of the Northern Line. The Piccadilly Line was actually an amalgamation of three separate schemes that had failed to secure funding, which explains its unusual west-to-north alignment and also the Aldwych Branch, which was part of a proposed Kings Cross to Waterloo link that never got built. The Great Northern Railway was initially opposed to any northward extension from Finsbury Park, but by the 1920s the rapid expansion of suburban London meant that the crowding in and around the station, where passengers spilled out into the road to fight their way onto overcrowded trams, was becoming intolerable. The extension to Cockfosters was approved in 1929, and the first section to Arnos Grove opened in 1932. This included purpose-built tram and bus interchanges at Manor House and Turnpike Lane with subway connections, which were a world away from the chaotic scenes at Finsbury Park. The extension to Southgate and Oakwood - initially called Enfield West and situated in open countryside - followed in 1933 with the final stretch to Cockfosters opening in 1934). All the stations north of Manor House were designed by the renowned architect Charles Holden and are Listed - Southgate and Oakwood are two of only six Grade II* Listed stations on the entire Underground network. At the same time, the Piccadilly Line was being extended at the other end over lines that had previously been country branches of the District Railway and many of these stations* were also rebuilt by Holden to accommodate the rapid expansion of suburbia in this area. This largely explains why the Piccadilly Line has more Listed stations (31) than any other line. * West Ealing was not rebuilt and remains largely in its original 1902 condition as built by the District Railway. It too is Listed. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Underground_stations_that_are_listed_buildingslondonist.com/london/transport/how-many-tube-stations-have-listed-statusCouple of corrections : Oakwood was initially known as East Barnet, then was going to be Enfield West, before becoming Oakwood. Cockfosters opened 31st July 1933 Did spend quite a bit of money on these stations, shopfronts with bronze, piers faced with black Belgium marble, Cornish granite below the brickwork etc
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 13, 2023 13:59:51 GMT
Another correction: “West Ealing” should read North Ealing.
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Post by wirewiper on Mar 13, 2023 16:52:42 GMT
Another correction: “West Ealing” should read North Ealing. Thanks - pure slip-up on my part, I've corrected the original.
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Post by wirewiper on Mar 13, 2023 17:06:16 GMT
Today (13th March 2023) is the 90th anniversary of the opening of Southgate and Oakwood stations on the northern extension of the Piccadilly Line. The Great Northern, Piccadilly & Brompton Railway opened in 1906 between Hammersmith and Finsbury Park - part of the initial Underground Electric Railways Group portfolio that also included the Bakerloo and what is now the Charing Cross branch of the Northern Line. The Piccadilly Line was actually an amalgamation of three separate schemes that had failed to secure funding, which explains its unusual west-to-north alignment and also the Aldwych Branch, which was part of a proposed Kings Cross to Waterloo link that never got built. The Great Northern Railway was initially opposed to any northward extension from Finsbury Park, but by the 1920s the rapid expansion of suburban London meant that the crowding in and around the station, where passengers spilled out into the road to fight their way onto overcrowded trams, was becoming intolerable. The extension to Cockfosters was approved in 1929, and the first section to Arnos Grove opened in 1932. This included purpose-built tram and bus interchanges at Manor House and Turnpike Lane with subway connections, which were a world away from the chaotic scenes at Finsbury Park. The extension to Southgate and Oakwood - initially called Enfield West and situated in open countryside - followed in 1933 with the final stretch to Cockfosters opening in 1934). All the stations north of Manor House were designed by the renowned architect Charles Holden and are Listed - Southgate and Oakwood are two of only six Grade II* Listed stations on the entire Underground network. At the same time, the Piccadilly Line was being extended at the other end over lines that had previously been country branches of the District Railway and many of these stations* were also rebuilt by Holden to accommodate the rapid expansion of suburbia in this area. This largely explains why the Piccadilly Line has more Listed stations (31) than any other line. * West Ealing was not rebuilt and remains largely in its original 1902 condition as built by the District Railway. It too is Listed. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Underground_stations_that_are_listed_buildingslondonist.com/london/transport/how-many-tube-stations-have-listed-statusCouple of corrections : Oakwood was initially known as East Barnet, then was going to be Enfield West, before becoming Oakwood. Cockfosters opened 31st July 1933 Did spend quite a bit of money on these stations, shopfronts with bronze, piers faced with black Belgium marble, Cornish granite below the brickwork etc Thank you for the correction - I was so convinced that Cockfosters opened in 1934 that I didn't bother to fact-check! Oakwood was not on the original plans for the Cockfosters extension, but when it was added the Underground Electric Railways Company considered Oakwood, Merryhills and East Barnet before deciding on Enfield West for the opening, then changing it the following year to Enfield West (Oakwood). This misled people heading to shops and offices in Enfield Town, which is two miles away, and following protests from Southgate Urban District Council it was renamed Oakwood in September 1946. The new stations on both extensions of the Piccadilly Line were definitely intended to be grand, more so even than the 1920s designs on the Edgware and Morden extensions of what is now the Northern Line. They were intended to stimulate suburban development, and the open countryside that surrounded much of the area around the stations in 1930 quickly became built-up.
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Post by richard on Apr 21, 2023 22:57:40 GMT
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Post by cardinal on Apr 23, 2023 14:33:42 GMT
Am I imagining it or has the service levels dropped on the Heathrow section ? I’m sure I never used to have to wait up to 10-12 mins on occasions.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Apr 23, 2023 14:51:26 GMT
Scheduled 5min service Northfields-Hatton X (10min T4; 10min T2/3,5)
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Post by Busboy105 on Apr 23, 2023 19:59:39 GMT
Unrelated but how can I change the name of the thread?
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Post by WH241 on Apr 23, 2023 21:24:04 GMT
Unrelated but how can I change the name of the thread? Go into threads created by yourself then select edit for the first post where you will notice you can also edit the title of the thread.
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Post by Busboy105 on Apr 24, 2023 14:22:18 GMT
Unrelated but how can I change the name of the thread? Go into threads created by yourself then select edit for the first post where you will notice you can also edit the title of the thread. Thanks a lot
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Post by northlondon83 on May 19, 2023 15:45:42 GMT
I think that last trains on the core section of the Piccadilly line should run to Uxbridge later. Quite often after 11pm you have to change at Acton Town or Rayner's Lane. What is surprising is that the last train to arrive at Uxbridge is a Piccadilly line (from Acton Town though). The Uxbridge branch of the Piccadilly line receives such a poor service that you might as well terminate all trains at Rayner's Lane. More often than not I have to change at Rayner's Lane for the Metropolitan line
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Post by northlondon83 on May 24, 2023 18:02:51 GMT
I had the worst experience ever on the Piccadilly line. Got on at Covent Garden only to get to South Kensington and my Uxbridge train became a Heathrow train. The train was tediously slow from this point onwards especially between Hammersmith and Acton Town. Then I got on another Piccadilly line train and by North Ealing the Uxbridge train became a Rayner's Lane train. Seriously why is the service this bad? I don't think I'll ever rely on the Piccadilly line to get home from central London. Even walking to Holborn and catching a central line to West Ruislip then walking to Ickenham to do the final leg of my journey might have been quicker.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on May 24, 2023 18:31:33 GMT
I had the worst experience ever on the Piccadilly line. Got on at Covent Garden only to get to South Kensington and my Uxbridge train became a Heathrow train. The train was tediously slow from this point onwards especially between Hammersmith and Acton Town. Then I got on another Piccadilly line train and by North Ealing the Uxbridge train became a Rayner's Lane train. Seriously why is the service this bad? I don't think I'll ever rely on the Piccadilly line to get home from central London. Even walking to Holborn and catching a central line to West Ruislip then walking to Ickenham to do the final leg of my journey might have been quicker. If you were going up the Uxbridge branch I'd have just got the Metropolitan Line.
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