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Post by LondonExplorer316 on Feb 8, 2022 19:20:41 GMT
St Charles Health & Wellbeing Centre (A) deserves a special mention as 4 different secondary schools use that route, including 2 that aren't even on the route, and we know how schoolkids are. Absolute nightmare for a local and contributes to the argument for 316 getting DDs. Not like the drivers don't contribute to these issues by filling up buses until you are blocking the driver's view of the mirror. Only bus you could drive is DEL2612 and any other bus with cameras for mirrors.
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Feb 8, 2022 19:26:49 GMT
There are places in London where people queue, it’s dependent on local culture. I've noticed people regularly queue at George Street in Richmond for stop A (33, 337, 493) but not stop B (all other routes). This could be due to the pavement being narrower at stop A or the fact there are simply more people who use stop B but it's an interesting observation. Interestingly I went there today, and I was there with one other guy (in his late teens) and we stood either side of the bus stop. When the 33 came 4 or so people came over and queued to get on. I didn't join as I was waiting for SEN32.
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Post by greenboy on Feb 8, 2022 19:45:50 GMT
St Charles Health & Wellbeing Centre (A) deserves a special mention as 4 different secondary schools use that route, including 2 that aren't even on the route, and we know how schoolkids are. Absolute nightmare for a local and contributes to the argument for 316 getting DDs. Not like the drivers don't contribute to these issues by filling up buses until you are blocking the driver's view of the mirror. Only bus you could drive is DEL2612 and any other bus with cameras for mirrors. It's not only mirrors, drivers need to have a clear view to their nearside.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Feb 8, 2022 19:49:23 GMT
St Charles Health & Wellbeing Centre (A) deserves a special mention as 4 different secondary schools use that route, including 2 that aren't even on the route, and we know how schoolkids are. Absolute nightmare for a local and contributes to the argument for 316 getting DDs. Not like the drivers don't contribute to these issues by filling up buses until you are blocking the driver's view of the mirror. Only bus you could drive is DEL2612 and any other bus with cameras for mirrors. I think when you start diving down the path of schools using stops not even on route you'll find many stops with far more than just 4 schools. The Western Road stop in Romford alone can have upto 6 secondary schools using that route because of the amount of secondary schools in the area.
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Post by londontravel on Feb 8, 2022 22:31:47 GMT
St Matthews Church bus stop Z is a nightmare even if your not waiting for a bus - because TfL have deemed the southbound Brixton Station stops as unsuitable for social distancing despite their being plenty of room there, the Tulse Hill & Herne Hill bound routes miss the important & busy Brixton Station meaning everyone is forced to either walk to Brixton Police Station or Academy stops which are further away or go to St Matthews Church where it's impossible to social distance due to the narrow change. Hilariously, the northbound Brixton Station stops are located on a narrower pavement than the southbound stops yet everything still stops at the northbound Brixton Station stops. This needs to be changed back to how it was pre pandemic! I agree, it's really frustrating catching a bus from Brixton to home. Was even worse when St Matthews Church (ZA) was closed for the better part of the last year. I do not see the logic in this. They should reinstate the stop outside Iceland, reinstate the Herne Hill/Tulse Hill services and remove the enlarged pavement and change it back to three lanes, having a bus lane for the bus stops so all other vehicles have two lanes to use.
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Post by vjaska on Feb 9, 2022 2:02:21 GMT
I agree, it's really frustrating catching a bus from Brixton to home. Was even worse when St Matthews Church (ZA) was closed for the better part of the last year. I do not see the logic in this. They should reinstate the stop outside Iceland, reinstate the Herne Hill/Tulse Hill services and remove the enlarged pavement and change it back to three lanes, having a bus lane for the bus stops so all other vehicles have two lanes to use. Herne Hill & Tulse Hill services should absolutely be serving the Brixton Station stops again and yes there should be three lanes again but there was actual logic when it came to removing the stop outside Iceland. Before, you would have a parking space sandwiched between three bus stops and the entrance to the market which caused lots of conflicts both to road users and to pedestrians when receiving deliveries. Now you have the parking space outside Iceland and this causes far less conflicts for everyone and on the plus side for us, allows are delivery truck to park closer. It was unfortunate that the 35 & 355 had to move further along but the 3 change allowed all Tulse Hill/Herne Hill routes to serve one stop even if it did mean my interchange from tube to bus was a little longer. Not perfect but there was logic in that change
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Post by Dillon95 on Feb 14, 2022 19:30:10 GMT
Mayplace Road West/Bexleyheath Clock Tower and Bluewater Bus Station are both chaos to get onto the 96 most of the time.
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Post by Trafalgax on Feb 15, 2022 9:29:45 GMT
Camden Town/Camden Road (N) (29,253,274)
Not sure about 274 but 29 and 253 usually leave Camden packed from this stop, although 29s can already be rammed from Warren Street.
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Post by LondonNorthern on Feb 28, 2022 20:28:22 GMT
The 297 stop outside Superdrug on Wembley High Road is absolute hell to board during shopping hours especially when a 297 rolls up I've noticed.
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Post by Busboy105 on Feb 28, 2022 21:13:48 GMT
This is more a thread to list bus stops you could consider hellish in terms of the number of people there, the behaviour, or ones that you would regularly struggle to board a bus at (both past and present).
Here are my nominees:
Basing Way (Towards Brent X on the 143), East Finchley Cemetery (both directions), Ossulton Way (Towards Brent X on the 143)
Archway Station Stop U before the Archway Gyratory Changes (the one with the 4, 17, 41, C11, W5, N41)
Redvers Road (Towards Ilford/Waterloo on the 123/243)
Those are my examples, are there any others that people could come up with? Have chosen to avoid obvious ones such as Shepherds Bush, Brixton, Stratford, Ilford etc but would be interesting to see what ones people conjure up.
Also just as a quick side note, there was a thread created by the late snoggle with a similar name to this however unfortunately it is locked, but obviously his was created about 10 years ago and plenty of examples could've been missed out, as well as new ones popping up, so would be interested to hear what people have to say Funny you mention the Redvers Road bus stop when literally down the road the Wood Green Station stops on the High Road aren't too bad in terms of queues and they can get REALLY busy especially the H Stop
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Post by dlroper on May 20, 2022 15:57:07 GMT
Pretty much any London bus stop due to the total lack of appreciation for any form of queueing etiquette by this wonderful, multicultural, cosmopolitan, f*ck you, "step over their grandmother to be first" population that now exists. Quite often at Richmond station I'll walk to the previous stop to join the H37 in civilised solitude rather than suffer the rude Hounslow dweller scramble. However, Gallions Reach Station eastbound .............. re-located due to the parking for the recently built flats some 200m from the actual station - it's actually CLOSER to the next stop Armada Way - no bloody use whatsoever AND the "shelter" is open to the SW so presents no shelter whatsoever from the prevailing weather - what f88king genius at TfL agreed to that ?? although I suspect it was installed arse-about face.
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Post by Busboy105 on May 20, 2022 16:01:46 GMT
Pretty much any London bus stop due to the total lack of appreciation for any form of queueing etiquette by this wonderful, multicultural, cosmopolitan, f*ck you, "step over their grandmother to be first" population that now exists. However, Gallions Reach Station eastbound .............. re-located due to the parking for the recently built flats some 200m from the actual station - it's actually CLOSER to the next stop Armada Way - no bloody use whatsoever AND the "shelter" is open to the SW so presents no shelter whatsoever from the prevailing weather - what f88king genius at TfL agreed to that ?? although I suspect it was installed arse-about face. Not sure what multicultural has anything to do with that but otherwise very true
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Post by ajw on May 25, 2022 20:11:32 GMT
Pretty much any London bus stop due to the total lack of appreciation for any form of queueing etiquette by this wonderful, multicultural, cosmopolitan, f*ck you, "step over their grandmother to be first" population that now exists. Got myself involved in a bit of an argument on a bus at white city the other day. Got into a 237 at White City bus station, there were just the three of us waiting. One was an older lady. Bus arrives and the other passenger rushed towards the door and near pushed the poor old lady out of the way to get on. The old lady said something to me about it and I agreed with he it just poor manners. Then the women who rushed on started yelling at me that the f’ing bus was empty whats the issue. I said to her the issue is there is a thing called common courtesy and there was just no need to push past the women when she was getting on the bus. She the starts up that she was waiting first so she had the right to board first. I pointed out to her that actually I was the one there first (I missed the previous service by mere seconds) so don’t pull that line. Anyway the women then gets on her phone and starts loudly telling someone the story how rude myself of the old lady were and how the bus was empty. Just no idea. Thankfully by this time we got to the stop outside the overground and the hordes boarded and drowned the silly woman’s moaning down. The old lady and I got off at the same stop and were both bemoaning society these days. (And btw I ain’t going but not that old yet). And speaking of White City bus station someone on the first page mentioned how bad a station it is. I too agree. Why on earth it wasn’t better integrated when the shopping centre was first built is beyond me, or at the least when the extension was built. Coming from Australia bus stations at shopping centres are far better integrated. The route to the platforms at white city is circular and confusing.
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Post by bottomless on May 28, 2022 5:56:11 GMT
Eden Street in Kingston and also John Lewis/Bentall Centre get very busy during the day. Worst stop is the one in Eden Street outside McDonald’s as so many routes serve this stop.
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Post by snowman on May 28, 2022 7:38:32 GMT
Eden Street in Kingston and also John Lewis/Bentall Centre get very busy during the day. Worst stop is the one in Eden Street outside McDonald’s as so many routes serve this stop. That southbound stop in Eden Street is bad because of the 2 sets of traffic lights which preceed it, they bunch up the buses do they arrive in a group
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