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Post by southlondonbus on Apr 20, 2024 13:59:06 GMT
I’m confused how this is a desperate vote grab by Khan when he has an almost 20 point lead ahead of the opposition? You can’t be telling me you actually think Susan Hall has a remote chance of winning the elections? The polls are always remarkably generous for Labour candidates. It's much tighter than the it looks. Personally I think it's great that a politician thinks rolling out better buses is a politically, environmentally and economically sound move. Boris talked the talk on this but didn't quite walk the walk. Yes the headline figures of 49 and 24% are actually once don't knows are taken out. So in this case its actually 49% of 75% which means around 36% of people asked their opinion. In a city like London to be perfectly frank a labour candidate should be winning with 50%+.
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Post by route53 on Apr 20, 2024 15:04:29 GMT
An X53 running from Trafalgar Square to Thamesmead would be great, then you could have the 453 as it is now and have the 53 cut back to E&C as the stopping services. Would be far more useful than yet another route between North Greenwich & Woolwich 😒🙄 I disagree - without significant easing of congestion and/or decent priority through bottlenecks being implemented, there is no point in running routes like the X53. An X53 could serve Woolwich Indoor Market then avoid the town centre to reach Charlton, make it non stop between Blackheath & E&C with only a stop at New Cross Gate, it would work.
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Post by VMH2537 on Apr 20, 2024 16:34:53 GMT
I do seem to notice Chingford doesn't appear to have the Overground roundel next to it meaning there's a possibility the supposed X307 and X97 may instead terminate at perhaps Chingford Mount, Hatch or even Crooked Billet Roundabout.
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Post by southlondon413 on Apr 20, 2024 16:41:26 GMT
I do seem to notice Chingford doesn't appear to have the Overground roundel next to it meaning there's a possibility the supposed X307 and X97 may instead terminate at perhaps Chingford Mount, Hatch or even Crooked Billet Roundabout. I wouldn’t read too much into that. TfL add it for New Malden but the reality is the SL7 stops pretty far from New Malden Station. In fact it stops closer to Cheam Station than New Malden but they don’t add it there.
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Post by tts on Apr 21, 2024 7:32:46 GMT
This is only my opinion but any 'Superloop' route which doesn't actually form a loop (SL4, 6, 8) and any of the proposed express routes shouldn't be branded as Superloop but instead X whatever route.
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Post by Busboy105 on Apr 21, 2024 8:06:45 GMT
This is only my opinion but any 'Superloop' route which doesn't actually form a loop (SL4, 6, 8) and any of the proposed express routes shouldn't be branded as Superloop but instead X whatever route. . In my honest opinion, the SL prefix should have been an X anyway.
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Post by southlondonbus on Apr 21, 2024 8:20:55 GMT
This is only my opinion but any 'Superloop' route which doesn't actually form a loop (SL4, 6, 8) and any of the proposed express routes shouldn't be branded as Superloop but instead X whatever route. . In my honest opinion, the SL prefix should have been an X anyway. I agree. Unless you know what the Superloop is about its doesn't immediately make it clear firstly that its a faster service but also where it goes. I still think an X183 would have told would immediately make it clear this is a fast service along the 183 route in part rather then SL10.
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Post by LK65EBO on Apr 21, 2024 8:24:10 GMT
. In my honest opinion, the SL prefix should have been an X anyway. I agree. Unless you know what the Superloop is about its doesn't immediately make it clear firstly that its a faster service but also where it goes. I still think an X183 would have told would immediately make it clear this is a fast service along the 183 route in part rather then SL10. If anything, I'd have said the X prefix makes it more clear than the SL one.
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Post by wirewiper on Apr 21, 2024 8:29:42 GMT
We did the X prefix discussion to death last year. TfL went with SL and there is no reason why they would change that now.
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Post by greenboy on Apr 21, 2024 8:37:24 GMT
This is only my opinion but any 'Superloop' route which doesn't actually form a loop (SL4, 6, 8) and any of the proposed express routes shouldn't be branded as Superloop but instead X whatever route. It would have made more sense to leave routes like the X68 as they were but they've been 'hijacked' by the mayor for political gain.
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Post by WH241 on Apr 21, 2024 8:53:33 GMT
This is only my opinion but any 'Superloop' route which doesn't actually form a loop (SL4, 6, 8) and any of the proposed express routes shouldn't be branded as Superloop but instead X whatever route. It's the same with the daft branding proposed for the Bakerloop service. I could understand if the proposed service was a long term rail replacement bus but the Bakerloo Line extension is probably decades away (If it even happens). I really am not a fan of how buses have been dragged into politics to gain votes. People have short memories as only a couple of years ago bus routes being cut were being used as a threat for funding.
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Post by WH241 on Apr 21, 2024 8:58:45 GMT
We did the X prefix discussion to death last year. TfL went with SL and there is no reason why they would change that now. True but at the same time the "Loop" is starting to look very messy. That draft map of routes has started to look like a messy tube map. The loop might have been a good idea for the initial routes but as more routes are added its just not really working. X or Express routes seemed more logical to me but perhaps TfL know the services can't really be considered express because of congestion.
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Post by southlondonbus on Apr 21, 2024 9:10:20 GMT
We did the X prefix discussion to death last year. TfL went with SL and there is no reason why they would change that now. True but at the same time the "Loop" is starting to look very messy. That draft map of routes has started to look like a messy tube map. The loop might have been a good idea for the initial routes but as more routes are added its just not really working. X or Express routes seemed more logical to me but perhaps TfL know the services can't really be considered express because of congestion. I know people on here before have said there is a difference between express routes and limited stop routes so maybe TFL thought these don't fit the express route description.
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Post by route53 on Apr 21, 2024 9:34:58 GMT
We did the X prefix discussion to death last year. TfL went with SL and there is no reason why they would change that now. True but at the same time the "Loop" is starting to look very messy. That draft map of routes has started to look like a messy tube map. The loop might have been a good idea for the initial routes but as more routes are added its just not really working. X or Express routes seemed more logical to me but perhaps TfL know the services can't really be considered express because of congestion. Oh this is absolutely political, 2 years ago we were looking potentially losing routes like the 11, 12 & 24 forever, and having the 507 a single decker route reversing across central London as a replacement for the 11, and now we have a superloop express system and are about to gain a second inner loop.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Apr 21, 2024 14:10:13 GMT
We did the X prefix discussion to death last year. TfL went with SL and there is no reason why they would change that now. True but at the same time the "Loop" is starting to look very messy. That draft map of routes has started to look like a messy tube map. The loop might have been a good idea for the initial routes but as more routes are added its just not really working. X or Express routes seemed more logical to me but perhaps TfL know the services can't really be considered express because of congestion. I don't think that has anything to do with it as buses have Express written on them. Superloop is a brand and even if these routes aren't a loop anymore they're associated with the brand. Nothing different to how Emirates have a slogan 'from Dubai to the World' even though they've got a multitude of flights that do not go to Dubai.
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