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Post by LK65EBO on Nov 20, 2023 19:31:22 GMT
Seeing as every operator now has "high spec" what operator do you think has the best one?
Personally really like the colours for RATPs one and the wheelchair area painted in black is a nice touch.
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Post by TB123 on Nov 20, 2023 19:44:26 GMT
Definitely the Abellio one if you ask me. Not just the super comfy seats and the smart colour scheme but the fact they've specified vehicles with nice extra options where applicable like rear destinations, bigger rear window upstairs, glazed front pillars etc. It shows.
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Post by LK65EBO on Nov 20, 2023 19:49:41 GMT
Definitely the Abellio one if you ask me. Not just the super comfy seats and the smart colour scheme but the fact they've specified vehicles with nice extra options where applicable like rear destinations, bigger rear window upstairs, glazed front pillars etc. It shows. Interesting, been on some of the 111s Electroliners and the three 226 E200EVs at WK and found the seats on the 226s EVs (ADL smart seats I think) to be more comfortable than those found on the 111s buses. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Nov 20, 2023 20:01:09 GMT
Abellio and RATP for the choice of seats which genuinely are an upgrade from before. I'm afraid the Go ahead and Metroline are a slight missed opportunity.
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Post by WH241 on Nov 20, 2023 20:14:59 GMT
Going off topic slightly but really wish there was one set standard for the high spec. I mean its madness buses are being delivered in 2023 with smart blinds.
We had have one design for the LTs so it could have been done moving forward with the high spec buses,
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Post by southlondon413 on Nov 20, 2023 20:23:25 GMT
Going off topic slightly but really wish there was one set standard for the high spec. I mean its madness buses are being delivered in 2023 with smart blinds.
We had have one design for the LTs so it could have been done moving forward with the high spec buses,
I’ve long stood for a singular unified bus interior and exterior. Plenty of other cities across the whole planet which also franchise buses manage it. TfL treat buses exactly as they see the users, second rate and second class. |
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Post by SILENCED on Nov 20, 2023 20:40:02 GMT
Going off topic slightly but really wish there was one set standard for the high spec. I mean its madness buses are being delivered in 2023 with smart blinds.
We had have one design for the LTs so it could have been done moving forward with the high spec buses,
I’ve long stood for a singular unified bus interior and exterior. Plenty of other cities across the whole planet which also franchise buses manage it. TfL treat buses exactly as they see the users, second rate and second class. I am critical about a lot of things TfL does, but colour of the seat you sit on, colour of grab rails really matter. To me no, there far better things I would rather TfL worry about. |
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Post by TB123 on Nov 20, 2023 20:47:21 GMT
Going off topic slightly but really wish there was one set standard for the high spec. I mean its madness buses are being delivered in 2023 with smart blinds.
We had have one design for the LTs so it could have been done moving forward with the high spec buses,
Agreed. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Nov 20, 2023 20:53:24 GMT
I’ve long stood for a singular unified bus interior and exterior. Plenty of other cities across the whole planet which also franchise buses manage it. TfL treat buses exactly as they see the users, second rate and second class. I am critical about a lot of things TfL does, but colour of the seat you sit on, colour of grab rails really matter. To me no, there far better things I would rather TfL worry about. I don’t know, it seems pretty important to me. TfL should be the focus of the bus network with only minimal evidence of individual operators. TfL go as far to specify a design for the tram network which is run by First, a design for the DLR run by KeolisAmey and the Overground run by Arriva. Even the underground has groups of matching livery to distinguish between deep level and sub surface/surface. It just makes no sense to me that buses don’t have a uniform look to give the impression it is one operator. |
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Post by twobellstogo on Nov 20, 2023 21:01:34 GMT
I am critical about a lot of things TfL does, but colour of the seat you sit on, colour of grab rails really matter. To me no, there far better things I would rather TfL worry about. I don’t know, it seems pretty important to me. TfL should be the focus of the bus network with only minimal evidence of individual operators. TfL go as far to specify a design for the tram network which is run by First, a design for the DLR run by KeolisAmey and the Overground run by Arriva. Even the underground has groups of matching livery to distinguish between deep level and sub surface/surface. It just makes no sense to me that buses don’t have a uniform look to give the impression it is one operator. If everyone did Abellio interior but with the red based roundel moquette, that’d do me! |
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Post by vjaska on Nov 20, 2023 23:09:37 GMT
The Abellio spec for me is hands down the best, only operator who has actually gone for the glass pillars so far for that extra touch - just wish it was more consistent across the different operators as I've mentioned several times already before.
As for a uniform interior, I do think this should be a thing - my own personal preference would be 1980's LT interior but that would never be done nowadays given how retro it is but something similar to Abellios or the TfL interior that CT Plus, UNO & Sullivans all adopted would be fine
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Post by ADH45258 on Nov 21, 2023 0:34:16 GMT
Seeing as every operator now has "high spec" what operator do you think has the best one? Stagecoach's high spec interior is still a bit unclear, since the new Electroliners are inconsistent with their recent refurbishments (of both the novated and original fleet). Unlike the other operators, Arriva are not using leather headrests, while Metroline haven't introduced wood-effect flooring. So really it's between Abellio, Go Ahead and RATP - depending on your preference of colours and seat type. |
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Post by Dad91 on Nov 21, 2023 6:46:42 GMT
Abellio London and RATP Group London United have best High Spec Go Ahead London have improved new Interior with High Spec
Best TFL Spec
1 Abellio London
2 RATP Group London United
3 Go Ahead London
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Post by greenboy on Nov 21, 2023 7:46:27 GMT
I think TfL should specify the interior, the new buses on the 199 look great in my opinion.
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Post by TB123 on Nov 21, 2023 7:57:36 GMT
I think TfL should specify the interior, the new buses on the 199 look great in my opinion. Agree |
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