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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2009 18:23:46 GMT
Whilst I have to agree that, with the development of Canary Wharf, a link via Lewisham onto the DLR has it merits, this can already be achieved by existing transport infrastructure. I am a tram lover myself, but given the ENORMOUS capital expense, common sense needs to prevail. The suggestions being made for extensions of the Croydon system (such as ALL ROUND LONDON) just make a laughing stock of the idea of tramways in the eyes of those who DO want to see sensible suggestions. As for the 2012 hype, this is for a total of eleven weeks only. One of the tennets made for transport infrastructure upgrades and modifications was what service it would provide to the local community AFTER 2012. Unfortuunately, the Croydon tramlink suggestions are just a stretch too far! What such money really needs to be spent on is the much discussed River Thames bridging point at Beckton to Erith. yes the hype 2012 i hate because whats its going to do bring money not much else Worse still is the extra financial levy on the council tax that every Londoner elligible has had to pay, and will continue to pay, until 2012. Like it or not! Nice one Ken Livingstone! At least I did NOT vote for him!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2009 19:06:38 GMT
yes the hype 2012 i hate because whats its going to do bring money not much else Worse still is the extra financial levy on the council tax that every Londoner elligible has had to pay, and will continue to pay, until 2012. Like it or not! Nice one Ken Livingstone! At least I did NOT vote for him! so you voted for boris? i would
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2009 19:16:40 GMT
Worse still is the extra financial levy on the council tax that every Londoner elligible has had to pay, and will continue to pay, until 2012. Like it or not! Nice one Ken Livingstone! At least I did NOT vote for him! so you voted for boris? i would In view of the publick rollicking I have just had, I shall have to plead the fifth ammendment on that one, in case my 'humour' offends! Or to put it in British wording, 'YOU may think that, I couldn't possibly comment. Time, mehinks, for another six months hibernation!
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Post by john on Jul 16, 2009 19:36:38 GMT
Money that can be reinvested (after initial capital outlay has been paid) in other projects. TBH, i have serious doubts about whether the Olympics really will generate enough revenue to recoup the amount invested on the construction of it, so i doubt the Tramlink will be top of the list afterwards either!
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Post by jrussa on Jul 18, 2009 3:41:50 GMT
Around 90% of the post contents I agree with so far. Ofcourse the Tramlink will never go all the way round London.
I must admit though that the destination proposals implemented back as early as 2002 about Sutton/ Crystal Palace ect are really good proposals, which would provide valuable links.
I only found out last year that the person who does the voice for the Tram is Nicholas Owen. The current BBC/ former ITN newsreader
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2009 9:46:35 GMT
Do you think the Croydon tram will get a good proposal, which would go through, claiming a extension to Lewisham or Bromley? What are your plan proposals? Where should it go after Crystal Palace? Will the Croydon Tram reach all round London? Why? Will the Croydon Tram reach in Zone 1? Why? Will there be a Tram for North London (Enfield, Waltham Cross, Chingford, Lee Valley, Tottenham, Edmonton, Seven Sisters) Since there is not much london underground? What will be the Croydon Tram new name? Why? Who will run the tram? First, Arriva? Who? I really would love to hear, listen and understand your thought about the Croydon Tram! Simple answer is No. The areas you mention in Noth London have tube lines covering a part of the area Enfield has the Piccadilly line as far as Wood Green & Bounds Green etc & Totenham has the Victoria Line There are already good train services running in parallel. So Walthem Cross has the Bishops storford to Liverpool Street Line & the Liverpool Street to Hertford East Line Enfield has the Enfield Town to Liverpool Street & the Morgate to Hertford North Line There is in any case no where to build a tram line. Trams went from London because they were causing traffic jams and were a hazard to pedestrians and other traffic. There is also the problems when accidents occur. The services come to a stop. Other major problems are access to services such as gas, phone, electric drains etc. Trams cannot work in London our streets are to narrow. To many junctions and to much other traffic. It may be possible to develop a few light railways but even that is unlikely. In North London it would have been sensible to put in a light railway using the old abandoned North London Heights abandoned extension say between Finsbury Park & Muswell Hill but so much of it has been lost its probably not possible. Trolley Buses look to be a far more viable option. They cost little more than buses and cause little disruption when being installed. Modern trolley buses can also travel quite a distance on their batteries
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2009 11:41:31 GMT
Money that can be reinvested (after initial capital outlay has been paid) in other projects. TBH, i have serious doubts about whether the Olympics really will generate enough revenue to recoup the amount invested on the construction of it, so i doubt the Tramlink will be top of the list afterwards either! They will not. There is plenty of evidence to support this. Every one of the modern Olympics bar one has run up huge amounts of debt for the host country. For Montreal the Olympics were a financial disaster as the city faced debts for 30 years after the Games had finished.
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