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Post by snoggle on May 14, 2019 9:13:35 GMT
Are there any bus routes or if multiple then best one that sort of go in circle rather from than from point a to b and back? In addition to the R routes already listed then the H9/H10 and H18/19 are circulars but don't allow you to ride across Harrow Bus Station. Also the 138 is a sort of circular with a short hesitation point at Coney Hall. Same thing applies to the 389 and 399 in Barnet as well as the Broadfields loop aspect of the 288. The 291 also has the Woodlands Estate loop. TfL seems to have a particular dislike of circular routes - I suspect because of reliability concerns. They have also reduced in popularity in other towns and cities although Birmingham still has Inner and Outer Circle routes (the 10 and 11).
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Post by vjaska on May 14, 2019 9:43:14 GMT
Are there any bus routes or if multiple then best one that sort of go in circle rather from than from point a to b and back? In addition to the R routes already listed then the H9/H10 and H18/19 are circulars but don't allow you to ride across Harrow Bus Station. Also the 138 is a sort of circular with a short hesitation point at Coney Hall. Same thing applies to the 389 and 399 in Barnet as well as the Broadfields loop aspect of the 288. The 291 also has the Woodlands Estate loop. TfL seems to have a particular dislike of circular routes - I suspect because of reliability concerns. They have also reduced in popularity in other towns and cities although Birmingham still has Inner and Outer Circle routes (the 10 and 11). The R7 & H26 also have circular sections similar to the 138 with a hesitation point at Chelsfield & Sparrow Farm respectively.
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Post by busaholic on May 14, 2019 21:20:58 GMT
In addition to the R routes already listed then the H9/H10 and H18/19 are circulars but don't allow you to ride across Harrow Bus Station. Also the 138 is a sort of circular with a short hesitation point at Coney Hall. Same thing applies to the 389 and 399 in Barnet as well as the Broadfields loop aspect of the 288. The 291 also has the Woodlands Estate loop. TfL seems to have a particular dislike of circular routes - I suspect because of reliability concerns. They have also reduced in popularity in other towns and cities although Birmingham still has Inner and Outer Circle routes (the 10 and 11). The R7 & H26 also have circular sections similar to the 138 with a hesitation point at Chelsfield & Sparrow Farm respectively. Orpington was host to what must have been the most complicated circular route in the Greater London area in LT green (country) bus days, the 471, aspects of which are incorporated into the R routes (and let's not forget that R originally stood for Roundabout.) The basic route was Orpington Station to Orpington Station via Green St Green then alternately via Cudham and Knockholt or Knockholt and Cudham, hourly in each direction, though I think it had become two-hourly sometime before the route's withdrawal. It was worked by mostly small single deckers, but replaced at various stages with larger vehicles. There were various (mostly) peak hour variations, the principal ones being 'shorts' to Green St Green, Country Buses having the monopoly on travel from there direct to Orpington Station, but also some buses going via Court Road(?) to Chelsfield Station and then via the 477 to Orpington, also double deck (RT) workings to Knockholt Pond via Pratts Bottom and Knockholt: double deckers were banned from going via Cudham, also journeys to Dunton Green Garage to/from Orpington in service via either Knockholt or Cudham. All these journeys worked as plain 471s, unusual in itself, and usually (in my limited experience) sported the correct blind for the trip being made! i guess the locals knew their buses, and the route wasn't subject to all the debilitating changes that afflicted many rural areas. I'm pretty sure more than one person high in LT lived in one of the palatial houses en route, so it was secure for a long period.
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Post by rj131 on May 14, 2019 21:40:24 GMT
Not quite sure where to put this but as it’s a general thread I thought this is the best place for it. Just stumbled across a very, er - interesting, video on YouTube. It’s an SEL on the 297 where the lower deck of the bus and the surrounding road is completely flooded and the driver stupidly tries to drive the bus. Anyone from the area or was near at the time know what happened here? Just very intrigued to know. If the video was taken at around the time of upload (July 2018, ie one of the hottest summers on record) then I highly doubt it was a flash flood, I’m banking on a burst water mane. If it was it certainly wasn’t as well publicised as Bow bus garage’s! Oh yeah and for the formalities - NOT my video. youtu.be/_tyXuz1GYoI
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Post by sid on May 14, 2019 22:01:09 GMT
Not quite sure where to put this but as it’s a general thread I thought this is the best place for it. Just stumbled across a very, er - interesting, video on YouTube. It’s an SEL on the 297 where the lower deck of the bus and the surrounding road is completely flooded and the driver stupidly tries to drive the bus. Anyone from the area or was near at the time know what happened here? Just very intrigued to know. If the video was taken at around the time of upload (July 2018, ie one of the hottest summers on record) then I highly doubt it was a flash flood, I’m banking on a burst water mane. If it was it certainly wasn’t as well publicised as Bow bus garage’s! Oh yeah and for the formalities - NOT my video. youtu.be/_tyXuz1GYoII don't see why you accuse the driver of stupidity, it's clearly a flash flood and things can literally change in seconds.
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Post by wirewiper on May 15, 2019 7:53:24 GMT
Are there any bus routes or if multiple then best one that sort of go in circle rather from than from point a to b and back? H2 is almost a complete one-way loop apart from at the Golders Green end. H3 has a loop working at Brim Hill with a short hesitation point but is essentially an out-and-back route.
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Post by redbus on May 15, 2019 22:34:38 GMT
There are a number of London buses with all-over adverts, and I presume the bus operator receives the income from the advertising.
I have two questions :-
1. Is there a limit to the number of buses that can have all over adverts, either in total, by operator, garage or route.
2. Today I saw a bus with an all over advert for - the hopper fare. Would TfL have paid the Operator to have a bus advertising the hopper fare?
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Post by ronnie on May 18, 2019 17:52:50 GMT
Which is the most “over-promised / over-hyped” bus stop? As in the name promised a giant or very important stop but it turns out be the complete opposite?
I vote for Bow Interchange. Name sounds fancy / important (Finsbury Park interchange anyone?) but all it has is a small stop on a side street, served by the D8 and 488. Neither of which will any awards for the top 200 routes in London!
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Post by wirewiper on May 18, 2019 17:59:40 GMT
Which is the most “over-promised / over-hyped” bus stop? As in the name promised a giant or very important stop but it turns out be the complete opposite? I vote for Bow Interchange. Name sounds fancy / important (Finsbury Park interchange anyone?) but all it has is a small stop on a side street, served by the D8 and 488. Neither of which will any awards for the top 200 routes in London! The Interchange referred to at Bow is the road junction, not a public transport interchange.
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Post by ronnie on May 18, 2019 19:11:15 GMT
Which is the most “over-promised / over-hyped” bus stop? As in the name promised a giant or very important stop but it turns out be the complete opposite? I vote for Bow Interchange. Name sounds fancy / important (Finsbury Park interchange anyone?) but all it has is a small stop on a side street, served by the D8 and 488. Neither of which will any awards for the top 200 routes in London! The Interchange referred to at Bow is the road junction, not a public transport interchange. That makes sense
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Post by sid on May 18, 2019 19:51:25 GMT
Which is the most “over-promised / over-hyped” bus stop? As in the name promised a giant or very important stop but it turns out be the complete opposite? I vote for Bow Interchange. Name sounds fancy / important (Finsbury Park interchange anyone?) but all it has is a small stop on a side street, served by the D8 and 488. Neither of which will any awards for the top 200 routes in London! The Interchange referred to at Bow is the road junction, not a public transport interchange. Isn't the road junction known as the Bow Interchange? I often hear it mentioned on radio travel bulletins.
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Post by vjaska on May 18, 2019 20:40:16 GMT
Which is the most “over-promised / over-hyped” bus stop? As in the name promised a giant or very important stop but it turns out be the complete opposite? I vote for Bow Interchange. Name sounds fancy / important (Finsbury Park interchange anyone?) but all it has is a small stop on a side street, served by the D8 and 488. Neither of which will any awards for the top 200 routes in London! The Interchange referred to at Bow is the road junction, not a public transport interchange. Has it always been known as Bow Interchange or was it called Bow Roundabout at one point - I'm probably imagining things but I'm sure it has been referred to that before?
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2019 20:42:46 GMT
The Interchange referred to at Bow is the road junction, not a public transport interchange. Has it always been known as Bow Interchange or was it called Bow Roundabout at one point - I'm probably imagining things but I'm sure it has been referred to that before? Bow Roundabout / Bow Flyover. Bow Interchange is just a recent name to make it sound better than it is.
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Post by richard on May 20, 2019 13:57:17 GMT
What has happened to the Trams on Vehicle Finder its shows them not running since March
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Post by RandomBusesGirl on May 20, 2019 15:22:36 GMT
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