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Metroline
Apr 22, 2019 23:58:02 GMT
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Post by Hassaan on Apr 22, 2019 23:58:02 GMT
I get the impression that most of the 120's batch VWH2266-2284 have been fitted with an Intelligent Speed Assist system. On reaching the 20mph section of Heston Road, the available acceleration gets reduced and the top speed becomes limited to 20. It's happened on way too many buses over the last 2 weeks for it to be a coincidence, Today my bus even braked automatically to bring the speed down on entering the 20 zone, after the driver floored it on leaving the previous stop on the approach to the 20 zone Didn't a poster on here recently say that TfL had switched on the system that transmits the speed limits on all bus routes? I assume the buses are responding to that. Oh yeah I remember seeing a post on that. Something to keep an eye out for on other routes locally that have 20 zones, especially the 111 on the same bit of road once its diversion finishes soon.
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Apr 23, 2019 6:41:34 GMT
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Post by sid on Apr 23, 2019 6:41:34 GMT
Didn't a poster on here recently say that TfL had switched on the system that transmits the speed limits on all bus routes? I assume the buses are responding to that. Another silly"innovation" from tfl Who claim they are Cash strapped, limiting buses will not prevent accidents. When will the son of a bus driver stop?! Glad I no longer drive in London, its just getting worse. I read somewhere that from contracts starting next year new buses will no longer have traditional mirrors but rather internal monitors. I'm not sure I'd call it silly and I don't know whether the mayor has any direct involvement in it, advances in technology make this sort of thing possible. I think internal monitors will be a great improvement once everybody gets used to them, there are so many mishaps involving wing mirrors.
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Post by vjaska on Apr 23, 2019 8:37:58 GMT
Another silly"innovation" from tfl Who claim they are Cash strapped, limiting buses will not prevent accidents. When will the son of a bus driver stop?! Glad I no longer drive in London, its just getting worse. I read somewhere that from contracts starting next year new buses will no longer have traditional mirrors but rather internal monitors. I'm not sure I'd call it silly and I don't know whether the mayor has any direct involvement in it, advances in technology make this sort of thing possible. I think internal monitors will be a great improvement once everybody gets used to them, there are so many mishaps involving wing mirrors. I think he is referring to the speed limit system being installed in buses rather than the mirror less system.
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Post by TP1 on Apr 23, 2019 11:26:26 GMT
Didn't a poster on here recently say that TfL had switched on the system that transmits the speed limits on all bus routes? I assume the buses are responding to that. Another silly"innovation" from tfl Who claim they are Cash strapped, limiting buses will not prevent accidents. When will the son of a bus driver stop?! Glad I no longer drive in London, its just getting worse. I read somewhere that from contracts starting next year new buses will no longer have traditional mirrors but rather internal monitors. As a bus driver (not in London), it seems like a mad concept. I think it's around 87% of our blame worthy collisions are 10mph and under. It's largely pulling in/away from bus stops and traffic. The money should be spent on educating bus drivers and road users about road safety and bus priority. In my opinion that is...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 12:00:44 GMT
A few may also be kept at PB for the 125 extension to Colindale (unless the frequency is reduced). A new bus stop with a pedestrian crossing appeared on the Greyhound Hill where the 125 is supposed to be extended towards Colindale Yes; this is in preparation for the extension due to launch on Monday 6th May.
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Post by shroudoffrost on Apr 23, 2019 12:14:06 GMT
Another silly"innovation" from tfl Who claim they are Cash strapped, limiting buses will not prevent accidents. When will the son of a bus driver stop?! Glad I no longer drive in London, its just getting worse. I read somewhere that from contracts starting next year new buses will no longer have traditional mirrors but rather internal monitors. As a bus driver (not in London), it seems like a mad concept. I think it's around 87% of our blame worthy collisions are 10mph and under. It's largely pulling in/away from bus stops and traffic. The money should be spent on educating bus drivers and road users about road safety and bus priority. In my opinion that is... Things began to go downhill when TFL started to refer to us as "Bus Operators" rather than "Bus Drivers".
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Post by Volvo on Apr 23, 2019 16:57:50 GMT
Another silly"innovation" from tfl Who claim they are Cash strapped, limiting buses will not prevent accidents. When will the son of a bus driver stop?! Glad I no longer drive in London, its just getting worse. I read somewhere that from contracts starting next year new buses will no longer have traditional mirrors but rather internal monitors. As a bus driver (not in London), it seems like a mad concept. I think it's around 87% of our blame worthy collisions are 10mph and under. It's largely pulling in/away from bus stops and traffic. The money should be spent on educating bus drivers and road users about road safety and bus priority. In my opinion that is... I agree about the educating. I think this restricting buses causes problems aswell as alot of other road users think your taking the Mick and get frustrated and just overtake dangerously. I have had this many times over the last week alot of the DLEs on 288/303 they are so slow to move off and get upto speed it's like they don't want to go anywhere so when you indicate to come out of a stop and someone gives you way your trying to go but bus doesn't want to go anywhere so people just overtake. Same can be said when there is a big gap and you pull out the bus is so slow moving off the gap you had is now gone and that's something that annoys other road users aswell. Many of them already don't respect bus drivers and again they think your just taking the Mick by pulling out and moving slow.
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Post by YY13VKP on Apr 23, 2019 17:04:04 GMT
Didn't a poster on here recently say that TfL had switched on the system that transmits the speed limits on all bus routes? I assume the buses are responding to that. I read somewhere that from contracts starting next year new buses will no longer have traditional mirrors but rather internal monitors. This year more like, the E400H MMC's due for Metrobus for route 197 are receiving internal monitors. Not too sure about the 208's MMC's though.
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Post by LT 20181 on Apr 23, 2019 17:09:35 GMT
I read somewhere that from contracts starting next year new buses will no longer have traditional mirrors but rather internal monitors. This year more like, the E400H MMC's due for Metrobus for route 197 are receiving internal monitors. Not too sure about the 208's MMC's though. I have this rather not-so-nice feeling that this "internal monitors" feature won't do too well..
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Apr 23, 2019 17:10:43 GMT
I read somewhere that from contracts starting next year new buses will no longer have traditional mirrors but rather internal monitors. This year more like, the E400H MMC's due for Metrobus for route 197 are receiving internal monitors. Not too sure about the 208's MMC's though. Interesting, I didn't expect TfL to take such a step so soon. I do hope that they prove reliable and that there is a fail safe, can't imagine driving a bus that size without having a view of both sides. On the plus side it'll probably stop people getting knocked out by those bunny ears
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Post by YY13VKP on Apr 23, 2019 17:19:09 GMT
This year more like, the E400H MMC's due for Metrobus for route 197 are receiving internal monitors. Not too sure about the 208's MMC's though. I have this rather not-so-nice feeling that this "internal monitors" feature won't do too well.. The new Enviro400 MMC's that First Glasgow ordered at the end of last year were the first to contain internal monitors as mirrors and they seem to be working fine. Although I can see what you mean if the equipment were to stop working etc. But then if that was the case surely the bus would be subbed immediately if it occurred while in service?
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Post by rif153 on Apr 23, 2019 18:45:35 GMT
This year more like, the E400H MMC's due for Metrobus for route 197 are receiving internal monitors. Not too sure about the 208's MMC's though. can't imagine driving a bus that size without having a view of both sides. On the plus side it'll probably stop people getting knocked out by those bunny ears I can't imagine it either, it seems so strange there will soon be buses in London with no wing mirrors. I remember the first time I saw this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU9vXw2b5g0 video I freaked out. SmartVision is obviously what ADL are calling the use of internal monitors and will be piloted in London the 197's new MMCs but have Wright/MCV/Optare or anyone else also introduced internal monitors?
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Post by rj131 on Apr 23, 2019 18:55:50 GMT
can't imagine driving a bus that size without having a view of both sides. On the plus side it'll probably stop people getting knocked out by those bunny ears I can't imagine it either, it seems so strange there will soon be buses in London with no wing mirrors. I remember the first time I saw this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU9vXw2b5g0 video I freaked out. SmartVision is obviously what ADL are calling the use of internal monitors and will be piloted in London the 197's new MMCs but have Wright/MCV/Optare or anyone else also introduced internal monitors? Will be a nightmare if the monitors break!!!
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Post by Volvo on Apr 23, 2019 20:03:32 GMT
I don't see what's so wrong with external mirrors. We leave in a age where everything is too technology reliant and technology can fail.
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Post by ServerKing on Apr 23, 2019 20:16:44 GMT
This year more like, the E400H MMC's due for Metrobus for route 197 are receiving internal monitors. Not too sure about the 208's MMC's though. Interesting, I didn't expect TfL to take such a step so soon. I do hope that they prove reliable and that there is a fail safe, can't imagine driving a bus that size without having a view of both sides. On the plus side it'll probably stop people getting knocked out by those bunny ears Having been hit by a DLA's mirror upside the head as the bus swung into the stop, it's a welcome change innovations from buses such as LED indicators and reverse parking cameras eventually trickle down to cars. Having had a van mirror kicked off a little too often, it's a welcome change when it reaches other vehicles
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