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Post by ADH45258 on Jul 23, 2019 13:19:26 GMT
Will the Lampton (SG) garage just be an Outstation with the 81s VWs being stored there or a fully operational garage? My guess is that it could be an outstation of AH, though I think it was mentioned that AH may be closing soon with the land being redeveloped, suggesting a smaller replacement site near Kew Bridge Station. The SG garage is currently used for Westbus coach hire, which also runs from a larger base at Metroline's former HZ garage, so perhaps maintenance could be done at HZ?
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Post by sleckdeck on Jul 23, 2019 23:49:51 GMT
Will the Lampton (SG) garage just be an Outstation with the 81s VWs being stored there or a fully operational garage? the 81 is getting VW'S. so sad
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Post by vjaska on Jul 24, 2019 0:04:03 GMT
Will the Lampton (SG) garage just be an Outstation with the 81s VWs being stored there or a fully operational garage? the 81 is getting VW'S. so sad Personally, I'm happy with that - really like Euro V B9TL's in general
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Post by snowman on Jul 24, 2019 7:30:05 GMT
I have worked out that in order to replace all the SELs currently at PA, Metroline would need 27 VMHs, this is because: Route 90 is allocated 5 VWs. Route 297 is allocated 3 VWs. Unless the VWs are also expected to move? But aren’t some of the SELs in a second phase for replacement (when the 20 hydrogen deckers arrive in 2020) Although they would need to avoid ULEZ and the LEBZs including the forthcoming Uxbridge Road LEBZ assuming they won’t be eligible for euroVI upgrades as leaving before October 2020
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Post by rif153 on Jul 24, 2019 9:00:35 GMT
I have worked out that in order to replace all the SELs currently at PA, Metroline would need 27 VMHs, this is because: Route 90 is allocated 5 VWs. Route 297 is allocated 3 VWs. Unless the VWs are also expected to move? But aren’t some of the SELs in a second phase for replacement (when the 20 hydrogen deckers arrive in 2020) Although they would need to avoid ULEZ and the LEBZs including the forthcoming Uxbridge Road LEBZ assuming they won’t be eligible for euroVI upgrades as leaving before October 2020 PA aren't affected by the Uxbridge Road LEBZ though
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Post by ADH45258 on Jul 24, 2019 9:20:51 GMT
I have worked out that in order to replace all the SELs currently at PA, Metroline would need 27 VMHs, this is because: Route 90 is allocated 5 VWs. Route 297 is allocated 3 VWs. Unless the VWs are also expected to move? But aren’t some of the SELs in a second phase for replacement (when the 20 hydrogen deckers arrive in 2020) Although they would need to avoid ULEZ and the LEBZs including the forthcoming Uxbridge Road LEBZ assuming they won’t be eligible for euroVI upgrades as leaving before October 2020 The SELs are non-standard in the fleet and should be gone before the hydrogens arrive. It was confirmed that the 31 and 90 will receive VMHs, which will be available as the electric DDs enter service at PB and HT.
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Post by VWH1414 on Jul 24, 2019 9:33:40 GMT
the 81 is getting VW'S. so sad Personally, I'm happy with that - really like Euro V B9TL's in general I agree, as much as I liked the reign of the TE around Edgware, it has been more interesting now with the 186 and 292 now being VW routes, and the 204 also having strays. Besides for those complaining about it, it adds some variety at Hounslow Bus Station, like people always say they want
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2019 10:26:21 GMT
But aren’t some of the SELs in a second phase for replacement (when the 20 hydrogen deckers arrive in 2020) Although they would need to avoid ULEZ and the LEBZs including the forthcoming Uxbridge Road LEBZ assuming they won’t be eligible for euroVI upgrades as leaving before October 2020 PA aren't affected by the Uxbridge Road LEBZ though I think the 31 just skims the Uxbridge Road LEBZ although some VWs at PA I believe have been upgraded to Euro VI as I saw one on the 297 the other day with a cleaner air sticker
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Post by kmkcheng on Jul 24, 2019 10:42:31 GMT
PA aren't affected by the Uxbridge Road LEBZ though I think the 31 just skims the Uxbridge Road LEBZ although some VWs at PA I believe have been upgraded to Euro VI as I saw one on the 297 the other day with a cleaner air sticker Don’t think the 31 actually needs to have compliant LEBZ buses as I thought only routes that have bus stops in the zone needs them. The 31 immediately turns right into Shepherds Bush station and White City after it enters Uxbridge Road
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Post by rif153 on Jul 24, 2019 10:44:01 GMT
PA aren't affected by the Uxbridge Road LEBZ though I think the 31 just skims the Uxbridge Road LEBZ although some VWs at PA I believe have been upgraded to Euro VI as I saw one on the 297 the other day with a cleaner air sticker Ah yes the 31 does just skim the Uxbridge Road LEBZ, and is the only PA route affeceted by the green corridor.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2019 11:15:18 GMT
Looks like the 13reg TEHs will be heading to G for the 282 after the 266 goes to RATP, happy that Metroline have retained the 282 but its a shame that Abellio have taken another one of Metrolines routes again
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Post by ADH45258 on Jul 24, 2019 12:23:18 GMT
I think the 31 just skims the Uxbridge Road LEBZ although some VWs at PA I believe have been upgraded to Euro VI as I saw one on the 297 the other day with a cleaner air sticker Don’t think the 31 actually needs to have compliant LEBZ buses as I thought only routes that have bus stops in the zone needs them. The 31 immediately turns right into Shepherds Bush station and White City after it enters Uxbridge Road Regardless of if this is true, the spare VMHs are being used as replacements for the non-standard and older SELs. As the 31 originally had VMHs ordered for it at start of contract (but diverted to the 113), it makes more sense to use the VMHs on the 31 than the 297.
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Post by rif153 on Jul 24, 2019 13:22:51 GMT
Looks like the 13reg TEHs will be heading to G for the 282 after the 266 goes to RATP, happy that Metroline have retained the 282 but its a shame that Abellio have taken another one of Metrolines routes again I suspect that the plan may change with VMHs transferring to G instead to share a common fleet with the 607, its of course completely possible G will get TEHs but I see it as more likely that the TEHs will go to a garage that already has them with some VMHs moving to go G
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2019 13:37:47 GMT
Looks like the 13reg TEHs will be heading to G for the 282 after the 266 goes to RATP, happy that Metroline have retained the 282 but its a shame that Abellio have taken another one of Metrolines routes again I suspect that the plan may change with VMHs transferring to G instead to share a common fleet with the 607, its of course completely possible G will get TEHs but I see it as more likely that the TEHs will go to a garage that already has them with some VMHs moving to go G The only garages that have TEHs is W, EW and HT, there are a few spare 61reg TEHs at EW which could move to HT to give the 271 a full TEH allocation, so i don't see which other garages the 13reg TEHs could go, I think the 13reg TEHs will go to G for the 282 as intended as it will need Euro VI compliant vehicles as it enters the Uxbridge Road LEBZ, once the 266 leaves perhaps the TEHs won't immediately transfer and will most likely go for refurb then go to G. The 60reg TEs will most likely stay for the 210, 632 and 643 as there's enough spares which will withdraw the remaining TAs, older TEs and the prototype TEHs
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Post by ADH45258 on Jul 24, 2019 14:43:22 GMT
I suspect that the plan may change with VMHs transferring to G instead to share a common fleet with the 607, its of course completely possible G will get TEHs but I see it as more likely that the TEHs will go to a garage that already has them with some VMHs moving to go G The only garages that have TEHs is W, EW and HT, there are a few spare 61reg TEHs at EW which could move to HT to give the 271 a full TEH allocation, so i don't see which other garages the 13reg TEHs could go, I think the 13reg TEHs will go to G for the 282 as intended as it will need Euro VI compliant vehicles as it enters the Uxbridge Road LEBZ, once the 266 leaves perhaps the TEHs won't immediately transfer and will most likely go for refurb then go to G. The 60reg TEs will most likely stay for the 210, 632 and 643 as there's enough spares which will withdraw the remaining TAs, older TEs and the prototype TEHs I think the 282 will gain TEHs, Metroline do not seem to be attempting to limit the number of types at a garage any more. The 186 was swapped for VWs when moving to HD, but the 204's following transfer to ON kept its TEs. Then there's EW which had been strictly TE & TEH for a long time, until introducing VWs and VMHs.
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