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Post by beaver14uk on Mar 28, 2017 19:04:52 GMT
Why not raise this with your management, I am sure there is good reason for the planned diversion. That is just really pointless for buses terminating at Bromley North. A temporary shuttle bus from Bromley North to Bromley South via the diversion would be a better idea than to send every bus via the diversion. Be better off even diverting services to temporarily terminate at Bromley Common, Crown Lane If the Bromley North buses started from Bromley South the punters wouldnt have far to travel to get their buses, putting them on a massive diversion causes lateness and then the punters cant rely on the service. Low frequency routes will suffer as controllers are unlikely to 'turn' buses because of the low frequency. I will be doing the diversion on Thursday night and i am not going to rush or even bother trying to make the time up.
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Post by snoggle on Mar 28, 2017 19:20:13 GMT
Meanwhile, in a different world of poshies who think they're entitled to everything…… Bus stop closed? Walk, man -_- Furious man blocks double-decker's route for 20 minutes in row over shut bus stop www.standard.co.uk/news/london/furious-man-blockss-doubledeckers-route-for-20-minutes-in-row-over-shut-bus-stop-a3501216.htmlImo Police should've been harsher, but that's just me. In my country he'd definitely be slapped with a fine... “Teach TFL a lesson” - seriously? Over maintaining bus stops? And what does the poor driver have to do with it? But when rundown bus stops have glass smashed, lights broken, timetables missing, and maybe a sinkhole forms in the road and the roof caves in, guess who will run crying first? What's ridiculous with this is that it is very unlikely to be TfL who are doing the work that warranted the closure. It will either be a utility company or the local council making the stop accessible. The latter work has been going on for years across London with stops being closed on a regular basis. The simple answer would be to ask why a temporary stop was not provided - I did this when my local stops were closed and, guess what, the council liaised with TfL and we got temporary stops. Took a bit of web research and a couple of E Mails.
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Post by sid on Mar 28, 2017 19:25:20 GMT
But that's just it, there is no logical reason for such a diversion and management would just say that they are doing what TfL instructed them to do. Why not raise this with your management, I am sure there is good reason for the planned diversion. If the Bromley North buses started from Bromley South the punters wouldnt have far to travel to get their buses, putting them on a massive diversion causes lateness and then the punters cant rely on the service. Low frequency routes will suffer as controllers are unlikely to 'turn' buses because of the low frequency. I will be doing the diversion on Thursday night and i am not going to rush or even bother trying to make the time up.
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Post by rambo on Mar 28, 2017 21:20:13 GMT
One word for him - idiot! If your not happy with a bus stop closure, report it to the relevant body (TfL in this case) rather than making the driver, passengers and motorists lived a misery by standing in the middle of the road. Because bus stops in london are so far apart.............................................. The police were bang out of order-he should of been fined!
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Post by SILENCED on Mar 28, 2017 21:25:20 GMT
One word for him - idiot! If your not happy with a bus stop closure, report it to the relevant body (TfL in this case) rather than making the driver, passengers and motorists lived a misery by standing in the middle of the road. Because bus stops in london are so far apart.............................................. The police were bang out of order-he should of been fined! Rambo ... Add a few cynical emoji's .... Hsd this taken so wrongly the 1st time I read it 😅😃😄😂
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Post by londonbusboy on Mar 28, 2017 21:33:00 GMT
Why not raise this with your management, I am sure there is good reason for the planned diversion. If the Bromley North buses started from Bromley South the punters wouldnt have far to travel to get their buses, putting them on a massive diversion causes lateness and then the punters cant rely on the service. Low frequency routes will suffer as controllers are unlikely to 'turn' buses because of the low frequency. I will be doing the diversion on Thursday night and i am not going to rush or even bother trying to make the time up. I was told 30 min frequency no turns
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Post by redexpress on Mar 29, 2017 1:18:52 GMT
Buses really shouldn't show destinations they won't reach. Odd that Nine Elms, Cringle Street isn't a contracted turn like it is for the 156 and 344 so the 436s don't have it on the blinds - they should show Vauxhall instead. Though I guess now we have the hopper fare, long term curtailments will be seen as less contentious. The hopper fare can't be used as an excuse for everything. People who have already "hopped" onto the curtailed bus, or who were planning to "hop" onto the next bus, will still be financially penalised by a curtailment. Unless a transfer ticket is issued of course - although I'm not sure that these are issued during long-term curtailments.
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Post by mondraker275 on Mar 29, 2017 6:22:20 GMT
Meanwhile, in a different world of poshies who think they're entitled to everything…… Bus stop closed? Walk, man -_- Furious man blocks double-decker's route for 20 minutes in row over shut bus stop www.standard.co.uk/news/london/furious-man-blockss-doubledeckers-route-for-20-minutes-in-row-over-shut-bus-stop-a3501216.htmlImo Police should've been harsher, but that's just me. In my country he'd definitely be slapped with a fine... “Teach TFL a lesson” - seriously? Over maintaining bus stops? And what does the poor driver have to do with it? But when rundown bus stops have glass smashed, lights broken, timetables missing, and maybe a sinkhole forms in the road and the roof caves in, guess who will run crying first? I dont like when bus stops are unnecessarily closed myself, but to waste everybody's time including the police is a bit over the top. He may have difficulties walking but he must have walked to the stop, and could have walked to the next. He certainly had the strength to stop the bus with one hand superhero like!!. I would have respected him more if they police actually had to take him down and arrest him. Hypocrite alert! I have on at least 3 occasions stood in front buses because I was angry with the driver. Send me in for Anger Management!
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Post by sid on Mar 29, 2017 7:18:47 GMT
One word for him - idiot! If your not happy with a bus stop closure, report it to the relevant body (TfL in this case) rather than making the driver, passengers and motorists lived a misery by standing in the middle of the road. Because bus stops in london are so far apart.............................................. The police were bang out of order-he should of been fined! And if he didn't pay the fixed penalty would the CPS have prosecuted him? I very much doubt it.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Mar 29, 2017 16:27:19 GMT
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Post by Nathan on Mar 29, 2017 16:49:43 GMT
"Angry residents criticised Mayor Sadiq Khan after discovering six buses, at least a decade old, were recently moved from Putney High Street to the G1 service in south-west London." And here I thought that non-enthusiasts wouldn't even notice! . At least the article mentioned the route 63 buses being swapped too!
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Post by Hassaan on Mar 29, 2017 17:05:52 GMT
"Angry residents criticised Mayor Sadiq Khan after discovering six buses, at least a decade old, were recently moved from Putney High Street to the G1 service in south-west London." And here I thought that non-enthusiasts wouldn't even notice! . At least the article mentioned the route 63 buses being swapped too! Maybe they read this forum, or another group? Plus being a resident and an enthusiast is not mutually exclusive! Having said that, many people do notice if a different bus than usual turns up. Recent examples of mine are: Primary school kids on the 120 thinking a TA/TLA was new (so tempting to say that it was older than them! ) and a guy being really surprised when a VWH turned up on the 105
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Post by vjaska on Mar 29, 2017 17:24:38 GMT
Was just reading this as well. The best bits were this: "Wandsworth said the G1 went past at least six schools and was close to a further 13 schools & 15 nurseries. The less frequent 424 ran near 11 schools & 11 nurseries, it added" "A Wandsworth council chief accused Transport for London of keeping it "in the dark" over the switch" Not being funny but surely Wandsworth had some idea given Putney High Street is in the Borough of.......Wandsworth and I've believe they've made comments regarding pollution many times?
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Post by sid on Mar 29, 2017 17:42:22 GMT
That's the trouble with such schemes if new hybrids aren't bought in, start nicking them from other routes and sooner or later somebody is going to notice. I'm surprised there hasn't been an outcry from the Peckham area about hybrids being replaced with diesels.
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Post by mondraker275 on Mar 29, 2017 17:50:04 GMT
"Angry residents criticised Mayor Sadiq Khan after discovering six buses, at least a decade old, were recently moved from Putney High Street to the G1 service in south-west London." And here I thought that non-enthusiasts wouldn't even notice! . At least the article mentioned the route 63 buses being swapped too! Maybe they read this forum, or another group? Plus being a resident and an enthusiast is not mutually exclusive! Having said that, many people do notice if a different bus than usual turns up. Recent examples of mine are: Primary school kids on the 120 thinking a TA/TLA was new (so tempting to say that it was older than them! ) and a guy being really surprised when a VWH turned up on the 105 Yeah, they do notice. I was speaking to an elderly friend, and they mentioned the new W11 buses. As she was a resident of Priory Court, I asked her if she knew about the route aleration via Blackhorse... no she did not. Shocker...not. It ticks me off when people attack buses when it comes to pollution. They do not seem to see the greater picture. Yeah, individually, buses are not the cleanest, but per person carried the emissions are little. Also TfL are slowly but surely getting cleaner buses. This is a no issue for me. Seeing the number of schools mentioned near the route, reminded me of the 158 that serves a number of secondary schools in WF and Newham literally outside them or within short walking distance. The G1 seems a close rival. Christmas quiz 2017 question sorted.
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