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Post by wirewiper on Oct 20, 2019 9:12:11 GMT
RATP trying to buy Arriva 😂 The Slough 335 is operated by Redline Given its age (08 reg) and the electronic display, SDE 20203 has clearly been sold on for further service with Redline. At one time the 335 was operated by First out of UX.
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Post by snowman on Oct 20, 2019 9:33:20 GMT
Thanks, I suspected they hadn't left the factory. The way things are going might be next year (if they ever get completed) That said production is said to be restarting imminently, and KMB has placed an order for 200 B8Ls with Wright bodywork. Strange, as KMB placed an order this month (after Wrightbus had gone into administration) for 76 11.3m (80 seat) and 104 12.8m (98 seat) Enviro500s
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2019 9:37:12 GMT
That said production is said to be restarting imminently, and KMB has placed an order for 200 B8Ls with Wright bodywork. Strange, as KMB placed an order this month (after Wrightbus had gone into administration) for 76 11.3m (80 seat) and 104 12.8m (98 seat) Enviro500s We'll have to see. Apparently KMB are said to prefer the G3 to the E500 and are more than happy to go back once the issues were/are done. According to what I've read the name Wright won't be used again.
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Post by thesquirrels on Oct 20, 2019 9:38:53 GMT
The Slough 335 is operated by Redline Given its age (08 reg) and the electronic display, SDE 20203 has clearly been sold on for further service with Redline. At one time the 335 was operated by First out of UX. I saw this turning off the A413 roundabout into Chalfont St. Peter first thing yesterday morning! The 335 featured in the all-London bus map for many years - even the most concise attempt to explain the route structure gave it the longest entry of any London route. I think it is a little simpler now!
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Post by kmkcheng on Oct 20, 2019 9:50:48 GMT
Given its age (08 reg) and the electronic display, SDE 20203 has clearly been sold on for further service with Redline. At one time the 335 was operated by First out of UX. I saw this turning off the A413 roundabout into Chalfont St. Peter first thing yesterday morning! The 335 featured in the all-London bus map for many years - even the most concise attempt to explain the route structure gave it the longest entry of any London route. I think it is a little simpler now! If my memory is correct, I seem to remember it had live garage journeys from UX to both ends of the route
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Post by Nathan on Oct 20, 2019 11:57:36 GMT
Strange, as KMB placed an order this month (after Wrightbus had gone into administration) for 76 11.3m (80 seat) and 104 12.8m (98 seat) Enviro500s We'll have to see. Apparently KMB are said to prefer the G3 to the E500 and are more than happy to go back once the issues were/are done. According to what I've read the name Wright won't be used again. Wright or Wrightbus?
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Post by LK65EBO on Oct 20, 2019 12:09:15 GMT
Strange, as KMB placed an order this month (after Wrightbus had gone into administration) for 76 11.3m (80 seat) and 104 12.8m (98 seat) Enviro500s We'll have to see. Apparently KMB are said to prefer the G3 to the E500 and are more than happy to go back once the issues were/are done. According to what I've read the name Wright won't be used again. Source?
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Post by kmkcheng on Oct 20, 2019 12:21:34 GMT
Strange, as KMB placed an order this month (after Wrightbus had gone into administration) for 76 11.3m (80 seat) and 104 12.8m (98 seat) Enviro500s We'll have to see. Apparently KMB are said to prefer the G3 to the E500 and are more than happy to go back once the issues were/are done. According to what I've read the name Wright won't be used again. I had just come back from Hong Kong and KMB certainly starting to have a large batch of the G3 B8Ls. They are in red as well so it does feel like seeing London buses on the streets of HK
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Post by vjaska on Oct 20, 2019 12:42:26 GMT
We'll have to see. Apparently KMB are said to prefer the G3 to the E500 and are more than happy to go back once the issues were/are done. According to what I've read the name Wright won't be used again. Source? TBF, he did say, "we'll have to wait & see" and use the word "apparently" not to mention saying, "according to what I've read"
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2019 13:57:15 GMT
We'll have to see. Apparently KMB are said to prefer the G3 to the E500 and are more than happy to go back once the issues were/are done. According to what I've read the name Wright won't be used again. Source? I'm not willing to post the source on here if that's what your asking, it's on a closed group, I'm not making it up if that is also what you're asking. Oh yeah if you read the post I did say apparently, which probably insinuates that its not clear/certain or things may become clearer in future.
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Post by rif153 on Oct 20, 2019 16:44:16 GMT
SN60BYT was broken down by Twickenham Stadium this afternoon Isn’t that the one that’s been fire damaged and consequently off the road for over a year - ADE45021? It is fire damaged but its an ADH not an ADE
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Post by rif153 on Oct 20, 2019 16:47:05 GMT
This morning the tracking issues on the E3 cropped up as LVF was showing only eight buses tracking (Sunday PVR is 16) but it looks to have been ironed out now as more buses are showing on LVF
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Post by redbus on Oct 20, 2019 17:34:17 GMT
S is also not exactly a million miles away from Victoria. C1 would do dead runs from Victoria to S Exactly, its essentially the TL situation flipped on its head.
This is exactly why GAL (SW) whilst unlikely. can't be completely ruled out for the 139 in my opinion, the argument that SW is nowhere near Golders Green doesn't hold up when BT is nowhere near Waterloo, again its just turned the other way round.
I think it will be a tough, interesting battle for the forthcoming 139 contract? For my money RATP is the front runner, having the incumbent advantage, followed by Metroline. Other possible Operators could include TT from X (changeover at Rossmore Road, similar to bus 13), and as you say GAL from SW. SW changeover could easily be at Waterloo, a short trip on the Northern line.
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Post by george on Oct 20, 2019 17:36:08 GMT
Exactly, its essentially the TL situation flipped on its head.
This is exactly why GAL (SW) whilst unlikely. can't be completely ruled out for the 139 in my opinion, the argument that SW is nowhere near Golders Green doesn't hold up when BT is nowhere near Waterloo, again its just turned the other way round.
I think it will be a tough, interesting battle for the forthcoming 139 contract? For my money RATP is the front runner, having the incumbent advantage, followed by Metroline. Other possible Operators could include TT from X (changeover at Rossmore Road, similar to bus 13), and as you say GAL from SW. SW changeover could easily be at Waterloo, a short trip on the Northern line. I know some on here are getting tired hearing all about the 23 and 139 but really looking forward to seeing those two awards.
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Post by VWH1414 on Oct 20, 2019 17:52:29 GMT
Exactly, its essentially the TL situation flipped on its head.
This is exactly why GAL (SW) whilst unlikely. can't be completely ruled out for the 139 in my opinion, the argument that SW is nowhere near Golders Green doesn't hold up when BT is nowhere near Waterloo, again its just turned the other way round.
I think it will be a tough, interesting battle for the forthcoming 139 contract? For my money RATP is the front runner, having the incumbent advantage, followed by Metroline. Other possible Operators could include TT from X (changeover at Rossmore Road, similar to bus 13), and as you say GAL from SW. SW changeover could easily be at Waterloo, a short trip on the Northern line. I think I've finally made my mind up with the prediction on these two, and I have a feeling it may go something like this: 23 - RATP 139 - Metroline My reasoning: 23 - V is close to the line of route, and also drivers can use the District Line a few stops from Stamford Brook to Hammersmith - would also make up for the loss of the 10. If not then my second bet is a TT retain with existing vehicles. 139 - W ran the route for a long time and is closer mileage wise then BT by around 6 miles, as for drivers getting to Golders Green they could probably revert back to whatever they were doing up until 2017. If not then my second guess is a RATP retain with existing vehicles. Overall I know this has been speculated a lot and I know time will tell, but this is my final prediction anyway. Either way I think the bidders will be: 23 - RATP (V), Tower Transit (X), Metroline (WJ), Battersea (QB) (Space dependant) and Go Ahead (SW) (Long shot) 139 - RATP (BT), Tower Transit (X), Metroline (W), Go Ahead (SW) In before a unexpected bidder comes in and scoops them up
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