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Post by southlondon413 on May 2, 2024 17:47:33 GMT
The 452 PVR is lower than the 28s so will be around 3 spares after this, so it is entirely possible that the 414 could see a small part allocation, there have been OME workings on the 414 so would make sense if they put the remaining 3 on the 414. I’d expect any spares to move to the 295 releasing additional BCE to FW for upcoming PVR increases.
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Post by southlondonbus on May 2, 2024 18:30:05 GMT
The 452 PVR is lower than the 28s so will be around 3 spares after this, so it is entirely possible that the 414 could see a small part allocation, there have been OME workings on the 414 so would make sense if they put the remaining 3 on the 414. I’d expect any spares to move to the 295 releasing additional BCE to FW for upcoming PVR increases. I agree. The 65 is likely to need more if the Superloop expansion doesn't go away straight away.
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Post by Dad91 on May 3, 2024 4:18:46 GMT
I’d expect any spares to move to the 295 releasing additional BCE to FW for upcoming PVR increases. I agree. The 65 is likely to need more if the Superloop expansion doesn't go away straight away. 49 and 125 due to be announced tender both routes could be lost. BCEs could be available New 65 Superloop. I highly believe 125 be lost BCEs be available
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Post by YX10FFN on May 3, 2024 19:50:26 GMT
The 28 ends it's rebirth at X tonight. The final bus will be running number X 710, with the 0050 departure from Kensal Rise. The first N28 with Metroline this evening will be the 0045 departure from Camden Town. Those buses will probably run quite close to eachother!
Currently 710 is being worked by OME46006 YJ70EVH. But the run number comes back out just for this last trip so is likely to be subbed for something else. Would be nice if it was a VDW given their history on the 28.
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Post by abellion on May 3, 2024 20:54:24 GMT
The 28 ends it's rebirth at X tonight. The final bus will be running number X 710, with the 0050 departure from Kensal Rise. The first N28 with Metroline this evening will be the 0045 departure from Camden Town. Those buses will probably run quite close to eachother! Currently 710 is being worked by OME46006 YJ70EVH. But the run number comes back out just for this last trip so is likely to be subbed for something else. Would be nice if it was a VDW given their history on the 28. I'm sad that the 28 is leaving its long-term home of X for good but excited for the VWs, as you say the B9TLs do have history on the route, although IIRC none of the VDWs were the 28's VNs - happy to be corrected!
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Post by YX10FFN on May 3, 2024 21:18:23 GMT
The 28 ends it's rebirth at X tonight. The final bus will be running number X 710, with the 0050 departure from Kensal Rise. The first N28 with Metroline this evening will be the 0045 departure from Camden Town. Those buses will probably run quite close to eachother! Currently 710 is being worked by OME46006 YJ70EVH. But the run number comes back out just for this last trip so is likely to be subbed for something else. Would be nice if it was a VDW given their history on the 28. I'm sad that the 28 is leaving its long-term home of X for good but excited for the VWs, as you say the B9TLs do have history on the route, although IIRC none of the VDWs were the 28's VNs - happy to be corrected! They weren't allocated to the 28 but have run on the 28 since they moved over for the 452 in 2018.
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Post by BK15AZR on May 3, 2024 22:26:18 GMT
I'm sad that the 28 is leaving its long-term home of X for good but excited for the VWs, as you say the B9TLs do have history on the route, although IIRC none of the VDWs were the 28's VNs - happy to be corrected! They weren't allocated to the 28 but have run on the 28 since they moved over for the 452 in 2018. Just a pity that the VDWs left at X are from the batch based at LI before, while those native X ones still in service are now with Stagecoach at LI!
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Post by YX10FFN on May 3, 2024 23:58:20 GMT
Goodness. OME46012 left Kensal Rise 20 minutes late, the 0038 departure didn't run and the last 0050 departure hasn't appeared. And the two last departures from Wandsworth are both very late and bunched. Going out with a bang!
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2024 3:36:08 GMT
Goodness. OME46012 left Kensal Rise 20 minutes late, the 0038 departure didn't run and the last 0050 departure hasn't appeared. And the two last departures from Wandsworth are both very late and bunched. Going out with a bang! OME46012 left 7 minutes late and finished 7 late, it was the 0038 departure. OME46023 was the 0050 departure but started from X at 0109.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on May 4, 2024 3:50:24 GMT
Been using route 49 a lot recently, the service is an absolute mess. Nearly every route 49 bus was terminating early at Battersea Bridge or Battersea, Latchmere Road yesterday. Even right now, there's curtailments galore on the route. There are huge gaps in service. Now, I understand there's some roadworks along the route but route C1 another RATP route from the same garage as route 49 and which goes through similar areas is operated better. All the more reason why route 49 should be reawarded to Transport UK.
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Post by WH241 on May 4, 2024 22:18:49 GMT
Not seen anything on here today regarding the OMEs off the 28? Looking on LVF they don’t seem to have moved to another route?
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Post by fortheloveofbuses on May 5, 2024 18:06:26 GMT
The 452 PVR is lower than the 28s so will be around 3 spares after this, so it is entirely possible that the 414 could see a small part allocation, there have been OME workings on the 414 so would make sense if they put the remaining 3 on the 414. I speculate that they will probably fully allocate the OMEs to route 414 while the remaining will be used to replace the 452's VDWs. It would let RTP get rid of the old vehicles they have like the VDWs and ADHs that are close to reaching their 15 year old limit. Alternatively, they could redraw their allocation where maybe route 414 would use VMHs, WHs, and OMEs (In small amounts like you referred to), while the 452 would get fully allocated with OMEs instead.
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Post by redbus on May 5, 2024 18:42:57 GMT
The 452 PVR is lower than the 28s so will be around 3 spares after this, so it is entirely possible that the 414 could see a small part allocation, there have been OME workings on the 414 so would make sense if they put the remaining 3 on the 414. I speculate that they will probably fully allocate the OMEs to route 414 while the remaining will be used to replace the 452's VDWs. It would let RTP get rid of the old vehicles they have like the VDWs and ADHs that are close to reaching their 15 year old limit. Alternatively, they could redraw their allocation where maybe route 414 would use VMHs, WHs, and OMEs (In small amounts like you referred to), while the 452 would get fully allocated with OMEs instead. I think it all depends on RATPs strategy. Putting the OMEs on the 28 didn't exactly help RATP retain the route, instead it went to Metroline with diesels, so they may choose to bid on the 414 with the existing hybrids. That might make the bid cheaper and help retain the route. Yes, the ADHs will be oldish, but they were given the green light for 7 years in 2020 for the current 414 contract, and the new upcoming tender is only likely to be for three years. The extra OMEs can arguably always go on the 13, though that may be subject to similar considerations if the the break clause on it is invoked. Choices, choices!
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Post by southlondonbus on May 5, 2024 19:00:09 GMT
I speculate that they will probably fully allocate the OMEs to route 414 while the remaining will be used to replace the 452's VDWs. It would let RTP get rid of the old vehicles they have like the VDWs and ADHs that are close to reaching their 15 year old limit. Alternatively, they could redraw their allocation where maybe route 414 would use VMHs, WHs, and OMEs (In small amounts like you referred to), while the 452 would get fully allocated with OMEs instead. I think it all depends on RATPs strategy. Putting the OMEs on the 28 didn't exactly help RATP retain the route, instead it went to Metroline with diesels, so they may choose to bid on the 414 with the existing hybrids. That might make the bid cheaper and help retain the route. Yes, the ADHs will be oldish, but they were given the green light for 7 years in 2020 for the current 414 contract, and the new upcoming tender is only likely to be for three years. The extra OMEs can arguably always go on the 13, though that may be subject to similar considerations if the the break clause on it is invoked. Choices, choices! My money would still be a retain for 3 years with the ADHs with the 452 using the OMEs for a good shot at the retention.
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Post by ADH45258 on May 5, 2024 19:10:36 GMT
I speculate that they will probably fully allocate the OMEs to route 414 while the remaining will be used to replace the 452's VDWs. It would let RTP get rid of the old vehicles they have like the VDWs and ADHs that are close to reaching their 15 year old limit. Alternatively, they could redraw their allocation where maybe route 414 would use VMHs, WHs, and OMEs (In small amounts like you referred to), while the 452 would get fully allocated with OMEs instead. I think it all depends on RATPs strategy. Putting the OMEs on the 28 didn't exactly help RATP retain the route, instead it went to Metroline with diesels, so they may choose to bid on the 414 with the existing hybrids. That might make the bid cheaper and help retain the route. Yes, the ADHs will be oldish, but they were given the green light for 7 years in 2020 for the current 414 contract, and the new upcoming tender is only likely to be for three years. The extra OMEs can arguably always go on the 13, though that may be subject to similar considerations if the the break clause on it is invoked. Choices, choices! I wouldn't be surprised if they just allocate them to the 295, then release the BCEs elsewhere as required. A small number for PVR increases at FW, and the rest maybe for upcoming tender awards?
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