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Post by vjaska on Dec 9, 2019 10:49:47 GMT
RATP have been getting the VOR 60 reg ADHs back in service quite quickly: ADH45005 has returned from being VOR since August. ADH45021 has returned from being Fire Damaged last year. ADH45011 was last seen on Halloween so should imagine this is a VOR bus. ADH45007 & ADH45019 have not been seen since the 5th December so hopefully these are just small fixes. Are E3 refurbs complete or are there some yet to be refurbished? What is the PVR of the E3? Is it 18 or 20? E3 PVR is 20 with 2 spares.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 12:46:05 GMT
Incredible if that’s the case. The 216 is overloaded in the mornings especially. Was thinking only earlier this week that surely it’s only a matter of time before it’s double decked. It has been reported that double deckers are now banned from the 216 for some reason? Thankfully the DLE’s are back on the 216 today.
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Post by Volvo on Dec 9, 2019 13:00:56 GMT
There is a notice in the garage stating that the 326 is getting a mix of new buses and buses displaced from the 391. The new buses I really am not looking forward to that slow jerky voith rubbish, with camera mirrors and ISA.
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Post by Gary on Dec 9, 2019 13:08:16 GMT
There is a notice in the garage stating that the 326 is getting a mix of new buses and buses displaced from the 391. The new buses I really am not looking forward to that slow jerky voith rubbish, with camera mirrors and ISA. What are the 11-plates like? Are they in decent condition? I assume they will replace older buses.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 13:33:15 GMT
There is a notice in the garage stating that the 326 is getting a mix of new buses and buses displaced from the 391. The new buses I really am not looking forward to that slow jerky voith rubbish, with camera mirrors and ISA. What are the 11-plates like? Are they in decent condition? I assume they will replace older buses. I've seen them in Brent Cross, they're just dirty especially the 58reg DEs, they just look horrible
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Post by Volvo on Dec 9, 2019 13:45:06 GMT
What are the 11-plates like? Are they in decent condition? I assume they will replace older buses. I've seen them in Brent Cross, they're just dirty especially the 58reg DEs, they just look horrible I believe he meant mechanically.
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Post by Volvo on Dec 9, 2019 13:46:07 GMT
There is a notice in the garage stating that the 326 is getting a mix of new buses and buses displaced from the 391. The new buses I really am not looking forward to that slow jerky voith rubbish, with camera mirrors and ISA. What are the 11-plates like? Are they in decent condition? I assume they will replace older buses. Yes they are pretty good tbh with about 5 of them absolute rockets though two of those 5 had a off day last week. DE14 is the only good 58reg.
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Post by E279 on Dec 9, 2019 13:50:33 GMT
There is a notice in the garage stating that the 326 is getting a mix of new buses and buses displaced from the 391. The new buses I really am not looking forward to that slow jerky voith rubbish, with camera mirrors and ISA. I guess your getting the ex 272 buses early. The ones released from the 391.
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Post by rj131 on Dec 9, 2019 14:11:16 GMT
There is a notice in the garage stating that the 326 is getting a mix of new buses and buses displaced from the 391. The new buses I really am not looking forward to that slow jerky voith rubbish, with camera mirrors and ISA. New buses as in brand new? Or is it referring to the DMEs as the ‘new’ buses, which they are I guess only entering service this year. If it is brand new then will they be electric?! Or will TfL make an exception and allow diesels buses to be ordered as it’ll only be a part allocation and the award actually specified ‘existing’ buses.
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Post by snowman on Dec 9, 2019 14:25:46 GMT
There is a notice in the garage stating that the 326 is getting a mix of new buses and buses displaced from the 391. The new buses I really am not looking forward to that slow jerky voith rubbish, with camera mirrors and ISA. New buses as in brand new? Or is it referring to the DMEs as the ‘new’ buses, which they are I guess only entering service this year. If it is brand new then will they be electric?! Or will TfL make an exception and allow diesels buses to be ordered as it’ll only be a part allocation and the award actually specified ‘existing’ buses. I suspect it is the DMEs (that were on 272, but have been replaced by DLEs from 391) DME 30373-30381 (9 buses) As the 326 has PVR of 15 and needs 17 buses, the extra 8 are probably new My guess is TfL have accepted more diesel buses as it makes no sense to have a half diesel, half electric route. Apart from the small numbers of trial electric buses forming part allocations, never been a mixed diesel and electric route I am taking a punt that therefore a combined order has been placed for 8 more DMEs and probably about 14 SDEs for K1 There is also a possibility 3 or 4 more DXEs (for H37) could also arrive, as this would release enough DLEs to replace remaining versa at Epsom Not sure about extra DXEs, if they can find enough DLEs to replace the versa (maybe 30026 and some others)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 16:43:34 GMT
New buses as in brand new? Or is it referring to the DMEs as the ‘new’ buses, which they are I guess only entering service this year. If it is brand new then will they be electric?! Or will TfL make an exception and allow diesels buses to be ordered as it’ll only be a part allocation and the award actually specified ‘existing’ buses. I suspect it is the DMEs (that were on 272, but have been replaced by DLEs from 391) DME 30373-30381 (9 buses) As the 326 has PVR of 15 and needs 17 buses, the extra 8 are probably new My guess is TfL have accepted more diesel buses as it makes no sense to have a half diesel, half electric route. Apart from the small numbers of trial electric buses forming part allocations, never been a mixed diesel and electric route I am taking a punt that therefore a combined order has been placed for 8 more DMEs and probably about 14 SDEs for K1 There is also a possibility 3 or 4 more DXEs (for H37) could also arrive, as this would release enough DLEs to replace remaining versa at Epsom Not sure about extra DXEs, if they can find enough DLEs to replace the versa (maybe 30026 and some others) I’m wondering where the DME’s will go in the meantime ? Epsom will need an extra bus on the 404 soon. Also, the 413 will need more buses if it gets an extension to Belmont over the S4.
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Post by E279 on Dec 9, 2019 16:57:47 GMT
I suspect it is the DMEs (that were on 272, but have been replaced by DLEs from 391) DME 30373-30381 (9 buses) As the 326 has PVR of 15 and needs 17 buses, the extra 8 are probably new My guess is TfL have accepted more diesel buses as it makes no sense to have a half diesel, half electric route. Apart from the small numbers of trial electric buses forming part allocations, never been a mixed diesel and electric route I am taking a punt that therefore a combined order has been placed for 8 more DMEs and probably about 14 SDEs for K1 There is also a possibility 3 or 4 more DXEs (for H37) could also arrive, as this would release enough DLEs to replace remaining versa at Epsom Not sure about extra DXEs, if they can find enough DLEs to replace the versa (maybe 30026 and some others) I’m wondering where the DME’s will go in the meantime ? Epsom will need an extra bus on the 404 soon. Also, the 413 will need more buses if it gets an extension to Belmont over the S4. There’s nothing stopping them going straight to the 326 as the 272s buses make up most of the allocation. Only 7 will need to be ordered.
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Post by vjaska on Dec 9, 2019 18:28:51 GMT
I suspect it is the DMEs (that were on 272, but have been replaced by DLEs from 391) DME 30373-30381 (9 buses) As the 326 has PVR of 15 and needs 17 buses, the extra 8 are probably new My guess is TfL have accepted more diesel buses as it makes no sense to have a half diesel, half electric route. Apart from the small numbers of trial electric buses forming part allocations, never been a mixed diesel and electric route I am taking a punt that therefore a combined order has been placed for 8 more DMEs and probably about 14 SDEs for K1 There is also a possibility 3 or 4 more DXEs (for H37) could also arrive, as this would release enough DLEs to replace remaining versa at Epsom Not sure about extra DXEs, if they can find enough DLEs to replace the versa (maybe 30026 and some others) I’m wondering where the DME’s will go in the meantime ? Epsom will need an extra bus on the 404 soon. Also, the 413 will need more buses if it gets an extension to Belmont over the S4. More likely one of the existing SDE’s at EB will be used as there is a slight surplus IIRC as a DME would be too long for the 404. The 413 could use some though.
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Post by southlondonbus on Dec 9, 2019 18:34:33 GMT
If the 413 extends to Belmont then it may need a new fleet as I'm not sure the 10.2m MECs would get round the route.
Also I think it's extending via the S3 and not S4.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 19:11:02 GMT
If the 413 extends to Belmont then it may need a new fleet as I'm not sure the 10.2m MECs would get round the route. Also I think it's extending via the S3 and not S4. Ah, so the S3 gets a pvr cut...makes sense. Personally think the S3 should extend to Tolworth.
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