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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 2, 2024 7:44:27 GMT
Not sure AV is viable in its current form so I doubt the 419 will move out unless there is a major reallocation or garage closure in plan. Due to limited capacity at Abellio and Metroline nearby, RATP probably have a good chance of retaining the Hounslow area routes that are due, but I'm not sure there's much they could bid for to gain - there's the 482 and H28, and perhaps the 285 or SL7 later on. But RATP probably don't need to have both AV and WK. Really I think it might have been a better decision to electrify AV for the 235 rather than WK (or even run it from FW). WK is smaller than AV and not as well located, but harder to justify any sort of closure or mothballing now that it is wired up. WK had already been reduced to an outstation after some losses, but the closure of EB meant that space was needed again - though they have since lost more routes. Regarding the 419 though, I think it could still move to FW or V if there is a significant saving over remaing at AV. If anything, I think that with RP being on a limited time lease, spare space would be kept to reallocate RP routes even if indirectly, with AV & WK remaining open for the foreseeable future. But yes, as WK had more of an outstation feel compared to AV, it might have seemed more logical to electrify AV first and allocate route 235 there.
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Post by Volvo on Apr 2, 2024 7:55:43 GMT
The DDEs originally came for the take up of the 226 then it was deemed they would stay for the 326 allocation which I thought was ridiculous because they are too small. So now the plan is the 326 keeps DE & DME and the DDEs go to the 395. Yes, I saw DDEs on route 395 alongside BMEs (the latter I reckon being Sunday/Bank Holiday spares) and DMEs on route 326 yesterday. I cannot place what route the DDEs were built for in the first place. I should check your fleetlist Vjaska as you kindly add original reason for vehicles being built. The DDEs were originally for the 470s.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 2, 2024 11:42:39 GMT
Yes, I saw DDEs on route 395 alongside BMEs (the latter I reckon being Sunday/Bank Holiday spares) and DMEs on route 326 yesterday. I cannot place what route the DDEs were built for in the first place. I should check your fleetlist Vjaska as you kindly add original reason for vehicles being built. The DDEs were originally for the 470s. Thanks for letting me know. I reckon on riding one on an Ealing/Greenford/Wembley trip next year. I was not expecting to locate or ride a VHR yesterday. Although not my favourite buses, they are distinctive and still better than ex-Tower Transit frogfaces. When riding LTs I like exiting at the rear. By way of an embarrassing true story, when I got up from my seat with a view to getting off, I did momentarily look back then realise that, being a VHR not an LT, there was of course no rear staircase or exit.
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Post by Volvo on Apr 2, 2024 13:33:07 GMT
The DDEs were originally for the 470s. Thanks for letting me know. I reckon on riding one on an Ealing/Greenford/Wembley trip next year. I was not expecting to locate or ride a VHR yesterday. Although not my favourite buses, they are distinctive and still better than ex-Tower Transit frogfaces. When riding LTs I like exiting at the rear. By way of an embarrassing true story, when I got up from my seat with a view to getting off, I did momentarily look back then realise that, being a VHR not an LT, there was of course no rear staircase or exit. The ex TT VHs are atleast better to look and and has much better visibility for the interior and exterior as nothing blocks the exterior mirrors and the lighting on the interior means you are not staring at darkness when trying to see passemg3rs getting off. Absolutely rancid vehicles the VHRs.
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Post by eal1ngvolvo483 on Apr 2, 2024 14:52:49 GMT
For 65 why does it say Ealing Green now, I’ve been asked this and I want to know why is it terminating at Christchurch and not the station.
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Post by paulo on Apr 2, 2024 15:13:38 GMT
Thanks for letting me know. I reckon on riding one on an Ealing/Greenford/Wembley trip next year. I was not expecting to locate or ride a VHR yesterday. Although not my favourite buses, they are distinctive and still better than ex-Tower Transit frogfaces. When riding LTs I like exiting at the rear. By way of an embarrassing true story, when I got up from my seat with a view to getting off, I did momentarily look back then realise that, being a VHR not an LT, there was of course no rear staircase or exit. The ex TT VHs are atleast better to look and and has much better visibility for the interior and exterior as nothing blocks the exterior mirrors and the lighting on the interior means you are not staring at darkness when trying to see passemg3rs getting off. Absolutely rancid vehicles the VHRs. There’s not much to suggest otherwise than you really don’t like your employer.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Apr 2, 2024 15:19:26 GMT
The ex TT VHs are atleast better to look and and has much better visibility for the interior and exterior as nothing blocks the exterior mirrors and the lighting on the interior means you are not staring at darkness when trying to see passemg3rs getting off. Absolutely rancid vehicles the VHRs. There’s not much to suggest otherwise than you really don’t like your employer. What's the employer got to do with the design of a bus?
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Post by paulo on Apr 3, 2024 6:22:25 GMT
There’s not much to suggest otherwise than you really don’t like your employer. What's the employer got to do with the design of a bus? What?
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Post by paulo on Apr 3, 2024 6:23:50 GMT
VH45190. Six garages in six months. Takes some beating that.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Apr 3, 2024 6:36:29 GMT
What's the employer got to do with the design of a bus? What? The OP was complaining about bus design and then you accused then of having a problem with their employer. Where's the link?
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Post by paulo on Apr 3, 2024 8:46:01 GMT
The OP was complaining about bus design and then you accused then of having a problem with their employer. Where's the link? Not at all. Recent posts from the individual have suggested that he is not keen on RATP vehicle selection at BT or speed limiting devices which of course he is fully entitled to express.
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Post by Volvo on Apr 3, 2024 14:24:46 GMT
The OP was complaining about bus design and then you accused then of having a problem with their employer. Where's the link? Not at all. Recent posts from the individual have suggested that he is not keen on RATP vehicle selection at BT or speed limiting devices which of course he is fully entitled to express. Speed limiting has nothing to do with employer, it's a TFL policy as all companies have to have speed limiters fitted to their buses. Secondly most of the post 2019 buses at various companies are ADL products and have the same issues as RATPs own which is ADLs fault not RATP. In regards to your post about the VHRs, how did you manage to arrive at the conclusion that because I don't like the design of the VHR's means that I don't like my employer? Yes, RATP bought the turds but they didn't design them, same for all the the electric nonsense. Also I don't like the specificsrion of the ex TT VHs but that has nothing to do with RATP as RATPs own VHs have a much better specification. You need to sit down, as your posts are not making sense.
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Post by paulo on Apr 3, 2024 15:09:13 GMT
Not at all. Recent posts from the individual have suggested that he is not keen on RATP vehicle selection at BT or speed limiting devices which of course he is fully entitled to express. Speed limiting has nothing to do with employer, it's a TFL policy as all companies have to have speed limiters fitted to their buses. Secondly most of the post 2019 buses at various companies are ADL products and have the same issues as RATPs own which is ADLs fault not RATP. In regards to your post about the VHRs, how did you manage to arrive at the conclusion that because I don't like the design of the VHR's means that I don't like my employer? Yes, RATP bought the turds but they didn't design them, same for all the the electric nonsense. Also I don't like the specificsrion of the ex TT VHs but that has nothing to do with RATP as RATPs own VHs have a much better specification. You need to sit down, as your posts are not making sense. Sorry, it wasn’t my intention to offend you and I would like to aplologise if I have. Just noticed that pretty much all of your posts recently had a very negative tone so I assume it’s the bus industry or its components you currently don’t currently like, not your employer. Again, I apologise for any upset I may have caused you. Never good to go to work unhappy though. It’s a major part of anyone’s life.
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Post by Volvo on Apr 3, 2024 15:48:45 GMT
Speed limiting has nothing to do with employer, it's a TFL policy as all companies have to have speed limiters fitted to their buses. Secondly most of the post 2019 buses at various companies are ADL products and have the same issues as RATPs own which is ADLs fault not RATP. In regards to your post about the VHRs, how did you manage to arrive at the conclusion that because I don't like the design of the VHR's means that I don't like my employer? Yes, RATP bought the turds but they didn't design them, same for all the the electric nonsense. Also I don't like the specificsrion of the ex TT VHs but that has nothing to do with RATP as RATPs own VHs have a much better specification. You need to sit down, as your posts are not making sense. Sorry, it wasn’t my intention to offend you and I would like to aplologise if I have. Just noticed that pretty much all of your posts recently had a very negative tone so I assume it’s the bus industry or its components you currently don’t currently like, not your employer. Again, I apologise for any upset I may have caused you. Never good to go to work unhappy though. It’s a major part of anyone’s life. Apology accepted though you haven't upset me, you just confused me. I am happy at RATP. The problem is some of these buses especially these modern buses are just not as good as older ones imo, in terms of driver comfort, ease of use, visibility, handling (especially electric buses which are so heavy), braking etc its just how industry is now. Then you have silly systems like green road and ISA which are inconsistent and don't work well as they vary from bus to bus not even bus type to bus type. Take Green road for example it makes many drivers stressed to achieve a green score and alot of them spend alot of time being distracted by this little box which can flash orange if you corner at 7mph in DLE30251 but won't flash if you go around the same corner at 12mph in DLE30252 for example. Add to this that all E200 MMCs have rubbish braking, you have to put so much extra effort into your general driving and braking as to not set this thing off, as depending on bus it can go off several times on one trip alot which then comes up as a bad score. You don't have this issue with a DE though as they have good braking and generally just handle alot better. The electric buses have very sensitive green road, especially the BEs. I could go on and on but this is the reason for the 'negative' comments but this again isn't a RATP thing every company has this driver monitoring.
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Apr 3, 2024 16:42:30 GMT
VH45190. Six garages in six months. Takes some beating that. This is certainly one restless bus. BT, X, V, FW, RP and TV, plus WK some time ago, S and JE back in the day too. Just AV left and it will have visited every garage with VHs.
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