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Post by sam97 on Jan 17, 2024 18:02:02 GMT
Looking through flikir and I bumped into this new bad boy: the Yutong U11DD. This is a demonstrator, trailing on Go North East Services. I wonder if this would be another option of EV buses for tfl services. Credit goes to Liam Hall: flic.kr/p/2psPUvVThey look a bit like a boxed version of the BYD EV City’s
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Post by wirewiper on Jan 17, 2024 18:05:02 GMT
Looking through flikir and I bumped into this new bad boy: the Yutong U11DD. This is a demonstrator, trailing on Go North East Services. I wonder if this would be another option of EV buses for tfl services. Credit goes to Liam Hall: flic.kr/p/2psPUvVIt's possible, although Yutong hasn't yet cracked the London market with its single deckers despite numerous examples operating elsewhere in England and Wales.
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Post by sam97 on Jan 17, 2024 18:07:37 GMT
Looking through flikir and I bumped into this new bad boy: the Yutong U11DD. This is a demonstrator, trailing on Go North East Services. I wonder if this would be another option of EV buses for tfl services. Credit goes to Liam Hall: flic.kr/p/2psPUvVIt's possible, although Yutong hasn't yet cracked the London market with its single deckers despite numerous examples operating elsewhere in England and Wales. That is true. Hopefully they crack the London market with this one. 😅
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Post by VPL630 on Feb 1, 2024 10:30:02 GMT
Had ride on one of the Volvo BZL’s on the 251 last night, first time I’ve not felt sick on an electric bus, it seems Volvo have pretty good software to reduce the jerkiness that is normally associated with them although this can be helped by the driver.
A few weeks back I finally went on one of those Optare/Switch things on the 339, I did Stratford and back and I don’t think I’ll be on one soon, driver flying about so fast it was hitting the bump stops going over speed bumps, very harsh on the brakes and accelerator and the noise this thing made, hardly quiet and quite an annoying sound like the old milk floats.
The BYD’s are and will always be cheap rubbish in my eyes, I went on the 153 and lost count at the times the driver hit full lock trying to get around the route,the way they drive isn’t particularly nice either
Moans from an ICE lover
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Post by COBO on Feb 9, 2024 23:53:05 GMT
If the Optare MetroCitys on the 312 do end up leaving surely that look good for Optare first you have the MEs on the 200 that are currently off the road and then you have Metrolines OMEs that keep coming of the road.
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Post by vjaska on Feb 10, 2024 1:28:55 GMT
If the Optare MetroCitys on the 312 do end up leaving surely that look good for Optare first you have the MEs on the 200 that are currently off the road and then you have Metrolines OMEs that keep coming of the road. Firstly, we don't know what's happening to the 312's EMC's beyond simply coming off the route - they could end up on another route either with Arriva or with another London operator. Secondly, it's completely different to the situation surrounding the 200's Me's which itself is a different situation to the Metroline OME's - I don't think Optare will lose sleep over the 312 losing it's EMC's
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Post by sl7 on Feb 12, 2024 22:25:02 GMT
Apologies if this is in the wrong thread, I am new to this forum.
I had the opportunity to ride the Volvo BZL double decker on the 213 the other day. Is it known what the end game is with these vehicles? I believe Sutton garage has two of them, but from the information I can find none of the routes operating out of that station will be converting to the Volvo BZL.
The fandom wiki says that the Volvo BZL is only on the 213 until August. Meanwhile, the 151 is still using the old diesel Optare Olympus buses.
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Post by southlondon413 on Feb 12, 2024 22:50:55 GMT
Apologies if this is in the wrong thread, I am new to this forum. I had the opportunity to ride the Volvo BZL double decker on the 213 the other day. Is it known what the end game is with these vehicles? I believe Sutton garage has two of them, but from the information I can find none of the routes operating out of that station will be converting to the Volvo BZL. The fandom wiki says that the Volvo BZL is only on the 213 until August. Meanwhile, the 151 is still using the old diesel Optare Olympus buses. There is only one as far as I am aware and it’s only a trial vehicle allocated to the 213, nothing is converting to the type. There also isn’t any concrete information on how long the trial will last, the wiki site is a terrible resource for information as anyone can post what they like. My hunch is that it Go Ahead will announce an open day at A to celebrate its 100th anniversary to take place in the summer and MVB1 will probably stick around until then.
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Post by SILENCED on Feb 12, 2024 22:54:10 GMT
Apologies if this is in the wrong thread, I am new to this forum. I had the opportunity to ride the Volvo BZL double decker on the 213 the other day. Is it known what the end game is with these vehicles? I believe Sutton garage has two of them, but from the information I can find none of the routes operating out of that station will be converting to the Volvo BZL. The fandom wiki says that the Volvo BZL is only on the 213 until August. Meanwhile, the 151 is still using the old diesel Optare Olympus buses. As far as we are aware there is just a single BZL at Sutton, which is a Volvo Demonstrator. We have been advised the BZL is exclusively for the 213 for its spell there. No Go-Ahead London order has been announced for any BZL purchases. BYD/ADL s have been purchased for the 151, but it has been reported on this forum that until such time as modifications are made to the Worcester Park stand, they can not be used on the route.
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Post by Connor on Feb 12, 2024 23:37:06 GMT
Apologies if this is in the wrong thread, I am new to this forum. I had the opportunity to ride the Volvo BZL double decker on the 213 the other day. Is it known what the end game is with these vehicles? I believe Sutton garage has two of them, but from the information I can find none of the routes operating out of that station will be converting to the Volvo BZL. The fandom wiki says that the Volvo BZL is only on the 213 until August. Meanwhile, the 151 is still using the old diesel Optare Olympus buses. As far as we are aware there is just a single BZL at Sutton, which is a Volvo Demonstrator. We have been advised the BZL is exclusively for the 213 for its spell there. No Go-Ahead London order has been announced for any BZL purchases. BYD/ADL s have been purchased for the 151, but it has been reported on this forum that until such time as modifications are made to the Worcester Park stand, they can not be used on the route. Just out of curiosity, what is wrong with the bus stand at Worcester Park, that prevents the E400EV's from the route? I am not familiar with that part of London at all! Also, I struggle to believe that Go Ahead went ahead with an order of buses, without testing them along the entire route (and stands). We are getting electric buses on the W8, I have been told that WDEs and BDEs have both been route tested and are both suitable. Hopefully some BDE's will be ordered in the end...will update as soon as I know.
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Post by SILENCED on Feb 13, 2024 0:21:50 GMT
As far as we are aware there is just a single BZL at Sutton, which is a Volvo Demonstrator. We have been advised the BZL is exclusively for the 213 for its spell there. No Go-Ahead London order has been announced for any BZL purchases. BYD/ADL s have been purchased for the 151, but it has been reported on this forum that until such time as modifications are made to the Worcester Park stand, they can not be used on the route. Just out of curiosity, what is wrong with the bus stand at Worcester Park, that prevents the E400EV's from the route? I am not familiar with that part of London at all! Also, I struggle to believe that Go Ahead went ahead with an order of buses, without testing them along the entire route (and stands). We are getting electric buses on the W8, I have been told that WDEs and BDEs have both been route tested and are both suitable. Hopefully some BDE's will be ordered in the end...will update as soon as I know. You will have to wait for others to reply, as just repeating what has been claimed on here.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2024 4:52:54 GMT
Apologies if this is in the wrong thread, I am new to this forum. I had the opportunity to ride the Volvo BZL double decker on the 213 the other day. Is it known what the end game is with these vehicles? I believe Sutton garage has two of them, but from the information I can find none of the routes operating out of that station will be converting to the Volvo BZL. There's 1 Volvo BZL Demonstrator and 1 Wright Electroliner Demonstrator at Sutton
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2024 4:57:53 GMT
As far as we are aware there is just a single BZL at Sutton, which is a Volvo Demonstrator. We have been advised the BZL is exclusively for the 213 for its spell there. No Go-Ahead London order has been announced for any BZL purchases. BYD/ADL s have been purchased for the 151, but it has been reported on this forum that until such time as modifications are made to the Worcester Park stand, they can not be used on the route. Just out of curiosity, what is wrong with the bus stand at Worcester Park, that prevents the E400EV's from the route? I am not familiar with that part of London at all! Also, I struggle to believe that Go Ahead went ahead with an order of buses, without testing them along the entire route (and stands). We are getting electric buses on the W8, I have been told that WDEs and BDEs have both been route tested and are both suitable. Hopefully some BDE's will be ordered in the end...will update as soon as I know. They can't turn left out of Worcester Park Station without mounting the kerb which is a no go for TfL. The WHVs barely make it and clip the kerb but since they don't mount the kerb, TfL haven't and won't bat an eyelid. The Ees can be used if they don't stand or serve the Worcester Park stop and just use it as a turning point but that wont happen since TfL wouldn't want to cut it to the high street. As far as I'm aware there have been 2 "official" route tests with both union and TfL involved, one before the buses were delivered using an Ee from Croydon and one some point last year using a Sutton Ee.
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Post by Connor on Feb 13, 2024 9:20:27 GMT
Just out of curiosity, what is wrong with the bus stand at Worcester Park, that prevents the E400EV's from the route? I am not familiar with that part of London at all! Also, I struggle to believe that Go Ahead went ahead with an order of buses, without testing them along the entire route (and stands). We are getting electric buses on the W8, I have been told that WDEs and BDEs have both been route tested and are both suitable. Hopefully some BDE's will be ordered in the end...will update as soon as I know. They can't turn left out of Worcester Park Station without mounting the kerb which is a no go for TfL. The WHVs barely make it and clip the kerb but since they don't mount the kerb, TfL haven't and won't bat an eyelid. The Ees can be used if they don't stand or serve the Worcester Park stop and just use it as a turning point but that wont happen since TfL wouldn't want to cut it to the high street. As far as I'm aware there have been 2 "official" route tests with both union and TfL involved, one before the buses were delivered using an Ee from Croydon and one some point last year using a Sutton Ee. Ah okay, that would make sense, the B5LH Hybrids have a good turning circle considering their length. Though looking at the stand on Street View, it's hard to see how they would be able to tweak the stand for the Ee's. Thanks for the information NotchA
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Post by southlondon413 on Feb 13, 2024 9:40:04 GMT
They can't turn left out of Worcester Park Station without mounting the kerb which is a no go for TfL. The WHVs barely make it and clip the kerb but since they don't mount the kerb, TfL haven't and won't bat an eyelid. The Ees can be used if they don't stand or serve the Worcester Park stop and just use it as a turning point but that wont happen since TfL wouldn't want to cut it to the high street. As far as I'm aware there have been 2 "official" route tests with both union and TfL involved, one before the buses were delivered using an Ee from Croydon and one some point last year using a Sutton Ee. Ah okay, that would make sense, the B5LH Hybrids have a good turning circle considering their length. Though looking at the stand on Street View, it's hard to see how they would be able to tweak the stand for the Ee's. Thanks for the information NotchA Rearranging the traffic lights to remove the two on Lower Green Gardens and the one in the middle of the central reservation would allow buses to swing out slightly further. Dropping the curbs would help and adjusting the stand so vehicles sit further back would probably resolve the issue.
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