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Post by paulsw2 on Aug 26, 2013 0:47:49 GMT
One possible solution is N routes and 24hr services between say midnight and 5AM will allow an oyster card user to ride until the balance reaches -£4.50 the card would have to be registered to an address so if the card was was not topped up the card could be stopped to prevent further attempts of travel.This would enable an emergency journey to a hospital or enable people to get to work etc when it is virtually impossible to top up an oyster.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 2:10:53 GMT
One possible solution is N routes and 24hr services between say midnight and 5AM will allow an oyster card user to ride until the balance reaches -£4.50 the card would have to be registered to an address so if the card was was not topped up the card could be stopped to prevent further attempts of travel.This would enable an emergency journey to a hospital or enable people to get to work etc when it is virtually impossible to top up an oyster. Anyone know what percentage of non discounted oyster cards are registered? I bet it's low.
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Post by rambo on Aug 26, 2013 19:27:09 GMT
If another passenger wants to pay the fare for someone else, I would accept it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 20:57:31 GMT
TfL is probably going to set a precedent where you are not able to pay using the universal means of exchange for a service that is not free at the point of use. Can't see how that's going to be workable.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 23:16:48 GMT
My idea is...
Abolish cash fares during rush hour times (morning and afternoons) and keep the late night fares in place.
And bring back Unpaid Fare Notice.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2013 6:28:10 GMT
My idea is... Abolish cash fares during rush hour times (morning and afternoons) and keep the late night fares in place. And bring back Unpaid Fare Notice. If the driver has a cash tray and ticket machine why should it not be used at peak times? I just don't see the logic.
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Post by southlondonbus on Sept 18, 2013 7:51:38 GMT
I honestly think more time will be wasted telling passengers that cash is not accepted than just accepting it.
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Post by westhamgeezer on Sept 18, 2013 14:05:36 GMT
I honestly think more time will be wasted telling passengers that cash is not accepted than just accepting it. I agree....bit like the cashless central zone, more time wasted waiting for people to buy from machines than saved not paying on bus. Talking of that, I thought it had been abolished (I know several machines have been taken away/ are out of use) but last weekend a passenger got on at a stop on victoria street with a non working machine and the driver took her to the stop just before victoria coach station where he waited for her to buy a ticket there.
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Post by M1104 on Sept 18, 2013 15:18:58 GMT
If this cashless scheme goes ahead would it mean installing extra readers throughout the bottom deck with multi door boarding, like with the LTs)? (excepy obviously with single doors buses).
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Post by lonmark on Sept 18, 2013 15:36:20 GMT
If it is go ahead, then TfL really need to be more careful about this!!! It need to put more information poster or leaflets! warning to some 1% cash payer into how to get oystercard or whatsoever. Don't forget South East London don't get good place where u can top up your oystercard unlike Tube stations!!!
Maybe Supermarket should to get Oystercard machine as well like Paypoints or payzone ? why not?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2013 15:36:42 GMT
If this cashless scheme goes ahead would it mean installing extra readers throughout the bottom deck with multi door boarding, like with the LTs)? (excepy obviously with single doors buses). No...........why would extra readers be needed? The only difference will be passengers cannot pay cash anymore.
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Post by M1104 on Sept 18, 2013 16:27:28 GMT
Wasn't sure if they are eventually intending to go towards LT-type OPO operation.
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Post by rambo on Sept 19, 2013 17:49:28 GMT
TFL could put up a million signs, no one will take any notice.......................
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Sept 19, 2013 18:16:08 GMT
If it is go ahead, then TfL really need to be more careful about this!!! It need to put more information poster or leaflets! warning to some 1% cash payer into how to get oystercard or whatsoever. Don't forget South East London don't get good place where u can top up your oystercard unlike Tube stations!!! Maybe Supermarket should to get Oystercard machine as well like Paypoints or payzone ? why not? I doubt the independent retailers who are current Oyster Ticket Stop retailers would be happy with such a proposal. Selling TfL products is a guaranteed way of attracting people to those shops.
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Post by snoggle on Sept 19, 2013 19:09:47 GMT
If it is go ahead, then TfL really need to be more careful about this!!! It need to put more information poster or leaflets! warning to some 1% cash payer into how to get oystercard or whatsoever. Don't forget South East London don't get good place where u can top up your oystercard unlike Tube stations!!! Maybe Supermarket should to get Oystercard machine as well like Paypoints or payzone ? why not? The problem with expanding the Ticket Stop network is that for big businesses they can earn far more money from the space than TfL will pay them in commission payments. Also supermarkets will not want to have to deal with complex products like TfL's tickets - newsagents can cope because they are smaller and are incentivised by the commission that is paid. If supermarkets or petrol stations had thought it worthwhile to be Ticket Stops then we would have had them by now. We don't have them so therefore that's that. We need to bear in mind that TfL are trying to save money, not spend it, with going to cashless operation. This is why there is no reference to adding Ticket Stops or installing Oystercard vending / add value machines.
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