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Post by lazy_eye_metaphor on Jan 21, 2019 21:55:38 GMT
Woolwich and Plumstead however... Should put the LT's on the 180 instead as that goes though the affluent Greenwich, not so affluent Woolwich & Plumstead, a utterly depressing & run down Yarnton Way and before finally ending in the middle of industrial estate in Belvedere Well that really brought a smile to my face. It so happens I live on Yarnton Way! 😂
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Post by vjaska on Jan 21, 2019 23:12:55 GMT
Should put the LT's on the 180 instead as that goes though the affluent Greenwich, not so affluent Woolwich & Plumstead, a utterly depressing & run down Yarnton Way and before finally ending in the middle of industrial estate in Belvedere Well that really brought a smile to my face. It so happens I live on Yarnton Way! 😂 I have to say I quite like the brutalist architecture along there though I'm probably in the minority on that - just a shame that like other councils, Bexley did not look after them as well as not bother to deter vandals away
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Post by M1104 on Jan 22, 2019 13:19:37 GMT
Has the 415 permanently reverted back to pure E40Hs?
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Post by cl54 on Jan 23, 2019 21:47:35 GMT
Blackheath not fashionable?! I guess the Blackheath Society would claim it's above fashion. Woolwich and Plumstead however... You obviously haven't seen the Woolwich Arsenal housing development. (Expensive enough to finance the Crossrail station on the site.)
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Post by dennistas on Jan 28, 2019 11:06:38 GMT
The 56 could now convert to LT as there is a new stand at Whipps Cross.
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Post by snowman on Feb 4, 2019 6:54:46 GMT
As per Arriva thread, looking like 123 might convert to release buses for 158 when Arriva gain route
As per RATP thread, looking like 139 might convert, to allow buses to cascade and reduce euroIV upgrades of 11 year old SPs
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Post by southlondonbus on Feb 4, 2019 9:03:19 GMT
All this surely depends on the 48 being withdrawn as the shortened 27 won't release many and the 88s will swap to the 87 and part 176 and the 311's to most likely complete the 176. If the 48 stays then there would be nothing for the 123 or 139.
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Post by snowman on Feb 4, 2019 11:31:25 GMT
When I last looked at it 863 buses were required for the PVR out of 1000 (excluding night routes which come from day allocation) which is 1.159 buses (or bit over 8 for every 7 required)
Route-PVR 3 20 8 33 9 18 11 22 12 33 15 23 16 18 21 27 24 18 27 28 38 53 48 19 55 35 59 28 68 23 73 34 76 25 88 23 91 21 137 22 148 24 149 38 159 34 168 21 189 18 211 16 253 27 254 33 267 17 390 30 453 36 EL1 17 EL2 15 EL3 14
Although they are non standard, could probably push the utilisation to nearer 880 out of 1000 as having more than one spare for every 7 buses is fairly generous.
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Post by southlondonbus on Feb 4, 2019 12:29:15 GMT
I think the 59 is proposed to loose about 3 peak journeys so that could free up 2 or 3 LTs.
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Post by redbus on Feb 4, 2019 20:34:50 GMT
As per Arriva thread, looking like 123 might convert to release buses for 158 when Arriva gain route As per RATP thread, looking like 139 might convert, to allow buses to cascade and reduce euroIV upgrades of 11 year old SPs If the 139s don't get electrics then it might be converted, although for me that would depend upon not becoming 'front door entry' only.
As for the 123s, they can't have LTs......nooooooooooooooooooooooo...........snoggle won't allow it!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 20:59:50 GMT
Will the 27 receive a top up of LTs from anywhere or will it have enough once the route is cut back.
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Post by dennistas on Feb 4, 2019 21:01:54 GMT
As per Arriva thread, looking like 123 might convert to release buses for 158 when Arriva gain route As per RATP thread, looking like 139 might convert, to allow buses to cascade and reduce euroIV upgrades of 11 year old SPs If the 139s don't get electrics then it might be converted, although for me that would depend upon not becoming 'front door entry' only.
As for the 123s, they can't have LTs......nooooooooooooooooooooooo...........snoggle won't allow it!!
Been confirmed that the 123 will have DWs and 158 will have VLWs, only question is te left over allocation of the 158 as Arriva have only 10 VLWs.
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Post by snoggle on Feb 4, 2019 21:32:13 GMT
As per Arriva thread, looking like 123 might convert to release buses for 158 when Arriva gain route As per RATP thread, looking like 139 might convert, to allow buses to cascade and reduce euroIV upgrades of 11 year old SPs If the 139s don't get electrics then it might be converted, although for me that would depend upon not becoming 'front door entry' only.
As for the 123s, they can't have LTs......nooooooooooooooooooooooo...........snoggle won't allow it!!
My influence doesn't stretch beyond my front door never mind to TfL Towers. They don't take any notice of anything I say anyway. I knew the VLWs were staying with Arriva but not where they were to be redeployed.
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Post by busaholic on Feb 4, 2019 22:47:02 GMT
If the 139s don't get electrics then it might be converted, although for me that would depend upon not becoming 'front door entry' only.
As for the 123s, they can't have LTs......nooooooooooooooooooooooo...........snoggle won't allow it!!
My influence doesn't stretch beyond my front door never mind to TfL Towers. They don't take any notice of anything I say anyway. I knew the VLWs were staying with Arriva but not where they were to be redeployed. You're lucky - my influence doesn't even stretch to the next room.
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Post by dennistas on Feb 4, 2019 23:01:48 GMT
If the 139s don't get electrics then it might be converted, although for me that would depend upon not becoming 'front door entry' only.
As for the 123s, they can't have LTs......nooooooooooooooooooooooo...........snoggle won't allow it!!
My influence doesn't stretch beyond my front door never mind to TfL Towers. They don't take any notice of anything I say anyway. I knew the VLWs were staying with Arriva but not where they were to be redeployed. The VLWs will look good on the 158 imo! Just curios to see what will form the rest of the allocation.
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