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Post by overgroundcommuter on Mar 8, 2014 11:36:34 GMT
Brixton NR station only serves 897,000 passengers per year. This comes as no surprise considering the Victoria Line station serves 24m per year with a high frequency service.
The nearby stations served by Southeastern such as Herne Hill and West Dulwich are adequately served by Route 3. If it wasn't for the Victoria line, I'd imagine Route 2 would get a 38 style high frequency.
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Post by vjaska on Mar 8, 2014 12:42:09 GMT
Brixton NR station only serves 897,000 passengers per year. This comes as no surprise considering the Victoria Line station serves 24m per year with a high frequency service. The nearby stations served by Southeastern such as Herne Hill and West Dulwich are adequately served by Route 3. If it wasn't for the Victoria line, I'd imagine Route 2 would get a 38 style high frequency. Indeed though I reckon the station would receive more passengers if an Overground station was built for interchange & the current high level station was rebuilt - I know many people who refuse to use the high level station due to the many incidents involving muggings & assaults happening in & around the station. Interesting you mention Herne Hill, that's been identified as a future bottleneck (next 10 years apparently) and where capacity needs to be increased. The station may even need to be rebuilt to resolve this.
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Post by marlon101 on Mar 8, 2014 13:24:28 GMT
EDIT - I have replayed the webcast and the places Leon listed as being reviewed were "Bexley Riverside and areas affected by Crossrail". Undoubtedly a phrase to appease the local council mob who are forever whinging about the borough's bus services, particularly to the north of the borough. Though I am a 'southerner' I can't see masses wrong with it at the moment and this probably supports my point that little will change other than a few collapses of the service on certain route 132 style when southeastern fail big time.
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Post by snoggle on Mar 29, 2014 14:01:41 GMT
My three "starters for ten" for extra Crossrail suburban services would be the old service proposals from 2002 for the
W19 (or a new service) to be extended / to run Ilford - Seven Kings - Aldborough Hatch. 306 local service for Ilford - Redbridge - Woodford Bridge 396 to run on from Kings George's Hospital to Goodmayes / Chadwell Heath (via the 387 and 86)
There might even be merit in having a 306 which does Woodford Bridge - Roding Lane - Wanstead Park - Ilford - Seven Kings - Aldborough Hatch. It'd need smallish buses like the Streetlites on the 462.
I also wonder if TfL will be reviewing early morning and evening timings on a wide variety of routes to better co-ordinate with Crossrail frequencies and first / last trains to give good connections. If Crossrail ends up with a night service at weekends then there could be interesting effects on suburban connecting routes.
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Post by twobellstogo on Mar 29, 2014 14:13:13 GMT
EDIT - I have replayed the webcast and the places Leon listed as being reviewed were "Bexley Riverside and areas affected by Crossrail". Undoubtedly a phrase to appease the local council mob who are forever whinging about the borough's bus services, particularly to the north of the borough. Though I am a 'southerner' I can't see masses wrong with it at the moment and this probably supports my point that little will change other than a few collapses of the service on certain route 132 style when southeastern fail big time. Largely agree : but I suspect a link will be put in between Upper Belvedere and Abbey Wood for Crossrail, and I also suspect that some other Abbey Wood routes will get later night services to connect with last Crossrail trains. My personal choice to connect Upper Belvedere would be to swap the routings of route 244 and 469 between Woolwich and Queen Elizabeth Hospital, to shorten the 244 at that end, and then to extend the 244 to Bexleyheath via New Road, Woolwich Road, Upper Belvedere, Brook Street, Carlton Road, Bexley Road and route 229 (to terminate on the current 401 stand : the 401 would extend to BX) though whether it would eventually work out that way, time will tell.
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Post by sid on Mar 31, 2014 10:25:18 GMT
Doesn't the 7 serve a different market to crossrail? Withdrawing it east of Oxford Circus might be justified?
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Post by sid on Mar 31, 2014 13:17:06 GMT
Brixton NR station only serves 897,000 passengers per year. This comes as no surprise considering the Victoria Line station serves 24m per year with a high frequency service. The nearby stations served by Southeastern such as Herne Hill and West Dulwich are adequately served by Route 3. If it wasn't for the Victoria line, I'd imagine Route 2 would get a 38 style high frequency. Your probably right about the 2, seems the current Brixton station is only used for southbound journies beyond West Dulwich? I really cannot see how any sort of rebuild could be justified unless it included high level platforms for the LO.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Mar 31, 2014 16:37:41 GMT
Brixton NR station only serves 897,000 passengers per year. This comes as no surprise considering the Victoria Line station serves 24m per year with a high frequency service. The nearby stations served by Southeastern such as Herne Hill and West Dulwich are adequately served by Route 3. If it wasn't for the Victoria line, I'd imagine Route 2 would get a 38 style high frequency. Your probably right about the 2, seems the current Brixton station is only used for southbound journies beyond West Dulwich? I really cannot see how any sort of rebuild could be justified unless it included high level platforms for the LO. I imagine if Brixton NR is used for local journeys, it's for stations east of West Dulwich, such as Sydenham Hill, Penge East, Beckenham Junction and Bromley South. Also the P4 attracts other Brixton based local passenger usage despite being in walking distance of the station from Dulwich Village.
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