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Post by bookd on Jul 12, 2014 21:51:37 GMT
When on occasion I return to Feltham station late at night, I find that the H25 almost always runs about 10 minutes late. (the exception, of course, being if the train should be late and then the bus will be on time and I miss it!) As the roads are deserted at that time of night the only reason that I can think of is that drivers choose to take a longer break at Hatton Cross, and eliminate the layover at Butts Farm. (Can anyone at Abellio Fulwell tell if I am right?) If this is indeed the reason would it not be more sensible to change the timetable officially rather than unofficially? There must be other similar examples elsewhere on the network. |
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Post by Swadbus on Jul 13, 2014 5:24:58 GMT
You need to be specific for anyone to comment.
What time do you believe the bus is due? What time does it usually arrive. What time does the timetable say? What direction is the bus going? What day of the week does this happen?
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Post by snoggle on Jul 13, 2014 12:31:45 GMT
The simplest thing is for you to complain to TfL with some specific examples so TfL can investigate and follow up with Abellio. They should also be able to look at I-Bus data to see if there is a persistent issue. You may be right that drivers are leaving late on the basis that they can "catch up" due to light traffic or a slack schedule. The problem with this is that it doesn't take much to happen for the ability to "catch up" to disappear. The other issue is that airport traffic doesn't conform to the normal peak periods so you can get traffic delays at the oddest times.
We might have a lot of opinions on this group but I don't think we're able to change timetables!
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Post by sid on Jul 19, 2014 11:37:28 GMT
When on occasion I return to Feltham station late at night, I find that the H25 almost always runs about 10 minutes late. (the exception, of course, being if the train should be late and then the bus will be on time and I miss it!) As the roads are deserted at that time of night the only reason that I can think of is that drivers choose to take a longer break at Hatton Cross, and eliminate the layover at Butts Farm. (Can anyone at Abellio Fulwell tell if I am right?) If this is indeed the reason would it not be more sensible to change the timetable officially rather than unofficially? There must be other similar examples elsewhere on the network. It does sound as though drivers are running late to avoid taking stand time at Butts Farm, whether there are any anti social behaviour or residential issues (as per the T31 on another thread) I don't know but certainly when I was bus driving I can remember the word about certain places was 'you don't want to be sitting around there in the evening' and so normal practice was to arrive late and go straight in and out. The 284 at Grove Park Cemetery is one example that comes to mind. I would have thought that the H25 timetable could be suitably amended if need be. I'm sure there are indeed loads of other examples where some evening services don't really need stand time at both ends of the route. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2014 8:50:08 GMT
Butts Farm Estate is not a pleasant place to spend anytime, let alone stand-time. Should amend timetable though.
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Post by jay38a on Jul 20, 2014 9:24:57 GMT
When on occasion I return to Feltham station late at night, I find that the H25 almost always runs about 10 minutes late. (the exception, of course, being if the train should be late and then the bus will be on time and I miss it!) As the roads are deserted at that time of night the only reason that I can think of is that drivers choose to take a longer break at Hatton Cross, and eliminate the layover at Butts Farm. (Can anyone at Abellio Fulwell tell if I am right?) If this is indeed the reason would it not be more sensible to change the timetable officially rather than unofficially? There must be other similar examples elsewhere on the network. It does sound as though drivers are running late to avoid taking stand time at Butts Farm, whether there are any anti social behaviour or residential issues (as per the T31 on another thread) I don't know but certainly when I was bus driving I can remember the word about certain places was 'you don't want to be sitting around there in the evening' and so normal practice was to arrive late and go straight in and out. The 284 at Grove Park Cemetery is one example that comes to mind. I would have thought that the H25 timetable could be suitably amended if need be. I'm sure there are indeed loads of other examples where some evening services don't really need stand time at both ends of the route. The 284 has 6 mins at Grove Park Cemetery in the evening but your normally running late so go in and out. The 353 is one where u only get 1 mins at Ramsden and 3 at Addington. Also on R3 you get 2 mins at Chelsfeild Village which you never get. |
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Post by 6HP502C on Jul 24, 2014 1:43:52 GMT
When on occasion I return to Feltham station late at night, I find that the H25 almost always runs about 10 minutes late. (the exception, of course, being if the train should be late and then the bus will be on time and I miss it!) As the roads are deserted at that time of night the only reason that I can think of is that drivers choose to take a longer break at Hatton Cross, and eliminate the layover at Butts Farm. (Can anyone at Abellio Fulwell tell if I am right?) If this is indeed the reason would it not be more sensible to change the timetable officially rather than unofficially? There must be other similar examples elsewhere on the network. The last few trips on the H25 almost always leave Hatton Cross on time. I suggest you put in a formal complaint to www.tfl.gov.uk/helpandcontact - they're the ones with the power to investigate and address the issue  |
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