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Post by routew15 on Aug 26, 2014 12:21:58 GMT
TfL has proposed Route changes to the 394 involving it being diverted from Dalston Lane, Amhurst Road and Urswick Road. The new routing will be via Morning Lane and Ponsford Street to Homerton Row •This would leave the 425 and 488 to serve the Urswick Road •It will be the 4th bus from Morning Lane to serve Homerton Hospital •It will no longer serve Hackney Central station •There will be fast journeys to and from Homerton Hospital To see more details check the Consultation Page
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Post by snoggle on Aug 26, 2014 12:56:07 GMT
TfL has proposed Route changes to the 394 involving it being diverted from Dalston Lane, Amhurst Road and Urswick Road. The new routing will be via Morning Lane and Ponsford Street to Homerton Row •This would leave the 425 and 488 to serve the Urswick Road •It will be the 4th bus from Morning Lane to serve Homerton Hospital •It will no longer serve Hackney Central station •There will be fast journeys to and from Homerton Hospital To see more details check the Consultation PageHmm - more broken links in the bus network. This is what happens when you remove bus lanes and squash buses along with all the other traffic. I reckon this might also be a way of lopping 1 bus off the PVR - checking the comparative running times for the 394 and 276 I reckon you just lose 12 mins off the round trip time for the 394 as a result of the proposed rerouting so this is really about a financial saving not a time saving for passengers. I can't imagine this proposal is going to go down very well with people.
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Post by routew15 on Aug 26, 2014 14:09:02 GMT
Hmm - more broken links in the bus network. This is what happens when you remove bus lanes and squash buses along with all the other traffic. I reckon this might also be a way of lopping 1 bus off the PVR - checking the comparative running times for the 394 and 276 I reckon you just lose 12 mins off the round trip time for the 394 as a result of the proposed rerouting so this is really about a financial saving not a time saving for passengers. I can't imagine this proposal is going to go down very well with people. As much as I'm for the "cycling revolution" in London, I don't want to see Cycling being prioritised over Buses but after reading the TfL Cycle Vision I think precisely that is going to happen. Also TfL seems to think that introducing the "Cycle revolution" will reduce overcrowding on buses I did not know TfL were that good at righting jokes. My observations of the 394 is that it gets very busy from Hackney Central station as it is the closest to the Narrow Way, by moving this stop even further from the Narrow Way (to Morning Lane) might make the route unattractive to some 394 passengers as the walking distance is 230/260m (3 mins) away, which for some passengers is easy to walk but for others could be long and inconveniencing to their journey. The New Proposed Bus Stop at Darnley Road is (in my opinion) dumb and pointless, firstly the manoeuvre that the 394 has to make looks quite challenging as it has to crossover from the ahead over lane into the right turning lane for Richmond Road , and secondly it is just not needed I really don't think people will want to get on or off at this stop. If there is a desperate demand for this bus stop then it would make more sense to move it to Paragon Road so that it can be in the left turn only lane. (Maybe the 236 can join the 394 serving the new bus stop) I'm quite interested to see what happens with the entire scheme.
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Post by snoggle on Aug 26, 2014 14:43:58 GMT
Hmm - more broken links in the bus network. This is what happens when you remove bus lanes and squash buses along with all the other traffic. I reckon this might also be a way of lopping 1 bus off the PVR - checking the comparative running times for the 394 and 276 I reckon you just lose 12 mins off the round trip time for the 394 as a result of the proposed rerouting so this is really about a financial saving not a time saving for passengers. I can't imagine this proposal is going to go down very well with people. As much as I'm for the "cycling revolution" in London, I don't want to see Cycling being prioritised over Buses but after reading the TfL Cycle Vision I think precisely that is going to happen. Also TfL seems to think that introducing the "Cycle revolution" will reduce overcrowding on buses I did not know TfL were that good at righting jokes. Going slightly off topic there is a clearly held view by some of the cycling lobby that if you provide segregated bike lanes then people will desert their cars and the buses and transfer to bikes. This is because most journeys are short and therefore, in theory, eminently cyclable. I recently read an article by one of the prominent London cycle lobbyists which basically insulted bus users and who saw no great issue in buses being slowed down to make way for cycles. I'm afraid his attitude just cost the cycling lobby a supporter. Argument is fine, being insulted and sneered at for using buses is not.
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Post by vjaska on Aug 26, 2014 17:53:53 GMT
Anyone notice the contradiction in the article. One minute he says, "buses are large heavy objects & travel quite fast" and then the next, he says, "Buses are slow"
Well, make your mind up why don't you!
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Post by mondraker275 on Aug 27, 2014 9:41:02 GMT
What I will say is that the reasoning seems pathetic. Faster journey times from Homerton to Central London? Definitely agree with snoogle that there looking to make some sort of saving. One thing I shall write in my response is that for anyone who goes by Dalston Lane regularly will have seen the large housing developments being built. I am sure there will be a need for a service from there to Homerton which only the 394 can provide.
Remembered that the 242 goes there as well, but much longer way around.But could do with support of 394 anyway.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 29, 2014 13:08:21 GMT
London Buses had been doing various head count surveys over the past year since the Narrow Way closure at Hackney Central and Dalston Lane; which they had plan a few changes with some of the routes. I guess the 394 is a victim of this. Most of the day the 394 is not as busy over this section. The most people board is at the Hackney Central and Hackney Town Hall bus stops.
Even if many were against it, knowing they way TfL are, it would still go ahead.
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Post by routew15 on Mar 2, 2015 17:03:25 GMT
The results for the 394 consultation are in... TfL have decided to proceed with the proposals from 9 May 2015. Hackney council responded to the consultation and suggested "promoting the change around the town centre." I agree with this as the it could leave a lot of residents confused. I think these proposals will help the 394 avoid traffic that it does not need to be in. I hope longer buses are specified in the next contract. To see the Full consultation report click hereTo see the main issues raised click link here( Click here for the main consultation page)
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Post by snoggle on Mar 2, 2015 18:31:36 GMT
The results for the 394 consultation are in... TfL have decided to proceed with the proposals from 9 May 2015. Hackney council responded to the consultation and suggested "promoting the change around the town centre." I agree with this as the it could leave a lot of residents confused. I think these proposals will help the 394 avoid traffic that it does not need to be in. I hope longer buses are specified in the next contract. To see the Full consultation report click hereTo see the main issues raised click link here( Click here for the main consultation page) I'm shocked [1], shocked I tell you, that this is change is proceeding! [1] not at all shocked
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Post by T.R. on Mar 2, 2015 20:24:43 GMT
I responded in opposition, mainly because the proposed rerouting is already served by the 236. At least 276 maintains the link to Hackney Downs.
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