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Post by metrobusfan on Aug 28, 2014 21:50:13 GMT
Was they started one company or did different commonly have them
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Post by eggmiester on Aug 31, 2014 0:37:39 GMT
They were tendered services that were bid upon by operators like the normal LT/TFL routes were post privatisation.
Some of the bigger operators ran mobility routes like Selkent, First thamesway, capital citybus (later first capital), London General to name a few. But some smaller operators ran them as well, some the mobility routes were their only TFL services like javelin coaches who had a number of mobility routes in west London. Other small operators come to mind, such as Crystals of Crayford who had an extensive number of mobility routes across South and south East London, Thorpes, Kentish Bus, London Buslines etc.
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Post by vjaska on Aug 31, 2014 11:31:01 GMT
Is there anywhere which has information on the mobility routes. I had the 863 & 868 run through my area but I can't 100% remember the routings take took
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 17:01:40 GMT
Is there anywhere which has information on the mobility routes. I had the 863 & 868 run through my area but I can't 100% remember the routings take took Hi.... How long ago are we talking? |
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Post by vjaska on Aug 31, 2014 17:12:02 GMT
Is there anywhere which has information on the mobility routes. I had the 863 & 868 run through my area but I can't 100% remember the routings take took Hi.... How long ago are we talking? Mid to late 90's, I remember reading about them in the 1995 & 1996 issues of the Brixton bus guide. |
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Post by snoggle on Aug 31, 2014 18:06:07 GMT
Is there anywhere which has information on the mobility routes. I had the 863 & 868 run through my area but I can't 100% remember the routings take took The history of the Mobility Buses is very difficult as there were so many changes over the years. There's a Flickr group with some photos of some of the routes. Flickr photo groupWhen the Transport Committee got the patronage data from TfL it included lots of Mobility Bus routes. Despite doing lots of checks I have not managed to even put termini to some of the route numbers and I've gone back on the web and through old bus guides that I have. I haven't raked through all my TLBs as that would be a massive task and I don't need the info quite that much. If someone is trying to compile the history of those services then I feel sorry for them! |
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Post by vjaska on Aug 31, 2014 18:20:08 GMT
Is there anywhere which has information on the mobility routes. I had the 863 & 868 run through my area but I can't 100% remember the routings take took The history of the Mobility Buses is very difficult as there were so many changes over the years. There's a Flickr group with some photos of some of the routes. Flickr photo groupWhen the Transport Committee got the patronage data from TfL it included lots of Mobility Bus routes. Despite doing lots of checks I have not managed to even put termini to some of the route numbers and I've gone back on the web and through old bus guides that I have. I haven't raked through all my TLBs as that would be a massive task and I don't need the info quite that much. If someone is trying to compile the history of those services then I feel sorry for them! From memory, the 863 did Peckham to Brixton via Sidney Road & Robsart Street and the 868 ran from Brixton to Croydon via Streatham - they are the only two mobility routes I'd know the terminus of. I also remember the 861 running along Milkwood Road but have no idea of its terminus points. I'm really surprised that more info isn't available on these routes TBH. |
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Post by Unorm on Aug 31, 2014 18:35:48 GMT
Does anyone have any info on routes S11 and S13 (former routes)? I know they ran from East Dulwich Sainsbury's to (where-ever) via 37 and S11 via Rosendale Road and P13 then via G1. I saw this whilst looking at 115's history. |
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Post by vjaska on Aug 31, 2014 19:04:01 GMT
Does anyone have any info on routes S11 and S13 (former routes)? I know they ran from East Dulwich Sainsbury's to (where-ever) via 37 and S11 via Rosendale Road and P13 then via G1. I saw this whilst looking at 115's history.The S13 was an East Dulwich Sainsbury's circular route via Denmark Hill, Herne Hill, North Dulwich & East Dulwich in that direction only. From memory, it ran Monday to Saturday shopping hours only. No idea regarding the S11 but it looks like it was partially replaced a number of years later between West Norwood & East Dulwich, Sainsbury's by the short lived Saturday only P15 |
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Post by metrobusfan on Aug 31, 2014 20:20:51 GMT
They were tendered services that were bid upon by operators like the normal LT/TFL routes were post privatisation. Some of the bigger operators ran mobility routes like Selkent, First thamesway, capital citybus (later first capital), London General to name a few. But some smaller operators ran them as well, some the mobility routes were their only TFL services like javelin coaches who had a number of mobility routes in west London. Other small operators come to mind, such as Crystals of Crayford who had an extensive number of mobility routes across South and south East London, Thorpes, Kentish Bus, London Buslines etc. Didn't crystal have 2 or 3 of the 900s that ran in Croydon |
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Post by moz on Aug 31, 2014 20:29:07 GMT
Does anyone have any info on routes S11 and S13 (former routes)? I know they ran from East Dulwich Sainsbury's to (where-ever) via 37 and S11 via Rosendale Road and P13 then via G1. I saw this whilst looking at 115's history.The S13 was an East Dulwich Sainsbury's circular route via Denmark Hill, Herne Hill, North Dulwich & East Dulwich in that direction only. From memory, it ran Monday to Saturday shopping hours only. No idea regarding the S11 but it looks like it was partially replaced a number of years later between West Norwood & East Dulwich, Sainsbury's by the short lived Saturday only P15 As far as I can remember the S11 was an amalgam of two Sainsbury's bus routes running from the one in Streatham to the one in East Dulwich by quite a convoluted route. I know Kentish Bus ran it for quite a while using Metroriders interworked off the 42 and the buses' cabs were fitted with a special baseplate to carry both an LRT Wayfarer machine and an Almex 'A' machine. Very odd indeed! Moz |
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Post by Unorm on Aug 31, 2014 21:54:56 GMT
The S13 was an East Dulwich Sainsbury's circular route via Denmark Hill, Herne Hill, North Dulwich & East Dulwich in that direction only. From memory, it ran Monday to Saturday shopping hours only. No idea regarding the S11 but it looks like it was partially replaced a number of years later between West Norwood & East Dulwich, Sainsbury's by the short lived Saturday only P15 As far as I can remember the S11 was an amalgam of two Sainsbury's bus routes running from the one in Streatham to the one in East Dulwich by quite a convoluted route. I know Kentish Bus ran it for quite a while using Metroriders interworked off the 42 and the buses' cabs were fitted with a special baseplate to carry both an LRT Wayfarer machine and an Almex 'A' machine. Very odd indeed! Moz By looking at the map, it looks like it serves the full Valley Road and possibly then follows 249 and takes a left then follows straight on to the Sainsbury's. Thanks moz and vjaska for the info on those routes  |
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Post by Tangy on Sept 1, 2014 21:11:18 GMT
I have some archive mobility bus guides (in paper form) from the 1990s/early 200s if anyone needs the route numbers/termini.
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