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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 22:01:06 GMT
I don't know why a thread for this wasn't made earlier... I was just thinking and two things came to my mind: 1)If Scotland votes 'Yes', will this have an immediate effect? Or will it be weeks, months, or even a year before they become independent? 2)If it's immediately, how will this affect ADL orders? Will buses take longer to arrive? Will buses no longer have SN/L and YX/Y plates since that'll be a different country where they're registered? Here's what's going to happen next: www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/18/scottish-referendum-what-happens-after-polls-closeNone of the senior politicians are going to sleep tonight. Especially David Cameron, Ed Miliband, Nick Clegg, Alistair Darling, Gordon Brown and from the other side Alex Salmond.
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Post by vjaska on Sept 18, 2014 22:41:15 GMT
I don't know why a thread for this wasn't made earlier... I was just thinking and two things came to my mind: 1)If Scotland votes 'Yes', will this have an immediate effect? Or will it be weeks, months, or even a year before they become independent? 2)If it's immediately, how will this affect ADL orders? Will buses take longer to arrive? Will buses no longer have SN/L and YX/Y plates since that'll be a different country where they're registered? Here's what's going to happen next: www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/18/scottish-referendum-what-happens-after-polls-closeNone of the senior politicians are going to sleep tonight. Especially David Cameron, Ed Miliband, Nick Clegg, Alistair Darling, Gordon Brown and from the other side Alex Salmond. If Scotland votes yes, then there will be roughly around a year of 'divorce proceedings' where negotiations will take place to determine what assets Scotland can have and the amount of calculated debt it would need to take with them. One thing that won't happen is you won't need a passport to enter Scotland if they go independent lol. My own view is if Scotland votes yes, then I can see them collapsing in a few years. Even someone like myself who's not the greenest of people knows that the oil won't last forever and it seems it's future is being based on that one thing alone. We've already seen banks & companies like EDF concerned with the prospect of an independent Scotland and no doubt many more will follow their lead. Then we come to the currency issue - I can't see the Bank of England & Westminster allowing them to continue using sterling when they are in effect 'a foreign country'. I'm afraid Mr Sammon will have to drop his daft idea of a 'currency union' and either create a new currency or take the stupid route and adopt the Euro whilst reapplying to the European Union - an independent Scotland would not count as a European Union nation.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2014 5:23:11 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2014 5:29:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2014 6:10:04 GMT
David Cameron currently making a speech on all major news channels.
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Post by greeny253 on Sept 20, 2014 11:36:29 GMT
I'm pleased that Scotland has remained part of the union but if there's one thing that didn't surprise me was Alex Salmond resigning. I've been of the opinion from the off that if the referendum resulted in a no vote, then he wouldn't stand at the next general election. I didnt expect him to resign the day after a no vote!
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Post by vjaska on Sept 20, 2014 11:46:05 GMT
I'm pleased that Scotland has remained part of the union but if there's one thing that didn't surprise me was Alex Salmond resigning. I've been of the opinion from the off that if the referendum resulted in a no vote, then he wouldn't stand at the next general election. I didnt expect him to resign the day after a no vote! Thank goodness he has gone, Scotland doesn't need such a patronising man like him.
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Post by snoggle on Sept 20, 2014 12:45:39 GMT
I'm pleased that Scotland has remained part of the union but if there's one thing that didn't surprise me was Alex Salmond resigning. I've been of the opinion from the off that if the referendum resulted in a no vote, then he wouldn't stand at the next general election. I didnt expect him to resign the day after a no vote! If he hadn't resigned he would have been asked by every journalist several times a day "when are you going to resign?" or "you failed to achieve independence how can you possibly justify remaining in post as a failed First Minister?" or variants thereof. In short he couldn't sustain his position. If he had tried to stay a media campaign against him would have sprung up soon enough. It's how our "politics" work nowadays - the media decides who to attack next having stored up years of dubious "evidence" of wrong doing and hypocrisy. Going quickly gets him out of the way and allows others to have the debate / argument / fist fight to find the next leader. I also think he feels defeated and is naturally upset not to have achieved what he set out to do. The whole thing is turning into a ghastly mess with our wretched politicians falling over each other to score points and gain party political advantage. I'm struggling to see where us, the voters, fit into their self obsessed rantings. You do not change a constitution like ours in 7 months with no debate. This is a monstrous attempt to secure a long term political advantage for one party. That is wrong. That is what happens in dictatorships and I don't think we're one of those just yet.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 13:09:00 GMT
I'm so glad Scotland stayed part of the union, a yes vote would have been disastrous
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Post by John tuthill on Sept 20, 2014 13:09:50 GMT
I'm pleased that Scotland has remained part of the union but if there's one thing that didn't surprise me was Alex Salmond resigning. I've been of the opinion from the off that if the referendum resulted in a no vote, then he wouldn't stand at the next general election. I didnt expect him to resign the day after a no vote! Thank goodness he has gone, Scotland doesn't need such a patronising man like him. Tony Blair(ugh I've mention him ) must be disappointed. Obviously wanted to be their ambassador in England, and charge them the earth for using his house as the embassy
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Post by greeny253 on Sept 20, 2014 22:32:03 GMT
I'm pleased that Scotland has remained part of the union but if there's one thing that didn't surprise me was Alex Salmond resigning. I've been of the opinion from the off that if the referendum resulted in a no vote, then he wouldn't stand at the next general election. I didnt expect him to resign the day after a no vote! Thank goodness he has gone, Scotland doesn't need such a patronising man like him. Worth remembering that it was the people of Scotland who voted him in. I think the thing that went against him was the lack of any certainty over currency in an independent Scotland - don't think I ever saw him give a straight answer on that. Large companies saying they'd move south in the event of a yes vote probably didn't help his cause either as nobody is gonna vote yes if it means Scottish jobs being lost for Scottish workers. I'm pleased that Scotland has remained part of the union but if there's one thing that didn't surprise me was Alex Salmond resigning. I've been of the opinion from the off that if the referendum resulted in a no vote, then he wouldn't stand at the next general election. I didnt expect him to resign the day after a no vote! If he hadn't resigned he would have been asked by every journalist several times a day "when are you going to resign?" or "you failed to achieve independence how can you possibly justify remaining in post as a failed First Minister?" or variants thereof. In short he couldn't sustain his position. If he had tried to stay a media campaign against him would have sprung up soon enough. It's how our "politics" work nowadays - the media decides who to attack next having stored up years of dubious "evidence" of wrong doing and hypocrisy. Going quickly gets him out of the way and allows others to have the debate / argument / fist fight to find the next leader. I also think he feels defeated and is naturally upset not to have achieved what he set out to do. The whole thing is turning into a ghastly mess with our wretched politicians falling over each other to score points and gain party political advantage. I'm struggling to see where us, the voters, fit into their self obsessed rantings. You do not change a constitution like ours in 7 months with no debate. This is a monstrous attempt to secure a long term political advantage for one party. That is wrong. That is what happens in dictatorships and I don't think we're one of those just yet. Unfortunately yes the media would of been hounding him so I don't doubt that he's done the right thing in getting out of the firing line. I'll be interested to see where the SNP goes from here and what happens in Scotland at the next general election.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 20:09:51 GMT
If Scotland went independent how would it affect ADL bus orders? And would there no longer be any SN/SL and YX/YY plate vehicles?
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