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Post by 15002 on Apr 6, 2019 4:42:10 GMT
I’ve noticed there weren’t any hybrids that appeared for the N89 (aside from one EH that appeared for about 35 minutes) and the N279 on LVF. I thought they was supposed to convert to hybrid operation today?
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Post by sid on Apr 6, 2019 5:31:35 GMT
I’ve noticed there weren’t any hybrids that appeared for the N89 (aside from one EH that appeared for about 35 minutes) and the N279 on LVF. I thought they was supposed to convert to hybrid operation today? I think these changes start tomorrow night?
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Post by redexpress on Apr 6, 2019 8:12:49 GMT
I’ve noticed there weren’t any hybrids that appeared for the N89 (aside from one EH that appeared for about 35 minutes) and the N279 on LVF. I thought they was supposed to convert to hybrid operation today? Looks like Go-Ahead and Arriva have decided to do the allocation changes from tonight rather than last night. If it had been a change of contract they'd have had to start from last night (hence the N207 changing last night), but for an internal reallocation they can change on the Saturday night (or any other night I suppose) if they want to.
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Post by ronnie on Apr 6, 2019 8:31:47 GMT
Indeed, I imagine that's why 2401 has been drafted into WS. TfL can't officially cut the 207/607 back until they consult and there's no sign of the consultation so probably safe to say we still have a few months ahead of us until the routes are cut. Indeed - I'm quite pleased about this on a selfish level as it makes grabbing a good seat on the 607 much easier What was the original logic of cutting to Shepherd’s Bush (if there was one at all)?
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Post by rif153 on Apr 6, 2019 8:32:54 GMT
Indeed - I'm quite pleased about this on a selfish level as it makes grabbing a good seat on the 607 much easier What was the original logic of cutting to Shepherd’s Bush (if there was one at all)? Probably because buses carry fresh air between White City Bus Station and Shepherds Bus Station
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Post by sid on Apr 6, 2019 9:08:20 GMT
I’ve noticed there weren’t any hybrids that appeared for the N89 (aside from one EH that appeared for about 35 minutes) and the N279 on LVF. I thought they was supposed to convert to hybrid operation today? Looks like Go-Ahead and Arriva have decided to do the allocation changes from tonight rather than last night. If it had been a change of contract they'd have had to start from last night (hence the N207 changing last night), but for an internal reallocation they can change on the Saturday night (or any other night I suppose) if they want to. Presumably some reason why they've been left to the last minute whilst the N155 was done in advance?
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Post by vjaska on Apr 6, 2019 9:18:28 GMT
What was the original logic of cutting to Shepherd’s Bush (if there was one at all)? Probably because buses carry fresh air between White City Bus Station and Shepherds Bus Station The interesting thing is whilst your correct, it still seems an odd move - as I understand it, buses would continue to stand underneath White City so if it eventually is implemented, buses will still do the same route just out of service and shaving off a minute at best by not needing to serve the bus station.
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Post by routew15 on Apr 6, 2019 9:42:02 GMT
Probably because buses carry fresh air between White City Bus Station and Shepherds Bus Station The interesting thing is whilst your correct, it still seems an odd move - as I understand it, buses would continue to stand underneath White City so if it eventually is implemented, buses will still do the same route just out of service and shaving off a minute at best by not needing to serve the bus station. Does that not only apply in one direction? As Westbound buses can leave the stand and turn left straight into Ariel Way without having to serve the bus station.
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Post by rif153 on Apr 6, 2019 11:20:09 GMT
The interesting thing is whilst your correct, it still seems an odd move - as I understand it, buses would continue to stand underneath White City so if it eventually is implemented, buses will still do the same route just out of service and shaving off a minute at best by not needing to serve the bus station. Does that not only apply in one direction? As Westbound buses can leave the stand and turn left straight into Ariel Way without having to serve the bus station. I believe that westbound buses can turn right into the stand area thus not needing thus the 207/607 wouldn’t serve the bus station in either direction. It would be a nasty cut for TFL to make, as vjaska rightly points out, its for the sake of shaving one minute off the run time. White City Bus Station would seem like a white elephant if only some buses serve it. Whilst for the majority, the cut will not affect the, the less mobile will be badly hit by the cut as they’ll be left waiting at White City Bus Station for a bus to take them one stop to Shepherd’s Bush and then wait for another bus which seems ridiculous. I think that at the Shepherd’s Bush Station stop, drivers should check their bus to see if any passengers are staying onboard. If not then they should just be able to go straight to the stand, there’s no point in requiring operators to serve the last stop if there’s no one to drop off and it just means buses have to go back and forth
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Post by kmkcheng on Apr 6, 2019 11:25:49 GMT
What was the original logic of cutting to Shepherd’s Bush (if there was one at all)? Probably because buses carry fresh air between White City Bus Station and Shepherds Bus Station Because it wouldn’t have to serve White City Bus station, it actually will reduce the PVR by 1.
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Post by redexpress on Apr 6, 2019 11:59:14 GMT
Looks like Go-Ahead and Arriva have decided to do the allocation changes from tonight rather than last night. If it had been a change of contract they'd have had to start from last night (hence the N207 changing last night), but for an internal reallocation they can change on the Saturday night (or any other night I suppose) if they want to. Presumably some reason why they've been left to the last minute whilst the N155 was done in advance? Just a guess, but could be something to do with doing the 88 and N155 allocation changes at the same time, given both affect the same garage (SW) - perhaps it's more convenient to implement the two new schedules at the garage at the same time.
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Post by M1104 on Apr 6, 2019 12:26:43 GMT
Presumably some reason why they've been left to the last minute whilst the N155 was done in advance? Just a guess, but could be something to do with doing the 88 and N155 allocation changes at the same time, given both affect the same garage (SW) - perhaps it's more convenient to implement the two new schedules at the garage at the same time. ...as well as dealing with the 87/N87 changes
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Post by vjaska on Apr 6, 2019 17:31:34 GMT
The interesting thing is whilst your correct, it still seems an odd move - as I understand it, buses would continue to stand underneath White City so if it eventually is implemented, buses will still do the same route just out of service and shaving off a minute at best by not needing to serve the bus station. Does that not only apply in one direction? As Westbound buses can leave the stand and turn left straight into Ariel Way without having to serve the bus station. I believe it’s in both directions as you pass the stand on the way to White City as well.
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Post by snowman on Apr 8, 2019 20:40:19 GMT
New London Service Permit is out content.tfl.gov.uk/lsp-bulletin.pdfCT Plus are changing route 812 Tower Transit are planning to operate a heritage service to Kew Gardens from Covent Garden Various sightseeing tour bus changes
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Post by WSD3 on Apr 12, 2019 17:32:27 GMT
The permanent bus document was supposed to be updated today but it hasn't
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