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Post by E279 on Aug 12, 2019 22:21:24 GMT
Route 296 is getting a frequency increase from 31/08/19! I assume a few more single deckers will be required however it can take double deckers. The 86/247 had a full E400 allocation, I wonder if the 2 transferred E400s are for the 296s increase.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Aug 12, 2019 22:24:40 GMT
Route 296 is getting a frequency increase from 31/08/19! I assume a few more single deckers will be required however it can take double deckers. The 86/247 had a full E400 allocation, I wonder if the 2 transferred E400s are for the 296s increase. hmm, I wonder if this will affect the interworking it's meant to have with the 396. Currently both routes are every 20 to provide an every 10 service between Ilford and Little Heath. I'm sure there's some spare E200s knocking about somewhere
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Post by E279 on Aug 12, 2019 22:31:57 GMT
Route 296 is getting a frequency increase from 31/08/19! I assume a few more single deckers will be required however it can take double deckers. The 86/247 had a full E400 allocation, I wonder if the 2 transferred E400s are for the 296s increase. hmm, I wonder if this will affect the interworking it's meant to have with the 396. Currently both routes are every 20 to provide an every 10 service between Ilford and Little Heath. I'm sure there's some spare E200s knocking about somewhere There is also the 314 which uses 10.2m buses which is getting an increase and Stagecoach don't have many 10.2m spares. I think it'll probably use E400s, they had no issue with having the 396s spare as a decker under Stagecoach. The recent full allocation of deckers on the 396 along with possibly 2-3 deckers seen on the 296 in future will greatly help Ilford to be fair as it gets insanely busy on the 396 and 296 and having the 396 fully decker in my opinion has helped the loads out massively.
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Post by evergreenadam on Aug 13, 2019 3:45:04 GMT
hmm, I wonder if this will affect the interworking it's meant to have with the 396. Currently both routes are every 20 to provide an every 10 service between Ilford and Little Heath. I'm sure there's some spare E200s knocking about somewhere There is also the 314 which uses 10.2m buses which is getting an increase and Stagecoach don't have many 10.2m spares. I think it'll probably use E400s, they had no issue with having the 396s spare as a decker under Stagecoach. The recent full allocation of deckers on the 396 along with possibly 2-3 deckers seen on the 296 in future will greatly help Ilford to be fair as it gets insanely busy on the 396 and 296 and having the 396 fully decker in my opinion has helped the loads out massively. When did the 396 get double decked?
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Post by snowman on Aug 13, 2019 5:54:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 6:46:03 GMT
There is also the 314 which uses 10.2m buses which is getting an increase and Stagecoach don't have many 10.2m spares. I think it'll probably use E400s, they had no issue with having the 396s spare as a decker under Stagecoach. The recent full allocation of deckers on the 396 along with possibly 2-3 deckers seen on the 296 in future will greatly help Ilford to be fair as it gets insanely busy on the 396 and 296 and having the 396 fully decker in my opinion has helped the loads out massively. When did the 396 get double decked? It is unofficially double decker whilst its buses are used most days on the 364. I think it will revert to E200 once the new buses arrive for the 364. I think double deckers on the 296,396 and 66 would be a bit excessive IMO.
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Post by busoccultation on Aug 13, 2019 7:57:29 GMT
Route 296 is getting a frequency increase from 31/08/19! I assume a few more single deckers will be required however it can take double deckers. The 86/247 had a full E400 allocation, I wonder if the 2 transferred E400s are for the 296s increase. Great to see another frequency increase along the A12 corridor along with the recent increase of the 66, might make the corridor a bit more reliable and more useable as a passenger at the same time as well Would also like to see a full DD conversion on the 296 when it comes to its contract renewal next year.
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Post by 15002 on Aug 13, 2019 11:43:58 GMT
Route 296 is getting a frequency increase from 31/08/19! I assume a few more single deckers will be required however it can take double deckers. The 86/247 had a full E400 allocation, I wonder if the 2 transferred E400s are for the 296s increase. Great to see another frequency increase along the A12 corridor along with the recent increase of the 66, might make the corridor a bit more reliable and more useable as a passenger at the same time as well Would also like to see a full DD conversion on the 296 when it comes to its contract renewal next year. I want a full DD conversation too alongside Hybrids so that the 128 and other routes there could use them at NS
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Post by evergreenadam on Aug 13, 2019 13:36:41 GMT
Route 296 is getting a frequency increase from 31/08/19! I assume a few more single deckers will be required however it can take double deckers. The 86/247 had a full E400 allocation, I wonder if the 2 transferred E400s are for the 296s increase. Great to see another frequency increase along the A12 corridor along with the recent increase of the 66, might make the corridor a bit more reliable and more useable as a passenger at the same time as well Would also like to see a full DD conversion on the 296 when it comes to its contract renewal next year. What the main demand flows? Towards the Central tube stations in the AM peak? Interesting that the 296 will not get a frequency increase on Saturdays.
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Post by LVF_Admin on Aug 13, 2019 19:57:03 GMT
Great to see another frequency increase along the A12 corridor along with the recent increase of the 66, might make the corridor a bit more reliable and more useable as a passenger at the same time as well Would also like to see a full DD conversion on the 296 when it comes to its contract renewal next year. What the main demand flows? Towards the Central tube stations in the AM peak? Interesting that the 296 will not get a frequency increase on Saturdays. Don't forget the 314 is also getting a frequency increase and bus(es) have to come from somewhere
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 20:07:27 GMT
Something I noticed a few weeks ago when I was near the A12 was like most routes the timetable on the 66 and 296 (And probably the 396 on that section) is not very well coordinated so you will have a nearly empty 66 then a rammed E200 on the 296. I can't imagine all the passengers on the 296 were heading to Ilford.... I think resources could saved it operators were made to work together on timetables, I know routes on corridors like this run at different frequencies but sure something could be done.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Aug 13, 2019 20:16:26 GMT
Something I noticed a few weeks ago when I was near the A12 was like most routes the timetable on the 66 and 296 (And probably the 396 on that section) is not very well coordinated so you will have a nearly empty 66 then a rammed E200 on the 296. I can't imagine all the passengers on the 296 were heading to Ilford.... I think resources could saved it operators were made to work together on timetables, I know routes on corridors like this run at different frequencies but sure something could be done. Back when the 396 was with Stagecoach generally a quite steady every 10 service would be provided working together with the 296. I'm not too sure if GAL have changed the times but looking at it there isn't a bang on every 10 service but it's close to one. However the 296 and 396 are probably helped by the fact both routes are low frequency so run to set times. It could be quite a bit harder on a corridor such as the 128/150 where despite both routes have exactly the same frequency they have to run on headways meaning if one bus on the 150 for example gets delayed it will subsequently delay any 150s behind it while the 128s will continue to catch up leading to them running together. This particular corridor's interworking will probably become almost non-existent when the 128 goes to Stagecoach.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 20:24:27 GMT
Something I noticed a few weeks ago when I was near the A12 was like most routes the timetable on the 66 and 296 (And probably the 396 on that section) is not very well coordinated so you will have a nearly empty 66 then a rammed E200 on the 296. I can't imagine all the passengers on the 296 were heading to Ilford.... I think resources could saved it operators were made to work together on timetables, I know routes on corridors like this run at different frequencies but sure something could be done. Back when the 396 was with Stagecoach generally a quite steady every 10 service would be provided working together with the 296. I'm not too sure if GAL have changed the times but looking at it there isn't a bang on every 10 service but it's close to one. However the 296 and 396 are probably helped by the fact both routes are low frequency so run to set times. It could be quite a bit harder on a corridor such as the 128/150 where despite both routes have exactly the same frequency they have to run on headways meaning if one bus on the 150 for example gets delayed it will subsequently delay any 150s behind it while the 128s will continue to catch up leading to them running together. This particular corridor's interworking will probably become almost non-existent when the 128 goes to Stagecoach. I can never get my head around headways! So buses don't overtake delayed buses? I see the 277 a fair bit and know that runs to headway and seems like bus as bus after bus every few minutes.
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Post by george on Aug 13, 2019 21:59:05 GMT
Nice use of a Arriva bus image lol GR to run the service with ALX400s!
(I know the service is run by AF)
I wonder if the 485 would have stayed at AF if this service didn't run.
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Post by abc on Aug 15, 2019 17:00:28 GMT
Another I indication that routing through Victoria Bus Station is being restored soon: Ibus used to show Neathouse Place for Victoria Station. It now does not mention the station.
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