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Post by M1104 on Oct 31, 2014 2:58:47 GMT
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Post by M1199 on Oct 31, 2014 8:20:52 GMT
As long as it's not done at major junctions, pelican/puffin crossings and accident hot spots, I'd say do it. Treat every junction like a roundabout, it'd make drivers pay more attention.
Waiting at a set of red lights for nothing, is, along with black cabs, one of the biggest bug bears I have about driving.
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Post by M1104 on Oct 31, 2014 10:45:12 GMT
As long as it's not done at major junctions, pelican/puffin crossings and accident hot spots, I'd say do it. Treat every junction like a roundabout, it'd make drivers pay more attention. Waiting at a set of red lights for nothing, is, along with black cabs, one of the biggest bug bears I have about driving. I agree with the above, but instead of them being switched off I think they should switch to flash mode like they do in most American cities from 1am to 6am. An example of this would be Garrat Lane junction with Burntwood Lane, where the traffic lights facing the latter would flash red, thus treated as a stop sign. The lights facing Garrett Lane would have a slow speed flashing amber so as show distinction from when pelican crossings do the same. The main traffic lights outside Tooting Broadway station would be an example that would continue working normally as they do now. Any traffic lights that stop working due to a fault, day or night, should also switch to flash mode...pedestrian lights in this mode flashing on red. |
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Post by vjaska on Oct 31, 2014 11:15:43 GMT
Just to point out, it would only happen between midnight and 12am - that said, it is still a ridiculous idea unless junctions are properly reviewed. What should be done instead is reduce the number of traffic lights in London full stop as we have far too many which are causing traffic jams.
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Post by londonbusboy on Oct 31, 2014 12:10:59 GMT
This sounds like a stupid, dangerous idea and it's going to be a disaster in Central London during weekends mostly. It would make sense if traffic lights in less busy/lively places were switched off instead. Speaking of traffic lights, I think something should be done about the traffic light on Lewis Grove in Lewisham. It only turns green for about 8 - 10 seconds then stays red for five years and it's so annoying! During weekdays, there's always a long queue of buses waiting to get past the traffic light and sometimes it ends up causing traffic and mayhem at the Molesworth Street/Lewisham High Street junction (the part where all the buses enter the buses only road for Lewisham Centre). I've noticed those lights tend to only let 3 buses through them before changing. Its not necessarily the traffic lights causing the queue in the high street its the cars on the main road blocking the junction up. There really needs to be a yellow box there. |
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Post by routew15 on Oct 31, 2014 15:49:52 GMT
With all the talk about strengthening/increasing the night economy in London, I think this would be a step backwards, espically if these proposals are considered in Central London. Also the time savings are so minor that the question to then ask is Where are people rushing to at night that they need to save 53 seconds of time ?
Night travel is already significantly faster than daytime travel, so the savings are seriously minimal. The problem that should be addressed is How can we improved traffic flow for pedestrians and vehicles during the day?
If time desperately needs to be saved then maybe Traffic Lights should have a separate 'night time' phase introduced, which reduces the time of the green phase for the arms on the junction that are not used as often. This would work in excellent tandem with improved sensors detecting if a vehicle is present or not at the junction.
Additionally, I think that if the lights of the junction are switched off at night the junction should be raised so that speeds across the junction are reduced and more caution is taken by all vehicles through the junction.
In my opinion, the one positive from the proposals is that each junction may be looked at individually.
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Post by vjaska on Oct 31, 2014 16:03:21 GMT
With all the talk about strengthening/increasing the night economy in London, I think this would be a step backwards, espically if these proposals are considered in Central London. Also the time savings are so minor that the question to then ask is Where are people rushing to at night that they need to save 53 seconds of time ? Night travel is already significantly faster than daytime travel, so the savings are seriously minimal. The problem that should be addressed is How can we improved traffic flow for pedestrians and vehicles during the day?If time desperately needs to be saved then maybe Traffic Lights should have a separate 'night time' phase introduced, which reduces the time of the green phase for the arms on the junction that are not used as often. This would work in excellent tandem with improved sensors detecting if a vehicle is present or not at the junction. Additionally, I think that if the lights of the junction are switched off at night the junction should be raised so that speeds across the junction are reduced and more caution is taken by all vehicles through the junction. In my opinion, the one positive from the proposals is that each junction may be looked at individually. When you say 'raised', do you mean create a speed hump on the pedestrian crossing bit of the traffic lights like what is installed in some town centres? If so, I'd be dead against that - I'm not a massive of speed humps anywhere or chicane style traffic calming measures like on Southcroft Road in Tooting as I think they cause more danger than good. Reduced speeds on small, minor roads I think is a better way but I'd certainly not advise on the stupid 20mph wide borough speed limits like in Islington & Camden. |
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Post by M1104 on Nov 5, 2014 17:20:22 GMT
Not entirely relevant to the subject but the traffic lights outside Brixton station now change green differently...via red and amber instead of flashing amber. Only realized this earlier on today.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2014 21:18:23 GMT
Just to point out, it would only happen between midnight and 12am - that said, it is still a ridiculous idea unless junctions are properly reviewed. What should be done instead is reduce the number of traffic lights in London full stop as we have far too many which are causing traffic jams. Midnight and 12am are exactly the same.   |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2014 21:20:49 GMT
Big junctions shouldn't get their traffic lights turned off but a lot of suburban traffic lights are unnecessary during the night. That said, if they are turned off there needs to be adequate lighting for pedestrians crossing.
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Post by vjaska on Nov 5, 2014 22:34:08 GMT
Just to point out, it would only happen between midnight and 12am - that said, it is still a ridiculous idea unless junctions are properly reviewed. What should be done instead is reduce the number of traffic lights in London full stop as we have far too many which are causing traffic jams. Midnight and 12am are exactly the same. Lol, whoops meant 6am, thanks for spotting |
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Post by vjaska on Nov 5, 2014 22:35:45 GMT
Not entirely relevant to the subject but the traffic lights outside Brixton station now change green differently...via red and amber instead of flashing amber. Only realized this earlier on today. They changed it so they can finally switch on the countdown for those lights - they installed it months ago and only bothered to switch it on this week. Now I get longer to cross the road lol. |
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