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Post by routew15 on Feb 13, 2015 23:23:46 GMT
Found this on Facebook Attachment DeletedAttachment DeletedTfl is placing a block closure on the Victoria Line this summer in order to commence and complete tunnel upgrade works. The closure is expected to occur between the 8th & 30th of August 2015. Nearly 4 years after the line upgrade of the Victoria Line, it has reached full frequencies capacity already! My question would be, what can/will TfL do while Crossrail 2 makes it way? It's a long wait until 2030 and the capacity problems are not going to disappear anytime soon. Although the paragraph doesn't mention it, I'm sure these works will also benefit the Night Tube Service. It is about time more trains head to Walthamstow. Most trains that continue to W'stow tend to be way busier than Seven Sisters only services. Looking forward to Replacement express buses from W'stow to Stratford. |
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Post by TA1 on Feb 13, 2015 23:44:39 GMT
Found this on Facebook View AttachmentView AttachmentTfl is placing a block closure on the Victoria Line this summer in order to commence and complete tunnel upgrade works. The closure is expected to occur between the 8th & 30th of August 2015. Nearly 4 years after the line upgrade of the Victoria Line, it has reached full frequencies capacity already! My question would be, what can/will TfL do while Crossrail 2 makes it way? It's a long wait until 2030 and the capacity problems are not going to disappear anytime soon. Although the paragraph doesn't mention it, I'm sure these works will also benefit the Night Tube Service. It is about time more trains head to Walthamstow. Most trains that continue to W'stow tend to be way busier than Seven Sisters only services. Looking forward to Replacement express buses from W'stow to Stratford. The track replacement includes the the replacement of the scissor crossing South of the terminus. Which was due to be replaced many years ago, but the plan never formulated. Cannot remember the actual reason. Some more Seven Sisters terminators will be extended to Walthamstow; as you may be aware. As for the rail replacement, I suspect the routing will be via Markhouse road, Lea Bridge Road, Orient Way, temple mills lane to stand at Stratford city. Walthamstow is crying out for a direct train service to Stratford, come on Hall Farm curve. |
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Post by routew15 on Feb 14, 2015 0:06:54 GMT
As for the rail replacement, I suspect the routing will be via Markhouse road, Lea Bridge Road, Orient Way, temple mills lane to stand at Stratford city. Walthamstow is crying out for a direct train service to Stratford, come on Hall Farm curve.I agree. However, I don't think the Hall Farm Curve will return unless it is included in the Crossrail 2 Bill. The same way the London Borough of Waltham Forest supported the reopening of Lea Bridge station, I hope the push even harder for the reinstatement of the Hall Farm Curve. Without the Hall Farm Curve I don't think Lea Bridge Station will reach its fully potential.  |
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Post by TA1 on Feb 14, 2015 0:38:34 GMT
As for the rail replacement, I suspect the routing will be via Markhouse road, Lea Bridge Road, Orient Way, temple mills lane to stand at Stratford city. Walthamstow is crying out for a direct train service to Stratford, come on Hall Farm curve.I agree. However, I don't think the Hall Farm Curve will return unless it is included in the Crossrail 2 Bill. The same way the London Borough of Waltham Forest supported the reopening of Lea Bridge station, I hope the push even harder for the reinstatement of the Hall Farm Curve. Without the Hall Farm Curve I don't think Lea Bridge Station will reach its fully potential. Not necessarily, perhaps funding could be acquired in lieu of the STAR improvements, Stratford - Angel Road improvements. Just this week, I've read tweets stating that the re-development of Lea Bridge Station has been delayed but due to being tied with work commitments, I haven't read into the information in depth. With the reduction in carriageway on Hoe Street even further, it is expected that the Bus journies along the A112 Corridor will slow down even more, as they have in the last few years. I hope the chingford line rail user group, lobby for improvements similar to BGORUG have done so. In relation to the potential of Lea Bridge station, it could be popular with workers around the local industrial estate. An increase in frequency In the form of the STAR shuttle might increase patronage on a service that desperately needs increasing but is at full capacity. Hopefully after the Great Eastern Metro services (Abellio Greater Anglia Metro) services go to Crossrail and operate a through service under Liverpool Street, the existing paths could be used by more WA devices via Stratford. |
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Post by snoggle on Feb 14, 2015 11:57:57 GMT
Thanks for the info from Stella Creasy. Looks like there will be an enormous number of rail replacement buses running around. What's the bet that Waltham Forest decide to remodel the bridge and junction at Hoe St near the Central at exactly the same time?   Such a shame that TfL didn't bother to keep a bus link to Seven Sisters from the Walthamstow area. They could have strengthened that instead of running quite so many rail replacement buses and having to add a special bus from Chingford! In terms of the line via Lea Bridge then a few things to say. 1. There have been objections to the new station from three freight operators. This is apparently pretty standard form but Network Rail have to deal with the issues before the building work can start. 2. If the building work does not start soon then it risks being late and at least two sources of finance (from the DfT and S106 Olympics money) will be lost. Both expire at the end of 2015. A council meeting due in Jan was postponed at the last minute and hasn't been re-arranged AFAIK. It's all beginning to look very risky to me. 3. When TfL did the modelling work for the STAR proposals to add tracks the option of adding the Hall Farm Curve and a Chingford service did not have a business case. Therefore it is not in scope. I think this is barmy but there you go. I told my contact at TfL that it was barmy too! 4. Bizarrely Network Rail are consulting on a new East Anglia Connectivity proposal. This includes the reopening of the Hall Farm Curve and a Stratford to Chingford service (see page 51 of the document). 5. Also in the Connectivity document is a long term proposal to route the Stansted Express service through Stratford and for the tracks west of Stratford at Bow Junction to be remodelled to allow the Stansted Express to flyover the GEML tracks. This uses space given up once Crossrail removes a lot of slow line traffic west of Stratford. Lots of fun stuff to think about. Let's hope we do eventually get a Chingford to Stratford rail service - it'll be packed out from day one I'm sure. |
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Post by snoggle on Feb 17, 2015 19:20:05 GMT
TfL have now put out a press release about the Summer works on the Vic Line. |
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Post by routew15 on Jun 20, 2015 18:37:15 GMT
All change for the car line diagram on the Victoria Line Full article here source: stationmasterapp.com |
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Post by Nathan on Jun 20, 2015 20:12:20 GMT
All change for the car line diagram on the Victoria Line Full article here source: stationmasterapp.com The article says that replacement buses will be used for the duration of the works. I wonder where the buses will be sourced from. |
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Post by snoggle on Jun 20, 2015 20:55:51 GMT
The article says that replacement buses will be used for the duration of the works. I wonder where the buses will be sourced from. The 558 from Chingford Mount to Seven Sisters has been won by Metroline. No idea about other routes. I'd hazard a guess that VPs kicked off the 6 and 98 could usefully be deployed on the 558 - assuming the VWHs get into service quickly. Wild speculation mode might involve spare deckers held by Stagecoach and Abellio plus whatever is spare from school duties during August. That might mean a last gasp by Arriva DLAs, DWs and Sullivan's fleet. Given there is an intensive Walthamstow to Seven Sisters service plus a service to Stratford there are a lot of buses needed to run a satisfactory frequency. |
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Post by LX09FBJ on Jun 20, 2015 22:52:23 GMT
All change for the car line diagram on the Victoria Line Full article here source: stationmasterapp.com The article says that replacement buses will be used for the duration of the works. I wonder where the buses will be sourced from. As mentioned, above Metroline have been awarded temporary route 558. I'm guessing either VPs ex AC or TPs and TPLs ex HT and/or PB might be used The deployment of I imgaine various routes that run parallel/near to the line will also gain extra buses. Would be nice to see some DLAs on the 2! |
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Post by vjaska on Jun 20, 2015 22:59:30 GMT
The article says that replacement buses will be used for the duration of the works. I wonder where the buses will be sourced from. As mentioned, above Metroline have been awarded temporary route 558. I'm guessing either VPs ex AC or TPs and TPLs ex HT and/or PB might be used The deployment of I imgaine various routes that run parallel/near to the line will also gain extra buses. Would be nice to see some DLAs on the 2! The Brixton end won't be closed - that's the only time the 2 has extras running. |
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Post by snoggle on Jun 29, 2015 9:17:05 GMT
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Post by snoggle on Jul 22, 2015 9:57:56 GMT
Just had a letter and leaflet pop through the letter box about the 558 bus service. Seems it runs throughout the service day (0530-0115) Monday to Friday only. It serves all stops from Chingford Mount to Blackhorse Road and then runs express to Seven Sisters calling only at T Hale (Ferry Lane, not the bus station). It does a loop via Broad Lane and the High Rd. Sets down at the 41's stop near Tescos on Broad Lane for SS and starts opposite Tescos on the High Road. It seems TfL are predicting that the line into Liverpool St will be horrendously busy weekdays so want people north of Forest Road to use the 558 to Seven Sisters. While it's nice to get the leaflet the 558 is far too far away to be a remotely practical option. It'd be at least 25 minutes walk and in that time I could walk to Blackhorse Road or well past Walthamstow Central. The other amusing thing about the leaflet is that it has a LHD Enviro 400 on the front with Metroline blue skirt livery!  |
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Post by snoggle on Jul 25, 2015 9:20:14 GMT
Looks like TfL are now tweaking the arrangements and / or leaving the really bad news to the last minute. Checking the travel advice page again last night the following has emerged. These changes apply 10-28 August. I assume the first two points below apply M-F but the advice doesn't say so!!! - St James St Station is exit only until 0930 - Chingford Line trains will not stop at Clapton before 0930. No word about any replacement services. I can't see this being acceptable unless AGA trains stop instead. - AGA trains will not stop at Edmonton Green during AM peak hours. - Trains are retimed 2 mins earlier in the AM Peak at Chingford, Highams Park and Wood Street. Presumably to give a longer dwell time at Walthamstow Central. - Enfield Town/Bush Hill Park departures are earlier in the AM peak. Presumably to give an increased dwell time at Edmonton Green. Apparently more detailed advice will be added. TfL are leaving this rather late for people to understand what's going on and making alternative arrangements.  It seems the Rail Replacement Buses will be leaving from the Station Car Park at Walthamstow Central. Route A will also stop at Hoe St (by the new shops / cinema). |
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Post by thesquirrels on Jul 25, 2015 9:39:08 GMT
Looks like TfL are now tweaking the arrangements and / or leaving the really bad news to the last minute. Checking the travel advice page again last night the following has emerged. These changes apply 10-28 August. I assume the first two points below apply M-F but the advice doesn't say so!!! - St James St Station is exit only until 0930 - Chingford Line trains will not stop at Clapton before 0930. No word about any replacement services. I can't see this being acceptable unless AGA trains stop instead. - AGA trains will not stop at Edmonton Green during AM peak hours. - Trains are retimed 2 mins earlier in the AM Peak at Chingford, Highams Park and Wood Street. Presumably to give a longer dwell time at Walthamstow Central. - Enfield Town/Bush Hill Park departures are earlier in the AM peak. Presumably to give an increased dwell time at Edmonton Green. Apparently more detailed advice will be added. TfL are leaving this rather late for people to understand what's going on and making alternative arrangements. It seems the Rail Replacement Buses will be leaving from the Station Car Park at Walthamstow Central. Route A will also stop at Hoe St (by the new shops / cinema). Struggling to think of what AGA could actually stop at Clapton, even if it was willing. The handful of Hertford East / Broxbourne starters that don't run via Seven Sisters in the peaks would be about it. Can't see them being prepared to stop Cambridge / Stansted trains there. |
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