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Post by snoggle on Apr 20, 2015 15:53:35 GMT
I've never done the R70 right to Hampton so here's a "clueless" question.  Why does the R70 only go round Hampton Nurserylands in a one direction loop? It must be irritating if you need to make a local trip at Nurserylands in the opposite direction to the loop. A whizz round in Streetview doesn't show any obvious issues other than some parked cars on some roads. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 17:13:50 GMT
The current routing has evolved since the original 270's conversion to the "Harrier" R70. It soon gained an extension from Fernely Cres stand to Hanworth Fir Road via Oak Avenue.
The residents of Fir Road, one being very vocal, made many complaints about the sudden massive increase in use of this stand, otherwise only used for short workings on the 111 ( Hanworth Swan).
With no other alternative stand available , the original one direction loop began, which emitted Acacia Road, instead going direct from Buckingham Road into Nightengale Lane then left into Hanworth Road.
Next change , again due to public in Nightingale Lane moaning, was to send it down acacia and then the very sharp left into hanworth road.
And so its remained ever since.
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Post by snoggle on Apr 20, 2015 17:24:58 GMT
The current routing has evolved since the original 270's conversion to the "Harrier" R70. It soon gained an extension from Fernely Cres stand to Hanworth Fir Road via Oak Avenue. The residents of Fir Road, one being very vocal, made many complaints about the sudden massive increase in use of this stand, otherwise only used for short workings on the 111 ( Hanworth Swan). With no other alternative stand available , the original one direction loop began, which emitted Acacia Road, instead going direct from Buckingham Road into Nightengale Lane then left into Hanworth Road. Next change , again due to public in Nightingale Lane moaning, was to send it down acacia and then the very sharp left into hanworth road. And so its remained ever since. So the answer is to have the moany locals eliminated?  I did sort of wonder if the locals had complained about buses. Some of the houses give that sort of vibe and it's noticeable that stops are very widely spaced - especially where the newer houses are on Fearnley Crescent. You could have at least two more stops along there to reduce walking distances from houses to stops. |
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Post by LX09FBJ on Apr 20, 2015 17:49:06 GMT
If I recall correctly, there was at least one painted over bus stop 'box' around Oak Avenue. I do see the problem of the one way loop, especially if you live on Fearnley Crescent and Oak Avenue. One idea would be to send alternating buses round the loop (one clockwise and one anti-clockwise) though you would end up with one bus every 20 minutes per loop. Another alternative would be a new route from Heathrow/Hatton Cross via Feltham (where there is no direct bus from 'North' and 'West' Hampton/Nurserylands) and then round the R70 loop in reverse.
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Post by snoggle on Apr 20, 2015 18:24:26 GMT
If I recall correctly, there was at least one painted over bus stop 'box' around Oak Avenue. I do see the problem of the one way loop, especially if you live on Fearnley Crescent and Oak Avenue. One idea would be to send alternating buses round the loop (one clockwise and one anti-clockwise) though you would end up with one bus every 20 minutes per loop. Another alternative would be a new route from Heathrow/Hatton Cross via Feltham (where there is no direct bus from 'North' and 'West' Hampton/Nurserylands) and then round the R70 loop in reverse. I like your link from Hatton Cross idea. That could be an interesting addition to the network and would get people to both Feltham Station and Hatton Cross for the tube (assuming it followed 295/490 and H25 before reaching Hampton). |
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Post by westhamgeezer on Apr 20, 2015 18:31:46 GMT
If I recall correctly, there was at least one painted over bus stop 'box' around Oak Avenue. I do see the problem of the one way loop, especially if you live on Fearnley Crescent and Oak Avenue. One idea would be to send alternating buses round the loop (one clockwise and one anti-clockwise) though you would end up with one bus every 20 minutes per loop. Another alternative would be a new route from Heathrow/Hatton Cross via Feltham (where there is no direct bus from 'North' and 'West' Hampton/Nurserylands) and then round the R70 loop in reverse. I like your link from Hatton Cross idea. That could be an interesting addition to the network and would get people to both Feltham Station and Hatton Cross for the tube (assuming it followed 295/490 and H25 before reaching Hampton). Has the 295 been dramatically extended whilst I was asleep??  Assume you meant 290  That idea is quite good, there is a lot of potential I think of more direct links to the tube |
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Post by snoggle on Apr 20, 2015 18:42:10 GMT
I like your link from Hatton Cross idea. That could be an interesting addition to the network and would get people to both Feltham Station and Hatton Cross for the tube (assuming it followed 295/490 and H25 before reaching Hampton). Has the 295 been dramatically extended whilst I was asleep?? Assume you meant 290 That idea is quite good, there is a lot of potential I think of more direct links to the tube 285 actually.  I did consider looping the H25 round Nurserylands but that would extend journey times for existing users which would be an instant disbenefit in the business case. I suppose the new route could, after looping Nurserylands head to Sunbury Tescos so it stands there rather than on the loop. It gives a link to shops and some new local links which don't require people to change buses. Frequencies could be fairly modest early on to see how things go. Hatton Cross - Feltham Station - Uxbridge Road - Hounslow Road - Swan Road - Nurserylands Loop clockwise - Main Street - route 290 - Sunbury - Sunbury Tescos. 10m long single decks, x20 M-S peaks and daytimes, x30 evenings and Sundays. Hopefully that would cause too much distress in Hampton. |
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Why does the R70 only go round Hampton Nurserylands in a one direction loop? It must be irritating if you need to make a local trip at Nurserylands in the opposite direction to the loop. A whizz round in Streetview doesn't show any obvious issues other than some parked cars on some roads.
I did sort of wonder if the locals had complained about buses. Some of the houses give that sort of vibe and it's noticeable that stops are very widely spaced - especially where the newer houses are on Fearnley Crescent. You could have at least two more stops along there to reduce walking distances from houses to stops.
Assume you meant 290 
That idea is quite good, there is a lot of potential I think of more direct links to the tube