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Post by John tuthill on Apr 29, 2015 7:50:33 GMT
Sutton and Carshalton seats should be retained by the Lib Dems. Tom Brake who is the MP for Carshalton is a very good MP in my opinion. I follow him on twitter and he follows me and I have spoken to him a few times. NB// He campaigned for the re-introduction of route N213 to Croydon, but managed to get Route 154 to operate later. Albeit in the wrong direction lol, but I did go to him with regards another issue getting home from Sutton - Purley overnight. Takes three buses (N44. 264 & N68ike a freebie). The connection time at Mitcham from N44 to 264 is about two minutes. Ridiculous. Believe they have now altered the timetable slightly. We in Surbiton have another liberal, who in his 'newspaper' his leaflets look like a freebie, not only did he single handedly prevent the selling off of the Eurostar platforms at Waterloo, but intends bringing double decker trains in by 2020!  |
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Post by LX09FBJ on Apr 29, 2015 13:03:24 GMT
Well I have a dilemma on my hands in that I live in Vince Cable's constituency, which is a (soon to be) rather rare case of a safe Lib Dem seat. I like Cable but I don't particularly like Nick Clegg, mainly because of the tuition fees fiasco, and the 'going into bed' with Cameron. If I vote Labour, then I actually risk helping the Tories, who I cannot stand. I also feel that the Tories are more an aggressive party in terms of highlighting the negative points of the opposition. And the leader of the SNP is Nicola Sturgeon not Salmond anymore, so much for Milliband being Salmond's puppet
From a national point of view, I can see that many voters are disgruntled at what the Con-Dems have done throughout the past five years, but many people (including myself) don't see Milliband as prime ministerial material. The exponential growth of the SNP in Scotland and the steadier growth of Plaid Cymru in Wales, mostly in Labour seats has had an effect also. Currently the SNP has six of the 59 Scottish seats (roughly 10%) but some polls were predicting around 40 seats, but a quick Google search reveals that some pollsters are claiming that the SNP could do a clean sweep of all 59 constituencies north of the border.
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Post by vjaska on May 8, 2015 2:06:24 GMT
Well I'm afraid to say that so far, it looks we will be lumbered with the Conservatives again. If you thought the last 5 years were bad, you ain't seen nothing yet!
As for Lib Dems in London, it looks like Simon Hughes for Bermondsey & Ed Davey of Kingston have lost though not confirmed yet. Brent has been lost to Labour.
EDIT: Simon Hughes, Ed Davey, Vince Cable, plus the people who were seated in Brent and Sutton & Cheam have all lost their seats.
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Post by mondraker275 on May 8, 2015 8:31:10 GMT
My 275 has not changed seats as I suspected.
Stella Creasy destroys Walthamstow (in a good way). Outside chance to lead Labour and replace Miliband???. Young upcoming woman in politics.
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Post by LX09FBJ on May 8, 2015 9:13:27 GMT
Big shock to see Ed Davey and Vince Cable loosing their seats, with the latter effecting me big time! Shocked and angry to see a "no-name" Tory take over from an established local MP
Now we have to face a majority Tory government, as opposed to a watered down coalition. I understand that Nick Clegg has taken the brunt of being part of the coalition but tonight has possibly spelt the end of the Lib Dems.
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Post by snoggle on May 8, 2015 10:16:57 GMT
Big shock to see Ed Davey and Vince Cable loosing their seats, with the latter effecting me big time! Shocked and angry to see a "no-name" Tory take over from an established local MP Now we have to face a majority Tory government, as opposed to a watered down coalition. I understand that Nick Clegg has taken the brunt of being part of the coalition but tonight has possibly spelt the end of the Lib Dems. It won't be the end of the Lib Dems. They will rebuild themselves somehow and I expect Clegg will go. The bigger issues are what a majority Conservative government will do, what happens with respect to Scotland, how Cameron handles Europe and the Referendum in 2017 plus whether the economy collapses when the Eurozone goes into a tailspin over Greece (due very soon). There are some very serious issues that could fundamentally change what the UK is like come 2020. Oh and don't get ill or poor.  |
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Post by vjaska on May 8, 2015 12:21:05 GMT
Big shock to see Ed Davey and Vince Cable loosing their seats, with the latter effecting me big time! Shocked and angry to see a "no-name" Tory take over from an established local MP Now we have to face a majority Tory government, as opposed to a watered down coalition. I understand that Nick Clegg has taken the brunt of being part of the coalition but tonight has possibly spelt the end of the Lib Dems. It won't be the end of the Lib Dems. They will rebuild themselves somehow and I expect Clegg will go. The bigger issues are what a majority Conservative government will do, what happens with respect to Scotland, how Cameron handles Europe and the Referendum in 2017 plus whether the economy collapses when the Eurozone goes into a tailspin over Greece (due very soon). There are some very serious issues that could fundamentally change what the UK is like come 2020. Oh and don't get ill or poor. A bit late for being poor for me lol. But yes, you are bang on and the changes that are facing us could be even worse than Margaret Thatcher's meddling in the 80's. Clegg, Milliband and Farage have all resigned though Farage hasn't ruled out a return - would it not be ironic if he returned and had the last Cheshire Cat style laugh on Cameron. |
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Post by Red Dragon on May 8, 2015 12:49:14 GMT
It won't be the end of the Lib Dems. They will rebuild themselves somehow and I expect Clegg will go. The bigger issues are what a majority Conservative government will do, what happens with respect to Scotland, how Cameron handles Europe and the Referendum in 2017 plus whether the economy collapses when the Eurozone goes into a tailspin over Greece (due very soon). There are some very serious issues that could fundamentally change what the UK is like come 2020. Oh and don't get ill or poor. A bit late for being poor for me lol. But yes, you are bang on and the changes that are facing us could be even worse than Margaret Thatcher's meddling in the 80's. Clegg, Milliband and Farage have all resigned though Farage hasn't ruled out a return - would it not be ironic if he returned and had the last Cheshire Cat style laugh on Cameron. Summary: the NHS is doomed, the Tories are going to kill the country (apart from the rich areas), the SNP are going to suck all the money out of us and then leave, nothing will be done for normal people like us. Even worse, we'll end up out of the EU. But on the bright side, Miliband is gone (we're not lumbered with a rubbish leader), UKIP are beaten down (for now...  ) and now at least we can blame the Tories for everything that goes wrong, and he probably (you never know the amount of stupidity of some  ) won't be re-elected in 2020 (although the country will be in ruins).
But never mind, every cloud has a silver lining! "Red squirrel bounces for joy on trampoline after seeing Cameron win, then falls off and sits on a grey squirrel" |
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Post by snoggle on May 8, 2015 16:15:49 GMT
A bit late for being poor for me lol. But yes, you are bang on and the changes that are facing us could be even worse than Margaret Thatcher's meddling in the 80's. Clegg, Milliband and Farage have all resigned though Farage hasn't ruled out a return - would it not be ironic if he returned and had the last Cheshire Cat style laugh on Cameron. Summary: the NHS is doomed, the Tories are going to kill the country (apart from the rich areas), the SNP are going to suck all the money out of us and then leave, nothing will be done for normal people like us. Even worse, we'll end up out of the EU. But on the bright side, Miliband is gone (we're not lumbered with a rubbish leader), UKIP are beaten down (for now... ) and now at least we can blame the Tories for everything that goes wrong, and he probably (you never know the amount of stupidity of some ) won't be re-elected in 2020 (although the country will be in ruins).
But never mind, every cloud has a silver lining! "Red squirrel bounces for joy on trampoline after seeing Cameron win, then falls off and sits on a grey squirrel"My slight concern with the result is that it feels not unlike 1983 when Thatcher got back in. It took another 14 years before the other parties sorted themselves out. There is a phenomenal challenge for the Opposition parties to get themselves into a place of actually opposing and having a narrative that voters will listen to. There are big issues for Labour in the North given UKIP came second in so many Northern seats. The EU referendum gives the opposition very little time to create a convincing alternative narrative to what will be a never ending storyline of "leave the EU, leave the EU". I expect certain newspapers have already their directions from their proprietors. I can't see where a policy line of remaining in Europe will come from in terms of politics. A section of business will wish to remain in the EU but they're not politicians. If people vote to quit the EU then expect a huge outlfow of people, money and business. That'll certainly create a nightmare for everyone, including the Tories, come 2020. If we leave we'll never re-enter as the terms for re-entry would be politically unacceptable given how many opt outs we now have and which we would lose. |
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Post by YY13VKP on May 8, 2015 18:07:28 GMT
A bit late for being poor for me lol. But yes, you are bang on and the changes that are facing us could be even worse than Margaret Thatcher's meddling in the 80's. Clegg, Milliband and Farage have all resigned though Farage hasn't ruled out a return - would it not be ironic if he returned and had the last Cheshire Cat style laugh on Cameron. Summary: the NHS is doomed, the Tories are going to kill the country (apart from the rich areas), the SNP are going to suck all the money out of us and then leave, nothing will be done for normal people like us. Even worse, we'll end up out of the EU. But on the bright side, Miliband is gone (we're not lumbered with a rubbish leader), UKIP are beaten down (for now... ) and now at least we can blame the Tories for everything that goes wrong, and he probably (you never know the amount of stupidity of some ) won't be re-elected in 2020 (although the country will be in ruins).
But never mind, every cloud has a silver lining! "Red squirrel bounces for joy on trampoline after seeing Cameron win, then falls off and sits on a grey squirrel"I was quite surprised when Ed Miliband, Nick Clegg and Nigel Farage all stepped down! However, I'm quite happy Farage is gone, because I didn't like him at all Also, happy to see Cameron retaining Prime Minister. However, i don't think they will kill the country, I doubt it the SNP would suck money out of us. However, I hope they show consideration to all people rather than just the rich. And we would have left the EU if Nigel Farage was the PM. Someone who knows a lot about politics told me that Cameron can only do 2 terms as the PM, however, thats for the US. Not sure though about that here, however, I would think that Cameron would step down for the next election |
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Post by vjaska on May 8, 2015 18:48:05 GMT
Summary: the NHS is doomed, the Tories are going to kill the country (apart from the rich areas), the SNP are going to suck all the money out of us and then leave, nothing will be done for normal people like us. Even worse, we'll end up out of the EU. But on the bright side, Miliband is gone (we're not lumbered with a rubbish leader), UKIP are beaten down (for now... ) and now at least we can blame the Tories for everything that goes wrong, and he probably (you never know the amount of stupidity of some ) won't be re-elected in 2020 (although the country will be in ruins).
But never mind, every cloud has a silver lining! "Red squirrel bounces for joy on trampoline after seeing Cameron win, then falls off and sits on a grey squirrel"I was quite surprised when Ed Miliband, Nick Clegg and Nigel Farage all stepped down! However, I'm quite happy Farage is gone, because I didn't like him at all Also, happy to see Cameron retaining Prime Minister. However, i don't think they will kill the country, I doubt it the SNP would suck money out of us. However, I hope they show consideration to all people rather than just the rich. And we would have left the EU if Nigel Farage was the PM. Someone who knows a lot about politics told me that Cameron can only do 2 terms as the PM, however, thats for the US. Not sure though about that here, however, I would think that Cameron would step down for the next election When you get older, you'll soon realise that the Tories are really bad news for anyone who isn't rich or posh. Cameron is just a male Margaret Thatcher and will pull this country apart and the union which has stood for over 300 years. Cameron can serve another term but he has already stated he won't. |
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Post by snoggle on May 8, 2015 18:49:55 GMT
Summary: the NHS is doomed, the Tories are going to kill the country (apart from the rich areas), the SNP are going to suck all the money out of us and then leave, nothing will be done for normal people like us. Even worse, we'll end up out of the EU. But on the bright side, Miliband is gone (we're not lumbered with a rubbish leader), UKIP are beaten down (for now... ) and now at least we can blame the Tories for everything that goes wrong, and he probably (you never know the amount of stupidity of some ) won't be re-elected in 2020 (although the country will be in ruins).
But never mind, every cloud has a silver lining! "Red squirrel bounces for joy on trampoline after seeing Cameron win, then falls off and sits on a grey squirrel"I was quite surprised when Ed Miliband, Nick Clegg and Nigel Farage all stepped down! However, I'm quite happy Farage is gone, because I didn't like him at all Also, happy to see Cameron retaining Prime Minister. However, i don't think they will kill the country, I doubt it the SNP would suck money out of us. However, I hope they show consideration to all people rather than just the rich. And we would have left the EU if Nigel Farage was the PM. Someone who knows a lot about politics told me that Cameron can only do 2 terms as the PM, however, thats for the US. Not sure though about that here, however, I would think that Cameron would step down for the next election Mr Cameron himself has said he doesn't wish to serve more than two terms. He will come under massive pressure at some point to set a date for his departure - that will come from inside the Tory Party and from that bit of the media who is happy today but which will soon start the attacks on Cameron to get their preferred candidate in place. Note that Boris has been having lots of soirees with Rupert Murdoch and, of course, writes for the Telegraph. I suspect the EU referendum will be the point in time when Cameron will be "expected" to go to make way for whatever lunatic has been "victorious" in the infighting in the Tory Party. I think it has the potential to get every bit as nasty as the Blair vs Brown episode about 10 years ago. There is no constitutional limit on the numbers of terms that one individual can serve as PM if the voters keep electing their party into power. We're not the USA. I wasn't the least bit surprised all three leaders went - it's become the expectation these days if political parties do badly and if they hadn't gone the media would be asking them every 10 minutes why they weren't resigning. Expect to see the media chasing Jim Murphy in Scotland asking why he is still the leader of Scottish Labour. He'll be chased out in due course - expect the Scottish Sun to start that campaign. There is plenty of potential for all sorts of things to go well or badly from here on in. I suspect the England vs Scotland issue is going to get really horrible and I don't see Cameron and Sturgeon being able to work together that well. The whole "english votes for english matters" will pre-occupy a wing of the Tory Party and they'll also want to massively cut funding that goes to Scotland. That will cause massive ructions but the SNP can't do anything about it given the Conservatives have a parliamentary majority, albeit a small one. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on May 8, 2015 22:12:10 GMT
The Conservatives are not really good for the working class, Labour should have got the parliamentary Majourity I think but in the end people who voted got what they wanted. Anything that now goes wrong with the economy will be blamed solely on the Conservatives as there is no coalition government like there was before...
On that note we come to the Liberal Democrats, this was a horrible election for them losing so many seats in the UK Parliament. It shows they have a lot more fixing up to do before the next election. The SNP seem to have done much better than was forecasted albeit by slapping the Labour Party in the face, but I don't understand the reason for another referendum. It is like saying "Come on, let's try again. We will eventually become independent" just doesn't make sense. UKIP only got one seat, however they did come second in quite a lot of constituencies, even here in Barking however as has been the case for many years in Barking, Margaret Hodge will continue to be the MP for the area.
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Post by vjaska on May 8, 2015 22:22:20 GMT
The Conservatives are not really good for the working class, Labour should have got the parliamentary Majourity I think but in the end people who voted got what they wanted. Anything that now goes wrong with the economy will be blamed solely on the Conservatives as there is no coalition government like there was before... On that note we come to the Liberal Democrats, this was a horrible election for them losing so many seats in the UK Parliament. It shows they have a lot more fixing up to do before the next election. The SNP seem to have done much better than was forecasted albeit by slapping the Labour Party in the face, but I don't understand the reason for another referendum. It is like saying "Come on, let's try again. We will eventually become independent" just doesn't make sense. UKIP only got one seat, however they did come second in quite a lot of constituencies, even here in Barking however as has been the case for many years in Barking, Margaret Hodge will continue to be the MP for the area. I think it's inevitable that the SNP will eventually get their way with regards to Independence and as much as the Conservatives bang on about how much they want the union together, it will be they who end up breaking it into pieces - after all, they gain the most from that happening. My local MP, Labour's Chuka Umunna, increased his votes by about 10,000 - I'm not his biggest fan but he certainly was better than the other candidates. Simon Hughes & Vince Cable did shock me a bit as I've always heard they were quite liked by their constituents - I suspect they were ousted as revenge for the Lib Dems part in the coalition rather than their performance at local government. |
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Post by snoggle on May 11, 2015 13:20:48 GMT
Patrick McLoughlin remains as Transport Secretary in the new government. That at least provides some continuity. Will be interesting to see who the Ministers of State are in the Transport Department given Baroness Kramer has gone. Whoever gets the Aviation portfolio may give a hint as to future policy over Heathrow. As Bozza will not sit in the political cabinet he is tied in to future Cabinet decisions including over Heathrow. Might cause some fun in the coming months.  |
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) and now at least we can blame the Tories for everything that goes wrong, and he probably (you never know the amount of stupidity of some 
) won't be re-elected in 2020 (although the country will be in ruins). 
