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Post by DT 11 on May 1, 2015 21:01:06 GMT
Some recent PVR increases have happened which some may not be aware of so I put them in one list here with dates, which could explain some bus transfers been noted in recent posts. All of these routes with increases now have Temporary Timetables only a small number of routes have not been affected.
4th April
40 PVR 18 - 19 (+1) - Also partly to do with Aldgate
18th April
35 PVR 20 - 21 (+1)
63 PVR 29 - 30 (+1)
171 PVR 25 - 26 (+1)
172 PVR 15 - 16 (+1)
188 PVR 24 - 25 (+1)
196 PVR 14 - 15 (+1)
333 PVR 14 - 15 M-F (+1) (PVR was already 15 on Saturdays..)
343 PVR 24 - 25 (+1)
344 PVR 23 - 25 (+2)
C10 PVR 16 - 17 (+1)
2nd May
45 Temporary timetable introduced during road works at Elephant & Castle. Monday to Saturday daytime service reduced to every 8-9 minutes (except AM peak towards King's Cross).
68 PVR 22 - 23 (+1)
100 PVR 17 - 18 (+1)
360 PVR 11 - 12 (+1)
468 PVR 29 - 30 (+1)
P5 PVR 8 - 9 (+1)
The Only Routes which have not got PVR increases
1, 12, 45, 53, 133, 136, 148, 155, 168, 176, 415 & 453
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Post by Nathan on May 1, 2015 21:17:09 GMT
Some recent PVR increases have happened which some may not be aware of so I put them in one list here with dates, which could explain some bus transfers been noted in recent posts. All of these routes with increases now have Temporary Timetables only a small number of routes have not been affected. 4th April 40 PVR 18 - 19 (+1) - Also partly to do with Aldgate 18th April 35 PVR 20 - 21 (+1) 63 PVR 29 - 30 (+1) 171 PVR 25 - 26 (+1) 172 PVR 15 - 16 (+1) 188 PVR 24 - 25 (+1) 196 PVR 14 - 15 (+1) 333 PVR 14 - 15 M-F (+1) (PVR was already 15 on Saturdays..) 343 PVR 24 - 25 (+1) 344 PVR 23 - 25 (+2) C10 PVR 16 - 17 (+1) 2nd May 45 Temporary timetable introduced during road works at Elephant & Castle. Monday to Saturday daytime service reduced to every 8-9 minutes (except AM peak towards King's Cross). 68 PVR 22 - 23 (+1) 100 PVR 17 - 18 (+1) 360 PVR 11 - 12 (+1) 468 PVR 29 - 30 (+1) P5 PVR 8 - 9 (+1) The Only Routes which have not got PVR increases 1, 12, 45, 53, 133, 136, 148, 155, 168, 176, 415 & 453 This explains why two WVLs from the 12 each went to PM and NX for routes 63 & 171 respectively. And I suppose it explains why there are still 51/52 plates at WL, mainly used on he 172. |
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Post by DT 11 on May 1, 2015 21:29:28 GMT
Some recent PVR increases have happened which some may not be aware of so I put them in one list here with dates, which could explain some bus transfers been noted in recent posts. All of these routes with increases now have Temporary Timetables only a small number of routes have not been affected. 4th April 40 PVR 18 - 19 (+1) - Also partly to do with Aldgate 18th April 35 PVR 20 - 21 (+1) 63 PVR 29 - 30 (+1) 171 PVR 25 - 26 (+1) 172 PVR 15 - 16 (+1) 188 PVR 24 - 25 (+1) 196 PVR 14 - 15 (+1) 333 PVR 14 - 15 M-F (+1) (PVR was already 15 on Saturdays..) 343 PVR 24 - 25 (+1) 344 PVR 23 - 25 (+2) C10 PVR 16 - 17 (+1) 2nd May 45 Temporary timetable introduced during road works at Elephant & Castle. Monday to Saturday daytime service reduced to every 8-9 minutes (except AM peak towards King's Cross). 68 PVR 22 - 23 (+1) 100 PVR 17 - 18 (+1) 360 PVR 11 - 12 (+1) 468 PVR 29 - 30 (+1) P5 PVR 8 - 9 (+1) The Only Routes which have not got PVR increases 1, 12, 45, 53, 133, 136, 148, 155, 168, 176, 415 & 453 This explains why two WVLs from the 12 each went to PM and NX for routes 63 & 171 respectively. And I suppose it explains why there are still 51/52 plates at WL, mainly used on he 172. Indeed, I was also confused why I saw a bus NX 76 running light in Catford at the time NX 75 does! So now I know the 171 PVR is 26 for now lol. Plus explains why two Tridents moved from WS to QB both for the 344, schedule Change Abellio changed the running numbers for the 344 so makes sense, as Abellio change running numbers a lot of the time for small schedule changes lol. Don't forget WVL443-WVL444 moved to SW, so these are for the 196 & 333. Have no idea what has moved to WL lol |
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Post by vjaska on May 1, 2015 21:40:51 GMT
Some recent PVR increases have happened which some may not be aware of so I put them in one list here with dates, which could explain some bus transfers been noted in recent posts. All of these routes with increases now have Temporary Timetables only a small number of routes have not been affected. 4th April 40 PVR 18 - 19 (+1) - Also partly to do with Aldgate 18th April 35 PVR 20 - 21 (+1) 63 PVR 29 - 30 (+1) 171 PVR 25 - 26 (+1) 172 PVR 15 - 16 (+1) 188 PVR 24 - 25 (+1) 196 PVR 14 - 15 (+1) 333 PVR 14 - 15 M-F (+1) (PVR was already 15 on Saturdays..) 343 PVR 24 - 25 (+1) 344 PVR 23 - 25 (+2) C10 PVR 16 - 17 (+1) 2nd May 45 Temporary timetable introduced during road works at Elephant & Castle. Monday to Saturday daytime service reduced to every 8-9 minutes (except AM peak towards King's Cross). 68 PVR 22 - 23 (+1) 100 PVR 17 - 18 (+1) 360 PVR 11 - 12 (+1) 468 PVR 29 - 30 (+1) P5 PVR 8 - 9 (+1) The Only Routes which have not got PVR increases 1, 12, 45, 53, 133, 136, 148, 155, 168, 176, 415 & 453 Thanks for this. Also, credit to 'MrEdd' who eluded to the PVR increases on the 196 & 333. I had a feeling he'd be right lol. |
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Post by M1104 on May 1, 2015 23:05:25 GMT
This explains why two WVLs from the 12 each went to PM and NX for routes 63 & 171 respectively. And I suppose it explains why there are still 51/52 plates at WL, mainly used on he 172. Indeed, I was also confused why I saw a bus NX 76 running light in Catford at the time NX 75 does! So now I know the 171 PVR is 26 for now lol. Plus explains why two Tridents moved from WS to QB both for the 344, schedule Change Abellio changed the running numbers for the 344 so makes sense, as Abellio change running numbers a lot of the time for small schedule changes lol. Don't forget WVL443-WVL444 moved to SW, so these are for the 196 & 333. Have no idea what has moved to WL lol I'm guessing some Tridents from WS (ex-350 batch). |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2015 6:30:54 GMT
Who cares?? Boring boring. Get a life
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Post by vjaska on May 2, 2015 9:08:49 GMT
Who cares?? Boring boring. Get a life No need to be so rude. If you find it so boring, don't reply and ignore the topic. |
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Post by YY13VKP on May 7, 2015 19:42:13 GMT
Some recent PVR increases have happened which some may not be aware of so I put them in one list here with dates, which could explain some bus transfers been noted in recent posts. All of these routes with increases now have Temporary Timetables only a small number of routes have not been affected. 4th April 40 PVR 18 - 19 (+1) - Also partly to do with Aldgate 18th April 35 PVR 20 - 21 (+1) 63 PVR 29 - 30 (+1) 171 PVR 25 - 26 (+1) 172 PVR 15 - 16 (+1) 188 PVR 24 - 25 (+1) 196 PVR 14 - 15 (+1) 333 PVR 14 - 15 M-F (+1) (PVR was already 15 on Saturdays..) 343 PVR 24 - 25 (+1) 344 PVR 23 - 25 (+2) C10 PVR 16 - 17 (+1) 2nd May 45 Temporary timetable introduced during road works at Elephant & Castle. Monday to Saturday daytime service reduced to every 8-9 minutes (except AM peak towards King's Cross). 68 PVR 22 - 23 (+1) 100 PVR 17 - 18 (+1) 360 PVR 11 - 12 (+1) 468 PVR 29 - 30 (+1) P5 PVR 8 - 9 (+1) The Only Routes which have not got PVR increases 1, 12, 45, 53, 133, 136, 148, 155, 168, 176, 415 & 453 I'd suppose the 68/468 would most likely keep a WHV or a WVL for this The C10 gained 8522 as its PVR increase from BC, joining 8501, 8518 and 8519 which had transferred from BC for PVR increases on the C10 |
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Post by sid on May 8, 2015 20:31:14 GMT
Who cares?? Boring boring. Get a life This is a bus forum, if you find it boring you know where the door is |
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Post by danorak on May 18, 2015 11:52:45 GMT
The Only Routes which have not got PVR increases 1, 12, 45, 53, 133, 136, 148, 155, 168, 176, 415 & 453 There's a petition doing the rounds to get the 53 reinstated to Whitehall. charltonsociety.org/latest-news |
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Post by snoggle on May 18, 2015 14:27:42 GMT
The Only Routes which have not got PVR increases 1, 12, 45, 53, 133, 136, 148, 155, 168, 176, 415 & 453 There's a petition doing the rounds to get the 53 reinstated to Whitehall. charltonsociety.org/latest-news There is also a question to the Mayor about the 53 for this week's MQT. It'll be interesting to see the written answer on this. I expect it will be bad news given we've got 12 months of construction work at Elephant. |
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Post by danorak on May 18, 2015 14:40:04 GMT
There's a petition doing the rounds to get the 53 reinstated to Whitehall. charltonsociety.org/latest-news There is also a question to the Mayor about the 53 for this week's MQT. It'll be interesting to see the written answer on this. I expect it will be bad news given we've got 12 months of construction work at Elephant. I was wondering how long it would be before a question was asked. I think TfL haven't helped themselves with this one as the publicity has been, at best, vague. This has led people to assume the worst. A firm commitment to reinstate by a certain date would help allay nerves. If Robert Munster's site is correct, eight weeks has turned into April next year. |
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Post by snoggle on May 18, 2015 14:43:37 GMT
There is also a question to the Mayor about the 53 for this week's MQT. It'll be interesting to see the written answer on this. I expect it will be bad news given we've got 12 months of construction work at Elephant. I was wondering how long it would be before a question was asked. I think TfL haven't helped themselves with this one as the publicity has been, at best, vague. This has led people to assume the worst. A firm commitment to reinstate by a certain date would help allay nerves. If Robert Munster's site is correct, eight weeks has turned into April next year. I think the problem is that TfL don't know for certain what will happen. There is, though, an ongoing nasty habit of "temporary" changes metamorphosing into things that last years and years. There's still the suggestion that the 7 and 98 changes are "temporary" but there's been comment to the contrary too. Some definitive statements about what's going on would help things even if there was a negative reaction initially. |
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Post by southlondonbus on May 18, 2015 16:23:05 GMT
I think the 53 will return as lambeth north is a bit of a non destination. If it doesn't I guess it will be pulled back further to elephant (and resources saved) which I suppose is still a useful destination as the 155, 333 and 363 have always had a purpose despite once being part of routes that ran further into town.
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