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Post by snoggle on Aug 7, 2015 18:17:17 GMT
BBC London featured an article this evening about a bus stop in Maida Vale. It's apparently been moved lock, stock and barrel down the road because a rather well to do resident wanted it moved and paid TfL £11,000 to do so.
Apparently TfL have done this before and are happy to receive the money.
TfL didn't bother to run a consultation and said they don't normally bother to do so. The local residents are now up in arms about the stop move, the longer walking distances for people on a nearby estate and the failure to consult them. They're taking the issue to the Ombudsman - one to watch I think.
I have to say I find it somewhat outrageous that one person with too much money can inconvenience others and there's no proper assessment of the impact. It must be borderline as to whether an equality impact assessment should have been done given people are citing inconvenience for those who are older or with a level of restricted mobility.
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Post by greeny253 on Aug 7, 2015 18:50:06 GMT
Having a look on the BBC London website, the stop was moved a mere 150 yards. I find it interesting (though largely unsurprising!) that this simple move has also allowed 2 new links.
Whilst I understand that the residents may be (slightly!) inconvenienced surely the creation of 2 new links with existing routes is a good thing?
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Post by ServerKing on Aug 7, 2015 18:56:59 GMT
BBC London featured an article this evening about a bus stop in Maida Vale. It's apparently been moved lock, stock and barrel down the road because a rather well to do resident wanted it moved and paid TfL £11,000 to do so. Apparently TfL have done this before and are happy to receive the money. TfL didn't bother to run a consultation and said they don't normally bother to do so. The local residents are now up in arms about the stop move, the longer walking distances for people on a nearby estate and the failure to consult them. They're taking the issue to the Ombudsman - one to watch I think. I have to say I find it somewhat outrageous that one person with too much money can inconvenience others and there's no proper assessment of the impact. It must be borderline as to whether an equality impact assessment should have been done given people are citing inconvenience for those who are older or with a level of restricted mobility. Said stuck-up resident probably didn't want ne'er do wells from the local estate talking, texting, shouting, loitering etc at a bus stop adjacent to his property as it rather brings down the tone... it's just ghastly that buses even travel down such a road!  I guess to TfL 11k is more money towards new hybrid batteries for the white elephants so they wouldn't turn such an offer down   |
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Post by snoggle on Aug 7, 2015 22:13:21 GMT
Having a look on the BBC London website, the stop was moved a mere 150 yards. I find it interesting (though largely unsurprising!) that this simple move has also allowed 2 new links. Whilst I understand that the residents may be (slightly!) inconvenienced surely the creation of 2 new links with existing routes is a good thing? There are a couple of principles here. 1. Is it right that someone can pay to move a bus stop with no regard to the impact on others? Does money override the rights of other people? 2. Is it right that TfL, as a publicly and politically accountable body, can take the money and act without consulting users? I think the residents who are complaining are more infuriated about item 2 to be honest. The other aspect that I find puzzling is the apparent claim that the person who paid for the stop to be moved apparently requires unfettered access to their property. As the bus stop clearly was not in front of a roadway or path into the residency (itself behind high fences and controlled access gates) I don't see how their argument stacks up to be honest. Looking on Google Streetview - amazingly up to date - you can see where the stop was and that a bus at the stop would just block access to or from their property. Will they next be paying TfL to remove any bus lanes in the area and then paying Westminster City Council to install their own "Zil Lane"? I know I'm stretching the point but where does this sort of thing stop? Oh and the claimed new links at the stop seemingly don't exist - Countdown doesn't show a common stop nor does the Streetview shot of the resited stop. |
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Post by vjaska on Aug 8, 2015 0:37:12 GMT
If I was rich, I'd pay for nimby residents to be moved away from single decker routes that require deckers lol.
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Post by John tuthill on Aug 8, 2015 8:14:59 GMT
BBC London featured an article this evening about a bus stop in Maida Vale. It's apparently been moved lock, stock and barrel down the road because a rather well to do resident wanted it moved and paid TfL £11,000 to do so. Apparently TfL have done this before and are happy to receive the money. TfL didn't bother to run a consultation and said they don't normally bother to do so. The local residents are now up in arms about the stop move, the longer walking distances for people on a nearby estate and the failure to consult them. They're taking the issue to the Ombudsman - one to watch I think. I have to say I find it somewhat outrageous that one person with too much money can inconvenience others and there's no proper assessment of the impact. It must be borderline as to whether an equality impact assessment should have been done given people are citing inconvenience for those who are older or with a level of restricted mobility. Maybe the resident didn't want their 'visitors'  to think they have to queue |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 13:21:25 GMT
Same sort of thing has recently happened on the 364 hail and ride stretch. Due to an mp not wanting people sitting outside on his wall. I believe it's no stopping on elgin road. I'm not sure of the exact spelling as I avoid the 364's like the plague.
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Post by driveumad on Aug 30, 2015 9:36:18 GMT
What or who was there first, bus stop or rich resident?
If resident then I'm on their side if however it was the bus stop then they can sod off.
If they moved there with a bus stop already in place then that's their own fault for choosing that property, chances are they got it at a lower price anyway due to the bus stop right outside.
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I guess to TfL 11k is more money towards new hybrid batteries for the white elephants so they wouldn't turn such an offer down 
to think they have to queue 
