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Post by snoggle on Dec 16, 2015 15:45:49 GMT
Right that's my responses sent in for the 481, E8, 110 and H28 proposals together with unsubtle references to the Surface Transport MD and lack of detailed supporting evidence for the Hounslow changes. TfL won't take any notice of me, of course, but let's hope the locals have been writing in to defend their services. I note that the trees on Amhurst Road are apparently of a type that if you prune them they react by growing enormous spikes all over their trunks thus providing a considerable risk of injury and impalement!! (outlined in the letter to residents). Seems the trees don't like TfL's ideas either.
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Post by ServerKing on Dec 16, 2015 16:36:05 GMT
Right that's my responses sent in for the 481, E8, 110 and H28 proposals together with unsubtle references to the Surface Transport MD and lack of detailed supporting evidence for the Hounslow changes. TfL won't take any notice of me, of course, but let's hope the locals have been writing in to defend their services. I note that the trees on Amhurst Road are apparently of a type that if you prune them they react by growing enormous spikes all over their trunks thus providing a considerable risk of injury and impalement!! (outlined in the letter to residents). Seems the trees don't like TfL's ideas either. Could prove a problem if these spikes are strong enough to tear thru the metal on the side of the buses
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Post by snoggle on Dec 16, 2015 17:17:42 GMT
Right that's my responses sent in for the 481, E8, 110 and H28 proposals together with unsubtle references to the Surface Transport MD and lack of detailed supporting evidence for the Hounslow changes. TfL won't take any notice of me, of course, but let's hope the locals have been writing in to defend their services. I note that the trees on Amhurst Road are apparently of a type that if you prune them they react by growing enormous spikes all over their trunks thus providing a considerable risk of injury and impalement!! (outlined in the letter to residents). Seems the trees don't like TfL's ideas either. Could prove a problem if these spikes are strong enough to tear thru the metal on the side of the buses The issue of the spikes appearing after pruning is why TfL are proposing to remove the trees entirely rather than prune them so double decks can safely pass. Apparently similar trees have been cut down in Chiswick on H&S grounds. Have to say the spikes in the photo in the residents letter do look pretty big.
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Post by Hassaan on Dec 18, 2015 0:49:30 GMT
If they have to remove that hounslow to WMH i rather they extend 110 to southall and extend 120 to harrow (through the same way as 140), while adding frequency to 117, 267 and 481 to give more coverage to different areas. I do hope you weren't trying to send the 110 over the 3T bridge . The 120 doesn't need an extension anywhere, just extra buses. I remember overhearing drivers saying that when the route had 18 buses last year (for the Southall Broadway remodelling closure) it ran much better. Although it does also appear to be a favourite route for putting the new drivers on . Back to this consultation, I think it is stupid sending the E8 via Amhurst Gardens. It just adds unnecessary time to what will become a major trunk route. If they must change the H28 then send the 235 that way or even the new route of the 110.
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Post by LX09FBJ on Dec 18, 2015 7:01:40 GMT
If they have to remove that hounslow to WMH i rather they extend 110 to southall and extend 120 to harrow (through the same way as 140), while adding frequency to 117, 267 and 481 to give more coverage to different areas. I do hope you weren't trying to send the 110 over the 3T bridge  . The 120 doesn't need an extension anywhere, just extra buses. I remember overhearing drivers saying that when the route had 18 buses last year (for the Southall Broadway remodelling closure) it ran much better. Although it does also appear to be a favourite route for putting the new drivers on  . Back to this consultation, I think it is stupid sending the E8 via Amhurst Gardens. It just adds unnecessary time to what will become a major trunk route. If they must change the H28 then send the 235 that way or even the new route of the 110. Agree with the E8 in that extra running time would be unnecessarily added. I would either extend the E2 to WMH and/or send the 81, 117 or 203 via Amhurst Gardens. Should the 117 be diverted here then I would at least convert it to DD operation and possibly up the frequency to x15 to relieve pressure from the 235.
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Post by Hassaan on Dec 18, 2015 17:50:16 GMT
I do hope you weren't trying to send the 110 over the 3T bridge . The 120 doesn't need an extension anywhere, just extra buses. I remember overhearing drivers saying that when the route had 18 buses last year (for the Southall Broadway remodelling closure) it ran much better. Although it does also appear to be a favourite route for putting the new drivers on . Back to this consultation, I think it is stupid sending the E8 via Amhurst Gardens. It just adds unnecessary time to what will become a major trunk route. If they must change the H28 then send the 235 that way or even the new route of the 110. Agree with the E8 in that extra running time would be unnecessarily added. I would either extend the E2 to WMH and/or send the 81, 117 or 203 via Amhurst Gardens. Should the 117 be diverted here then I would at least convert it to DD operation and possibly up the frequency to x15 to relieve pressure from the 235. The recent award of the 117 that keeps it at 3bph makes me even more convinced that Surrey C C are not willing to contribute more towards the route, or at least whatever amount TfL want them to. I mean, routes that are significantly less busy but don't cross the Greater London boundary have received enhancements, as well as those which cross into other areas outside London, even those in other parts of Surrey (e.g. Epsom), so it can't be a coincidence that all the Staines area routes are still low frequency and have no plans for enhancements. Actually I don't understand why Amhurst Gardens needs a bus route. Apart from the nearest northbound (towards Brentford) stop on Twickenham Road (which is a 5 minute walk), all the others are no more than a 3 minutek walk from the middle of Amhurst Gardens. On the other hand, both sections of Wood Lane (either side of Great West Road) are a 5-6 minute walk from the nearest bus stops, longer than that if you want to only use a single bus to Hounslow Town Centre.
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Post by Hassaan on Dec 18, 2015 23:14:31 GMT
This is what I've sent to TfL:
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Post by ServerKing on Dec 19, 2015 2:45:21 GMT
This is what I've sent to TfL: Well done, mate! Expect a standard "Thanks for your email" reply and little to be done... 235 to become a Heritage route using existing Caetano Darts with original moquette
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2016 13:57:50 GMT
The last N9 trip to Hounslow from Aldwych reaches Brentford at the same time the 635's start leaving Brentford. I happen to have been on that trip this morning and can vouch that the 635 I saw was empty until it reached Isleworth. So perhaps the decision to axe the 635 between Hounslow and Brentford is ok.
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Post by Jack on Mar 18, 2016 13:01:49 GMT
Dear Sir or Madam, During November and December 2015 we consulted on proposed changes to bus services in Hounslow, Ealing and Twickenham. We have now analysed these responses. Bus services E8, 110, H28 and 635 We received 748 responses from members of the public and ten replies from stakeholders. From 28 May 2016, we will introduce the following service improvements: Route E8 will be extended from Brentford High Street, to Hounslow Bell Corner via the A315 London Road through Isleworth. The route will no longer serve Commerce Road. Buses will all be double deck (currently both single and double deck buses operate on this route). Route 110 will no longer run between Hounslow bus station and West Middlesex University Hospital. It will be extended from Twickenham to West Middlesex University Hospital via Twickenham Road. It will no longer serve York Street and Arragon Road. School route 635 will no longer run between Hounslow bus station and Brentford County Court. It will continue to run between Hounslow bus station and St Paul’s School in Sunbury. The extension of route E8 will provide sufficient capacity between Hounslow and Brentford. We have deferred making a decision on the proposed changes to route H28 as well as the part of route E8 which was proposed to serve Twickenham Road, West Middlesex University Hospital and Amhurst Gardens. We will have further discussions with the London Borough of Hounslow about these proposed changes. Bus service 481 We received 434 responses from members of the public and eight responses from stakeholders. From 7 May 2016 we will increase the frequency from a bus every 60 minutes to a bus every 30 minutes Monday to Saturday daytimes and introduce a new hourly Sunday daytime service. Further information For further details of the above changes, a summary of the consultation responses, and our responses to issues raised, please visit tfl.gov.uk/buses/e8-110-h28 and tfl.gov.uk/buses/481.
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Post by snoggle on Mar 18, 2016 13:08:18 GMT
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Post by Jack on Mar 18, 2016 16:04:45 GMT
Also,
"Request that low emission specification vehicles (hybrid buses) are used on the route
Our buses have a typical life of about 14 years, and around 650 new buses are introduced every year across the network. The fleet is getting cleaner every year, with all parts of London benefitting from significantly reduced emissions. The route will use Euro IV diesel double - deck vehicles. We are unable to introduce hybrid vehicles on this route at this time"
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Post by vjaska on Mar 18, 2016 16:39:27 GMT
As usual, the nonsense brigade are out with all sorts of reasons to scupper re-routings. Hopefully, the E8 & H28 are sorted out along the routings proposed.
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Post by Jack on Mar 18, 2016 16:53:26 GMT
As usual, the nonsense brigade are out with all sorts of reasons to scupper re-routings. Hopefully, the E8 & H28 are sorted out along the routings proposed. Why?! As someone who is not from the area I find that comment of interest? I don't support the H28, being my local, and agree with the comments that have been made re lose of a bus service. What makes you come to your conclusion the change should go ahead exactly?
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Post by vjaska on Mar 18, 2016 16:55:46 GMT
As usual, the nonsense brigade are out with all sorts of reasons to scupper re-routings. Hopefully, the E8 & H28 are sorted out along the routings proposed. Why?! As someone who is not from the area I find that comment of interest? I don't support the H28, being my local, and agree with the comments that have been made re lose of a bus service. What makes you come to your conclusion the change should go ahead exactly? They seem sensible enough to me (more so the E8) but like you say, I'm not from the area. That said, I'm allowed an opinion aren't I? Lol
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