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Post by snoggle on Dec 22, 2015 14:38:51 GMT
It has been announced that Siemens have been selected as preferred bidder for the new fleet of trains to replace the class 313s on Moorgate - Welwyn Garden City / Hertford North services. They will be a variant of the class 700s being built for Thameslink. RG article |
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Post by snowman on Dec 22, 2015 15:38:13 GMT
Guess they are also similar to the class 707 for SWT
The SWT order is also 150 cars (but 30 x 5 cars) and was worth £210m. This time its listed as over £200m. Probably not lot difference in price, bit more for adding ac power equipment, but a saving from 10 less driving cabs.
Not sure if the bodyshells need shrinking as I vaguely remember the clearances on the tunnels to be bit tighter than standard loading gauge.
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Post by YY13VKP on Dec 22, 2015 15:45:18 GMT
It has been announced that Siemens have been selected as preferred bidder for the new fleet of trains to replace the class 313s on Moorgate - Welwyn Garden City / Hertford North services. They will be a variant of the class 700s being built for Thameslink.
RG articleNoooooooo As long as they don't sound like a class 450, then I'm ok with them. Quite surprised Bombardier didnt win the contract. |
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Post by TA1 on Dec 22, 2015 15:45:39 GMT
It has been announced that Siemens have been selected as preferred bidder for the new fleet of trains to replace the class 313s on Moorgate - Welwyn Garden City / Hertford North services. They will be a variant of the class 700s being built for Thameslink. RG articleBeat me too it, but yes all confirmed. Its more than likely that these trains will retain tripcocks to continue use down the NCL, I'm actually quite sad about this news as it'll be the end of an era with the 313's, which imo have so much character. I expect a modified body-shell to fit down the tunnels, quite surprised an announcement has been made considering all the uncertainty at GN, many drivers have recently spoke of their uncertainty whether replacements will be met in time of the contract obligation. |
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Post by T.R. on Dec 22, 2015 15:48:05 GMT
These are to be fixed formation 6-car units I believe?
IIRC the loading gauge is fine for the Northern City Line (378s are cleared), but there's no space for overhead lines
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Post by TA1 on Dec 22, 2015 15:51:05 GMT
These are to be fixed formation 6-car units I believe? IIRC the loading gauge is fine for the Northern City Line (378s are cleared), but there's no space for overhead lines One of the folk laws of the NCL is that a 378 or a number of them have tested down their but their is no real evidence to suggest this; as of late the only foreign train to traverse the NCL is an ED. |
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Post by snoggle on Dec 22, 2015 19:43:51 GMT
These are to be fixed formation 6-car units I believe? IIRC the loading gauge is fine for the Northern City Line (378s are cleared), but there's no space for overhead lines One of the folk laws of the NCL is that a 378 or a number of them have tested down their but their is no real evidence to suggest this; as of late the only foreign train to traverse the NCL is an ED. It may be the case that someone has looked at tunnel dimensions and profiles and just done a "on paper" comparison against the 378's profile measurements. I'm sure, as you say, that no actual 378 has been down there to test whether it will get stuck or not.  Can't see LOROL being keen on one of their trains being scraped and scratched.  |
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Post by vjaska on Dec 22, 2015 20:49:56 GMT
What a smashing looking train - the front reminds me of an engine from Thomas The Tank lol.
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Post by Red Dragon on Dec 23, 2015 11:30:31 GMT
These are to be fixed formation 6-car units I believe? IIRC the loading gauge is fine for the Northern City Line (378s are cleared), but there's no space for overhead lines One of the folk laws of the NCL is that a 378 or a number of them have tested down their but their is no real evidence to suggest this; as of late the only foreign train to traverse the NCL is an ED. ED? |
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Post by TA1 on Dec 23, 2015 12:16:29 GMT
One of the folk laws of the NCL is that a 378 or a number of them have tested down their but their is no real evidence to suggest this; as of late the only foreign train to traverse the NCL is an ED. ED? A class 73 electric diesel locomotive. It was apart of a National Rail (Flying Banana) test train. |
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Can't see LOROL being keen on one of their trains being scraped and scratched. 
