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Post by vjaska on Mar 18, 2016 3:15:03 GMT
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Post by routew15 on Mar 18, 2016 7:31:29 GMT
They never wanted them gone in the first place, but unfortunately this is what can happen when TfL don't listen to what Londonders want. This "tell us you like it" approach that seems to happen with some surveys is counter-productive. |
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Post by sid on Mar 18, 2016 16:08:09 GMT
Well obviously one death is one too many but it was previously Britain's most dangerous roundabout and I don't see how this proves that anybody has got it wrong. Who wants the subways back? Motorists? I can't imagine pedestrians do as very few people used the when they were there. |
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Post by vjaska on Mar 18, 2016 16:29:20 GMT
Well obviously one death is one too many but it was previously Britain's most dangerous roundabout and I don't see how this proves that anybody has got it wrong. Who wants the subways back? Motorists? I can't imagine pedestrians do as very few people used the when they were there. Sorry but many people used the subways in the million occasions I've used or passed through Elephant & Castle. Subways are safer than people like to make out - they assume that every subway has a rapist, killer, mugger, etc. in each one which is false. But just like council estates, they think removing them removes the problem but it doesn't. And correction - it's the second death. I already proved its wrong by giving mine & observations of Kennington Lane Tesco staff who have put up with it every day - since the layout changed, traffic has backed up worse than before on all approaches and that's not helped by the traffic lights. Before, only two sides of the roundabout had traffic lights which allowed traffic to flow nicely and everyone went around the same way making it simple. |
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Post by sid on Mar 18, 2016 17:00:31 GMT
Well obviously one death is one too many but it was previously Britain's most dangerous roundabout and I don't see how this proves that anybody has got it wrong. Who wants the subways back? Motorists? I can't imagine pedestrians do as very few people used the when they were there. Sorry but many people used the subways in the million occasions I've used or passed through Elephant & Castle. Subways are safer than people like to make out - they assume that every subway has a rapist, killer, mugger, etc. in each one which is false. But just like council estates, they think removing them removes the problem but it doesn't. And correction - it's the second death. I already proved its wrong by giving mine & observations of Kennington Lane Tesco staff who have put up with it every day - since the layout changed, traffic has backed up worse than before on all approaches and that's not helped by the traffic lights. Before, only two sides of the roundabout had traffic lights which allowed traffic to flow nicely and everyone went around the same way making it simple. Subways are being removed all over the country and not only in London. I didn't say it was the first death there (I really don't know) just making the point that any death is too many but if there have been fewer deaths and injuries than under the previous arrangement surely it can't be a bad thing? |
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