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Post by ADH45258 on Apr 20, 2019 22:14:11 GMT
My sources still say garage TBC, I'll be interested to see what happens but I speculate the route will be run from RP because its on the route, it makes less sense to run the route from V if the route is no longer going to run to Hammersmith wikia says RP but sometimes that can be wrong. V isn't that far from Acton in reality. True, plus V will have space available from the 27. Even if RP has enough space as well, V could make sense as 27 drivers coule stay at the same garage for the 266. Also means the 266 & E3 could share a common fleet of ADHs.
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Post by george on Apr 20, 2019 22:20:34 GMT
wikia says RP but sometimes that can be wrong. V isn't that far from Acton in reality. True, plus V will have space available from the 27. Even if RP has enough space as well, V could make sense as 27 drivers coule stay at the same garage for the 266. Also means the 266 & E3 could share a common fleet of ADHs. Sharing a common fleet between 266 and E3 is one of the reasons I think it will go to V. Will be strange for V going down to just one LT route after always having two.
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Post by vjaska on Apr 20, 2019 23:22:35 GMT
The Putney one started out well with the 39, 93 and 424 switching bus till their own could be upgraded/replaced then the Brixton one started I think with an exemption given to something I can't remember (I think 196) and since then they have been laxer. In regards to Putney, E's & Euro V WHV's were used whilst upgraded though this didn't happen for long as I already stated. As for Brixton, the only exemptions were the 37, P5 & 690 as they used a tiny section of the corridor in one direction only. The 196 continued using non upgraded vehicles but the 45's PVL's were swapped out for Euro VI hybrids until Abellio took over roughly a month later. The 250 & P4 buses also ran for a while without being upgraded and the majority of the 64 & 198 batches are still not upgraded but regularly see service on the 250. Furthermore, 9487-9488 at BC were not upgraded when they first moved in from QB and were used on the 109.
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Post by vjaska on Apr 20, 2019 23:25:26 GMT
My sources still say garage TBC, I'll be interested to see what happens but I speculate the route will be run from RP because its on the route, it makes less sense to run the route from V if the route is no longer going to run to Hammersmith wikia says RP but sometimes that can be wrong. V isn't that far from Acton in reality. I wouldn't trust that source one bit - in regards to RATP news, the guy behind londonbusroutes.net regularly updates with solid RATP news due to having knowledge of RATP either from himself or knowing someone on the inside.
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Post by george on Apr 21, 2019 0:05:09 GMT
True, plus V will have space available from the 27. Even if RP has enough space as well, V could make sense as 27 drivers coule stay at the same garage for the 266. Also means the 266 & E3 could share a common fleet of ADHs. Sharing a common fleet between 266 and E3 is one of the reasons I think it will go to V. Will be strange for V going down to just one LT route after always having two. EDIT. forgot 211 will soon pass to V.
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Post by rif153 on Apr 21, 2019 12:25:07 GMT
Sharing a common fleet between 266 and E3 is one of the reasons I think it will go to V. Will be strange for V going down to just one LT route after always having two. EDIT. forgot 211 will soon pass to V. It’s certainly a time of huge change at V. A garage who once had all 4 routes down Hammersmith Road are soon to have just two. It feels sad V have lost so much work with the 10 and first the 27 cut and now the route leaving the company. I’m sure the wheel will keep turning and who knows V are in with a good chance for the 190 and maybe RATP will transfer other routes there
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Post by george on Apr 21, 2019 12:44:02 GMT
EDIT. forgot 211 will soon pass to V. It’s certainly a time of huge change at V. A garage who once had all 4 routes down Hammersmith Road are soon to have just two. It feels sad V have lost so much work with the 10 and first the 27 cut and now the route leaving the company. I’m sure the wheel will keep turning and who knows V are in with a good chance for the 190 and maybe RATP will transfer other routes there In a very good chance for the 190. Also I think they get the 218 so they will bounce back.
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Post by bookd on Apr 21, 2019 14:17:14 GMT
Today's news update on the LOTS website suggests that a major set of route alterations is imminent to allow for the Hammersmith closure, but does not go into more detail.
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Post by busdryver on Apr 21, 2019 16:15:20 GMT
Where have the ADEs been allocated to. The 266 I guess? The 266 is expected to get some ex 94 ADHs I think you may be mistaken! Nothing has been announced for the 94, which would indicate that (at least from the start of the contract), the existing vehicles will be used. More likely that it will be other spare vehicles from route cut backs on the 27, E3 and probably the loss of the 81 - All are youthful enough for a new contract on the 266. RP makes perfect sense, as it is on line of route, and also Tower Transit used to run the route from there.
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Post by snowman on Apr 21, 2019 16:15:37 GMT
Today's news update on the LOTS website suggests that a major set of route alterations is imminent to allow for the Hammersmith closure, but does not go into more detail. Be interesting to see how quickly these can be implemented, no idea why plan is, but 265 doing a loop around Barnes Green, church Road, Rocks Lane might cover a lot of the southern area, and allow something like 33 to be cut back to Barnes. Possibly diverting the 485 along Lonsdale Road to cover northern part of area. Could easily see the 419 discontinued Further ahead, I think the road closures for the annual cycle race are going to be a nightmare if it it routed over Chiswick Bridge and return via Putney Bridge as will effectively have no bridges open from Kew to Wandsworth
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Post by george on Apr 21, 2019 16:27:08 GMT
Today's news update on the LOTS website suggests that a major set of route alterations is imminent to allow for the Hammersmith closure, but does not go into more detail. Be interesting to see how quickly these can be implemented, no idea why plan is, but 265 doing a loop around Barnes Green, church Road, Rocks Lane might cover a lot of the southern area, and allow something like 33 to be cut back to Barnes. Possibly diverting the 485 along Lonsdale Road to cover northern part of area. Could easily see the 419 discontinued Further ahead, I think the road closures for the annual cycle race are going to be a nightmare if it it routed over Chiswick Bridge and return via Putney Bridge as will effectively have no bridges open from Kew to Wandsworth 265 doing a loop around barnes is a nice idea. Said this a few times now 33 should carry on all the way to the bridge as that's where most people want to go.
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Post by southlondonbus on Apr 21, 2019 16:28:38 GMT
I think the 209 will defo go to Putney Bridge. Could the 265 could to Wandsworth via a double run of the Wetlands centre with the 485 withdrawn as running between Wetlands and Castlenau is rather pointless and the 265 would maintain a Barnes to Wandsworth link.
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Post by george on Apr 21, 2019 16:34:42 GMT
I think the 209 will defo go to Putney Bridge. Could the 265 could to Wandsworth via a double run of the Wetlands centre with the 485 withdrawn as running between Wetlands and Castlenau is rather pointless and the 265 would maintain a Barnes to Wandsworth link. 209 would work better to through the wetlands centre IMO, as it's already quite a short route. I agree there is very little chance of the 485 staying.
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Post by southlondonbus on Apr 21, 2019 17:06:43 GMT
Even some DD conversions could happen as eventually when the Bridge gets sorted they could cross.
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Post by vjaska on Apr 21, 2019 17:44:07 GMT
Even some DD conversions could happen as eventually when the Bridge gets sorted they could cross. If the Bridge ever gets sorted you mean?
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