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Post by overgroundcommuter on Nov 15, 2013 21:47:09 GMT
The 109 runs every 10 minutes on a Sunday which is completely ridiculous. I can't see a reason why Sundays are treated differently to Saturdays on that route. Buses are getting busier on pretty much all routes on Sunday IMO. Indeed and routes with 20 or 30 minute frequencies on Sundays are looking archaic during Sunday shopping hours. Riding a 197 or P13 on a Sunday is the worst day for both routes.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Nov 14, 2013 18:41:46 GMT
I can see TfL using the excuse that most passengers prefer to use the Bakerloo line from Paddington to Oxford Circus, however the proposal won't cut on the amount of routes using Oxford Street and offers no bus alternative.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Nov 14, 2013 18:08:43 GMT
I used to work near Paddington Basin and one of our guys was happy that he could commute from Streatham straight in without changing buses or using rail, so I'd keep it.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Nov 14, 2013 18:04:30 GMT
Nothing too exciting today.
197 Home > Peckham The Aylesham Centre 197 Peckham Bus Station > Home.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Nov 14, 2013 17:08:59 GMT
There's always one grumpy driver and I managed to get on their bus this afternoon on the 197. A passenger rang the bell 20 times before the driver opened the rear doors and drove past a bus stop with a passenger with a buggy despite being room for two in the wheelchair area.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Nov 14, 2013 0:20:23 GMT
My bus journeys have only been short hop since Tuesday, so will use Mondays which were slightly more interesting.
185 Home > Forest Hill Southern to London Bridge Southeastern to Charing Cross 139 Charing Cross > Selfridges 73 Selfridges > Tottenham Court Road 24 TCR > Trafalgar Square Southeastern from London Charing Cross to London Bridge Southern to Forest Hill (Class 378/6) 176 Forest Hill > Home
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Nov 13, 2013 18:55:41 GMT
You wouldn't double deck the 450, you'd create a new route that doesn't serve the small back roads and loop of the 450. Antman- you wouldn't route it via the 468 between Croydon and Upper Norwood as you'd miss Thornton Heath where most people board and alight. You'd route it via the 250 to Green Lane where it would branch off via Norbury Hill to Norwood, then onwards via the 417. That's the most direct and useful routing that I can think of, plus it would serve Norbury Hill which is currently not served by buses. I really don't see a need for this route - the 450 could be enhanced just by removing the traffic islands on Queens Road and enforcing parking restrictions on Windmill Road allowing longer buses to be used - heck, even deckers could be used as Bensham Lane to Crystal Palace Parade would be fine for deckers. On another note, the 450 doesn't really need to go to Lower Sydenham - majority of passengers from both ends get off at Palace so the 450 should either be cut back to Palace or follow my idea of extending to Loughborough Junction via College Road, Dulwich Wood Park, South Croxted Road, Park Hall Road, Rosendale Road, Norwood Road, Herne Hill & Milkwood Road. With the exception of Herne Hill, it runs along congested free roads and opens up lots of new links & also runs along sections of three roads that is currently not served by buses. An extended 315 from West Norwood would take over the Kingswood Drive/College Road/Fountain Driver section. Those Kingswood Estate residents would kick up a fuss if they lost their link to Lower Sydenham Sainsburys. It also relives the 202 between Bell Green and Sydenham Cobbs Corner.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Nov 12, 2013 17:47:42 GMT
The double deckers may be too large for the back streets round the Kingswood Estate.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Nov 9, 2013 17:58:45 GMT
The bridge work and football traffic has affected the 197 with many turning round in Penge. Looking at Countdown, there are 4 bunched up going to Peckham!
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Nov 7, 2013 20:27:24 GMT
The other option allowed is to use London Overground between Sydenham and West Croydon, although I suspect they'll be plenty of PAYG refunds with those using Oyster or ill informed gateline staff at the two stations of those who have bus passes.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Nov 7, 2013 16:50:41 GMT
It's up to you but if you opt not to then I'll have to conclude that you don't know what you're talking about. What advantage is there for TfL to risk its reputation by providing "bad" data that it knows will be published? One anecdotal observation does not prove any sort of rule. Surely you can see that? Well to pick a couple of other routes, the 172 is very rarely busy outside peak hours and as for the 176 it can be busy at the Central London end, but not excessively so from what I've seen, but south of Dulwich/Forest Hill (where it duplicates the 197) loadings are generally very light. That depends, evening peaks normally see the 176 go light after Forest Hill, while I've boarded a busy 176 towards TCR at Sydenham Cobbs Corner. The Sydenham to Penge section is always quiet. The trunk journeys appear to be between Central London and East Dulwich, Dulwich and Forest Hill. The latter is surprising considering the improved frequency of trains from Forest Hill and Sydenham when the ELL was extended in 2010.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Nov 4, 2013 1:51:23 GMT
I've debated the Wimbledon loop issue elsewhere and although I tried to reason that they'd have a much improved reliable service by terminating at Blackfriars with cross platform transfer into the TL core, the issue as Snoggle mentions is they simply wanted a through service. However, it's also meant the proposed 4tph on the Sevenoaks stopper service has been axed with the DfT keeping the 2tph as the minimum to the new TSGN franchisee whoever wins that franchise. Incidentally, Southeastern will lose management of some stations on the Catford loop, Denmark Hill, Nunhead, Crofton Park, Catford, Bellingham and Ravensbourne will transfer to the TSGN franchisee. Catford Loop retains its awful service then, sigh. You'll get nice new Class 700 units (when they're eventually built, which may not be to time!) that'll replace the 319s currently used and a lick of paint/rebranding at the local stations, but that's it. 4tph would have been possible if the proposed Victoria to Bellingham service was given the go-ahead, but TfL didn't have the resources for it and the ELL extension to Clapham Junction.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Nov 4, 2013 0:14:22 GMT
I've debated the Wimbledon loop issue elsewhere and although I tried to reason that they'd have a much improved reliable service by terminating at Blackfriars with cross platform transfer into the TL core, the issue as Snoggle mentions is they simply wanted a through service.
However, it's also meant the proposed 4tph on the Sevenoaks stopper service has been axed with the DfT keeping the 2tph as the minimum to the new TSGN franchisee whoever wins that franchise.
Incidentally, Southeastern will lose management of some stations on the Catford loop, Denmark Hill, Nunhead, Crofton Park, Catford, Bellingham and Ravensbourne will transfer to the TSGN franchisee.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Nov 2, 2013 1:11:05 GMT
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Nov 1, 2013 20:46:14 GMT
A standard 4 tph on each of the Bexleyheath / Sidcup / woolwich lines from Dartford / Gravesend / Gillingham , with the loop services increasing these services to 6-8 tph and extra 2 tph starting from Sidcup and Plumstead. If you mean the evening services, I agree that they should be at least a minimum of 4tph on the three Dartford branches. The Greenwich and Bexleyheath lines already have 6tph serving all stations with 8tph from the Gillingham service calling at Abbey Wood, Woolwich Arsenal, Charlton, Blackheath and Lewisham. The Sidcup line is the only one with a daytime service of 4tph. I'd suggest the extra 2tph for the Greenwich, Sidcup and Hayes lines during evenings and Sundays can be achieved by keeping the existing Cannon Street loop, while the Bexleyheath line would have an extension of the Victoria service, this would also benefit those stations between Peckham Rye and Victoria which lost their direct late service after the SLL was transferred to London Overground.
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