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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 13, 2024 20:05:21 GMT
For fans of late-90s/early 00s Australian pop music, there's a Savage Gardens on the 366/474 in Beckton The only shortcomings about those routes is that they won't take you To the Moon and Back
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 13, 2024 19:58:27 GMT
Not sure if this should go into "Buses in the News" or the Tender folder, or even in "Off-Route", so please move if needed Sadiq Kahn has tweeted that if he is re-elected as Mayor he will work establish a London Bus Company, bringing services into Public Ownership Elaborate please - I am lost, what does public ownership mean in this case? All TFL Buses are run by private companies tho e.g Stagecoach. It is also odd that they refer to "bringing services into public ownership". The services have been in public ownership for decades. It is just the operation that moved progressively into assorted private hands from 1985 to 1994.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 13, 2024 19:54:22 GMT
TfL had better take care in case RATP bid, lest they pull out soon after taking up the tender lol!
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 13, 2024 19:53:13 GMT
Hi folks So something really came to my head about some particular years and how major changes occurred in that year. So let's start with 1992, I think that year was a big change involving a lot of Central London buses where a lot of diversions and splits occurred. 1993 was the Newham changes, 1994 was when the privatisation occurred. 1999 now this one and 2003 (I'll come to that in a bit) was a very big one. It involved the Jubilee line extension, the DLR extension. The low floor revolution was really taking it's foothold from this point 2000 the tramlink and Croydon bus changes 2003 was the year the congestion charge was introduced along with some new routes, 30th August 2003 being a famous date for a lot of bus changes on that day. Some in South London, others in East London. 2005 being the last year that step entrance buses were allowed to roam the streets of London 2010 being the last year that the overlapping service was the norm 2011 being the year that the roundels came back onto the London buses and bendy buses being removed from the London streets 2014 being the year of the bus and the time being displayed on the buses. 2019 the Central London bus changes again!! That's all I can think of from the top of my head If there's anymore please feel free to add some. 1993 was huge for Newham! New routes like the 300,308, 325 and 330 and the end of routes like the 162. Other big changes were the splitting of the 173 into two routes with the new 473. The 108 was also cut back from Wanstead the same time. 2003 was also the start of converting Routemster routes to OPO. Only those long-term crew routes. A few Routemaster routes had gone opo in the 1970s to enable RM/RMLs to replace RTs. RM withdrawals had commenced in 1982 but stalled in 1994, apart from route 139 in 1998, until 2003-05 when remaining RM/RMLs were phased out, apart from the tourist route which met an intended demise in 2019.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 13, 2024 19:50:19 GMT
Hi folks So something really came to my head about some particular years and how major changes occurred in that year. So let's start with 1992, I think that year was a big change involving a lot of Central London buses where a lot of diversions and splits occurred. 1993 was the Newham changes, 1994 was when the privatisation occurred. 1999 now this one and 2003 (I'll come to that in a bit) was a very big one. It involved the Jubilee line extension, the DLR extension. The low floor revolution was really taking it's foothold from this point 2000 the tramlink and Croydon bus changes 2003 was the year the congestion charge was introduced along with some new routes, 30th August 2003 being a famous date for a lot of bus changes on that day. Some in South London, others in East London. 2005 being the last year that step entrance buses were allowed to roam the streets of London 2010 being the last year that the overlapping service was the norm 2011 being the year that the roundels came back onto the London buses and bendy buses being removed from the London streets 2014 being the year of the bus and the time being displayed on the buses. 2019 the Central London bus changes again!! That's all I can think of from the top of my head If there's anymore please feel free to add some. These were indeed big events for London buses. The others in the 21st century have been electric buses first scheduled in 2016 for single-decks (routes 507/521) and 2019 for double-decks (routes 43/134).
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 13, 2024 19:36:51 GMT
Any reason why the route 194 is so indirect from Penge to west Croydon? I was on the route the other day to get to Croydon and it took a good hour to get from Penge to Croydon. However the 75 and 197 only take around 20 min to get to Croydon from Penge. It's how the 194 has always been and it's remained largely unchanged over the years. I remember being fascinated by the routeing of route 194 as long ago as 1977 when Capital Radio was on 194m on Medium Wave
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 13, 2024 19:33:33 GMT
Don’t you just hate it when the driver is making a diversion announcement, but you can’t hear it because of foreigners shouting into their mobile phones! On my overnight coach from Manchester to London I had a foreign passenger ignore the driver request and spend most of the time to Birmingham chatting on his phone Behaviour like this has reduced me from an avid Remainer to a mild Remainer but never mind. My visit to London was not for a bus trip as such but to clear more stuff from my brother's flat. A round trip from his flat to a charity shop and coffee afterwards took me on routes 31, 70 & 228. What struck me, completely unrelated to this, was Pick of the Pops starting with 1978. This is not even because that was my first Easter Monday out on London buses. 1978 had been on Pick on the Pops on February 10th, my Saturday out on the buses then but also Steve Wright's final Pick of the Pops before the shock news that he died just a few days later.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 6, 2024 12:19:34 GMT
Stagecoach had a stake in then route 712 (Eastbourne to Brighton) until they sold their Lewes operation to GA Brighton & Hove. It might have been a nice nod to the past to number it 712, but I do see the logic of having route 700 linking with route 701 in Brighton.
With Stagecoach subsequently purchasing Eastbourne Buses, they do again have a suitable depot for such a link. This means they will no longer have this "gap" along the south coast.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 6, 2024 12:07:24 GMT
The Empire were supposed to take over Abellio and London Sovereign weren't they? When's that happening?? 31st April I believe Only 25 days to go then
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 6, 2024 12:05:29 GMT
The Empire were supposed to take over Abellio and London Sovereign weren't they? When's that happening?? There was a rumour Go Ahead were interested in London Sovereign, nothing has come of it so far. Maybe GA will take over London Sovereign, possibly with RP being north west London, and Stagecoach the rest of RATP London. I certainly like the idea of the Harrow & Wembley being all Metroline and GA
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 6, 2024 12:03:47 GMT
Can't be. They were gonna be bust within 6 months of being taken over by the Abellio UK management team and their backers. It must be true, someone on here said it. The Empire were supposed to take over Abellio and London Sovereign weren't they? When's that happening?? Alas they have left it too late for April 1st
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 6, 2024 5:54:06 GMT
If Penny Mordaunt attempted such a thing she'd probably get away with it
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 6, 2024 5:48:11 GMT
In other words this BRT system will proceed anyway, barring unforeseen glitches or .... cough .... broken pledges .... cough.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 6, 2024 5:42:48 GMT
Thank you for this heads-up. I could find it intriguing to postpone my visit to Oxford so that I can compare Oxford & Reading electric buses on the same visit. It might be a long wait - Reading’s BE buses are not expected until late 2025! Given that I rotate many places in few trips, now averaging 18 days a year (but fewer in the UK in 2024 as my main holiday is in Ireland), this is not as long as it sounds.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 6, 2024 5:33:25 GMT
Will the remaining 3 MHVs at Q eventually transfer onto 89/N89, alongside 2 from NX and the remaining from SW? I didn’t realise so many MHVs had left Q. I knew some where being used on the 1 after its extension. There are currently 4 on the route today. Indeed, my bus on route 1 in February was an MHV.
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