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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jul 7, 2018 6:44:03 GMT
Thank you for your info about the service on route K1 being increased. It's a pity that early mini-E200s released earlier this year were not used to replace MPDs here. At this rate route K1 could see the final Darts on TfL service anywhere. As an aside, I think Scania OmniDekkas are another endangered type. It seems the only ones left in London are on route 292 until December. OmniDekkas are so old that even those cascaded within GA Metrobus from London to Crawley are mostly if not entirely withdrawn now. The 405 still has 5 Omnidekka's and I don't think there are currently plans of replacing them Ah ok. I thought route 405 had OmniCities but never mind.
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Post by galwhv69 on Jul 7, 2018 6:50:53 GMT
The 405 still has 5 Omnidekka's and I don't think there are currently plans of replacing them Ah ok. I thought route 405 had OmniCities but never mind. It has both 948-952 are Omnidekkas 955-957 are Omnicities 947 was recently withdrawn due to a mechanical problem
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Post by snowman on Jul 7, 2018 8:21:57 GMT
The 214 & 274 swapped allocations a while back so the 274 is allocated DLD's & the 214 DE's. This is presumably done like the time the 410 & 450 switched allocations so the older buses could be removed first. The 461 has it's own non TfL buses so the K1's MPD's plus the other MPD at TF have nothing to do with the 461 & the reason why the K1 doesn't have enough Enviro 200's is because it has had two PVR increases during it's contract - firstly a +1 increase which saw a V reg MPD added and then a +2 increase which saw two ex Travel London MPD's added with the V reg MPD being replaced by another ex Travel London example at some point. Thank you for your info about the service on route K1 being increased. It's a pity that early mini-E200s released earlier this year were not used to replace MPDs here. At this rate route K1 could see the final Darts on TfL service anywhere. As an aside, I think Scania OmniDekkas are another endangered type. It seems the only ones left in London are on route 292 until December. OmniDekkas are so old that even those cascaded within GA Metrobus from London to Crawley are mostly if not entirely withdrawn now. As you have mentioned Abellio and K1, a small number of the Abellio Caetano Nimbus have clung to life this week, but with the K3 fleet replacing them, they might not last very long. Are these the last Caetano buses in service in London ? Regarding the London Sovereign Scania omnidekkas, there is a rumour some are sold (possibly a school contract somewhere) so are leaving just after school holiday starts. No idea if true, or how many. But I guess some of the omnicities spare after the refurb cover could be used until December. Presumably FW has spares now it has just gained some more VHs
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Post by 725DYE on Jul 7, 2018 20:46:19 GMT
Ah ok. I thought route 405 had OmniCities but never mind. It has both 948-952 are Omnidekkas 955-957 are Omnicities 947 was recently withdrawn due to a mechanical problem 957 is actually part of the 293 school bus allocation hence why it was refurbished in 2013 and sports the late Metrobus "blue moon" moquette. However, it spends the vast majority of its time serving the 405
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jul 7, 2018 20:48:06 GMT
Thank you for your info about the service on route K1 being increased. It's a pity that early mini-E200s released earlier this year were not used to replace MPDs here. At this rate route K1 could see the final Darts on TfL service anywhere. As an aside, I think Scania OmniDekkas are another endangered type. It seems the only ones left in London are on route 292 until December. OmniDekkas are so old that even those cascaded within GA Metrobus from London to Crawley are mostly if not entirely withdrawn now. As you have mentioned Abellio and K1, a small number of the Abellio Caetano Nimbus have clung to life this week, but with the K3 fleet replacing them, they might not last very long. Are these the last Caetano buses in service in London ? Regarding the London Sovereign Scania omnidekkas, there is a rumour some are sold (possibly a school contract somewhere) so are leaving just after school holiday starts. No idea if true, or how many. But I guess some of the omnicities spare after the refurb cover could be used until December. Presumably FW has spares now it has just gained some more VHs I think these are indeed the last Caetanos in London service. First also had some that sold on to Metroline and Tower Transit, but these are all withdrawn now.
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Post by ADH45258 on Jul 8, 2018 6:31:23 GMT
Thank you for your info about the service on route K1 being increased. It's a pity that early mini-E200s released earlier this year were not used to replace MPDs here. At this rate route K1 could see the final Darts on TfL service anywhere. As an aside, I think Scania OmniDekkas are another endangered type. It seems the only ones left in London are on route 292 until December. OmniDekkas are so old that even those cascaded within GA Metrobus from London to Crawley are mostly if not entirely withdrawn now. As you have mentioned Abellio and K1, a small number of the Abellio Caetano Nimbus have clung to life this week, but with the K3 fleet replacing them, they might not last very long. Are these the last Caetano buses in service in London ? Regarding the London Sovereign Scania omnidekkas, there is a rumour some are sold (possibly a school contract somewhere) so are leaving just after school holiday starts. No idea if true, or how many. But I guess some of the omnicities spare after the refurb cover could be used until December. Presumably FW has spares now it has just gained some more VHs RATP could also send additional VHs (16reg from S, due to the 94's PVR cut) to FW for the 65 to release further SPs. Though the fact that one SLE has been reblinded for the 139/142/258/H14 suggests they may be staying longer.
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Post by VWH1414 on Jul 8, 2018 8:41:33 GMT
As you have mentioned Abellio and K1, a small number of the Abellio Caetano Nimbus have clung to life this week, but with the K3 fleet replacing them, they might not last very long. Are these the last Caetano buses in service in London ? Regarding the London Sovereign Scania omnidekkas, there is a rumour some are sold (possibly a school contract somewhere) so are leaving just after school holiday starts. No idea if true, or how many. But I guess some of the omnicities spare after the refurb cover could be used until December. Presumably FW has spares now it has just gained some more VHs RATP could also send additional VHs (16reg from S, due to the 94's PVR cut) to FW for the 65 to release further SPs. Though the fact that one SLE has been reblinded for the 139/142/258/H14 suggests they may be staying longer. snowman said some, so may not necessarily mean all, SLE40629/40631 have been missing since mid June so may well be sold already, but others such as SLE40626 (the re-blinded one) may stay a bit longer, and it may not have got brand new blinds but rather inserts maybe? but either way only the front blind has the extra routes on it.
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Post by snowman on Nov 12, 2018 20:09:02 GMT
With Metroline withdrawing their DLDs, the number of Pointer Darts in London has gone down further. At one time there were hundreds in London, None left in service with Arriva, Stagecoach or Tower Transit. RATP now has the most.
The remaining DPS with RATP are mainly on 72, LVF shows 6 others in use today : 2 on 283, 2 on 419, 2 on H22 However with a number of DLEs entering service their days with RATP could be all over by December
Apart from RATP there are : 2 with GAL (LDP class) on B11 + B16 (but B11 has changes in Jan) 3 with Abellio as part of K1 fleet (80xx numbers)
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Post by vjaska on Nov 12, 2018 21:32:14 GMT
With Metroline withdrawing their DLDs, the number of Pointer Darts in London has gone down further. At one time there were hundreds in London, None left in service with Arriva, Stagecoach or Tower Transit. RATP now has the most. The remaining DPS with RATP are mainly on 72, LVF shows 6 others in use today : 2 on 283, 2 on 419, 2 on H22 However with a number of DLEs entering service their days with RATP could be all over by December Apart from RATP there are : 2 with GAL (LDP class) on B11 + B16 (but B11 has changes in Jan) 3 with Abellio as part of K1 fleet (80xx numbers) Arriva has one which is electric PDL120 whilst the two at BX will remain until the B11’s Crossrail related cutback is implemented. Abellio also have 84* series Pointer Darts still running at TF
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Post by M1199 on Nov 12, 2018 22:40:34 GMT
With Metroline withdrawing their DLDs, the number of Pointer Darts in London has gone down further. At one time there were hundreds in London, None left in service with Arriva, Stagecoach or Tower Transit. RATP now has the most. The remaining DPS with RATP are mainly on 72, LVF shows 6 others in use today : 2 on 283, 2 on 419, 2 on H22 However with a number of DLEs entering service their days with RATP could be all over by December Apart from RATP there are : 2 with GAL (LDP class) on B11 + B16 (but B11 has changes in Jan) 3 with Abellio as part of K1 fleet (80xx numbers) Arriva has one which is electric PDL120 whilst the two at BX will remain until the B11’s Crossrail related cutback is implemented. Abellio also have 84* series Pointer Darts still running at TF When you think of all the Pointer Darts that have graced the streets of London over the last 25+ years, seems strange to have them placed on an 'endangered species' list! Incidentally, are any of the Marshall Darts still clinging on for life?
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Post by N230UD on Nov 12, 2018 22:58:00 GMT
Arriva has one which is electric PDL120 whilst the two at BX will remain until the B11’s Crossrail related cutback is implemented. Abellio also have 84* series Pointer Darts still running at TF When you think of all the Pointer Darts that have graced the streets of London over the last 25+ years, seems strange to have them placed on an 'endangered species' list! Incidentally, are any of the Marshall Darts still clinging on for life? I believe the only Marshall Dart remaining is Go-Ahead's DMN1 (a former First vehicle). It is allocated to the infrequent W10 but makes appearances on the busy 192. In fact, according to LVF, it worked today on the 192. I am very surprised the Marshalls lasted so long on the 193 in Romford, and that DMN1 still remains in service, considering they are now very rare even outside of London.
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Post by vjaska on Nov 12, 2018 23:37:40 GMT
Arriva has one which is electric PDL120 whilst the two at BX will remain until the B11’s Crossrail related cutback is implemented. Abellio also have 84* series Pointer Darts still running at TF When you think of all the Pointer Darts that have graced the streets of London over the last 25+ years, seems strange to have them placed on an 'endangered species' list! Incidentally, are any of the Marshall Darts still clinging on for life? Indeed, it's a crying shame especially when it's successor is absolutely awful to ride on IMO. Just two are surviving - the excellent DMN1 which NP have looked after and the not so excellent DMN17 which somehow gained a reprieve and joined DMN1 at NP. Only other Darts on other bodies left are Caetanos with Abellio including just one long version (8750) & two ex Metrobus Esteems (231 & 232) at RR which are confined to school workings
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Post by snowman on Nov 13, 2018 5:16:19 GMT
With Metroline withdrawing their DLDs, the number of Pointer Darts in London has gone down further. At one time there were hundreds in London, None left in service with Arriva, Stagecoach or Tower Transit. RATP now has the most. The remaining DPS with RATP are mainly on 72, LVF shows 6 others in use today : 2 on 283, 2 on 419, 2 on H22 However with a number of DLEs entering service their days with RATP could be all over by December Apart from RATP there are : 2 with GAL (LDP class) on B11 + B16 (but B11 has changes in Jan) 3 with Abellio as part of K1 fleet (80xx numbers) Arriva has one which is electric PDL120 whilst the two at BX will remain until the B11’s Crossrail related cutback is implemented. Abellio also have 84* series Pointer Darts still running at TF Sorry forgot the 4 Abellio 844x and 845x ones (I’m guessing some Ex K3 buses still having refurb as new H25 contract starts Saturday) Arriva’s PDL120 hasn’t been used for 3-4 weeks which is why I didn’t include as active anymore My records show B11 contract extended to 8 years until Jan19, when PVR falls by 2, has this cut been delayed ?
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Post by M1199 on Nov 13, 2018 8:57:14 GMT
When you think of all the Pointer Darts that have graced the streets of London over the last 25+ years, seems strange to have them placed on an 'endangered species' list! Incidentally, are any of the Marshall Darts still clinging on for life? Indeed, it's a crying shame especially when it's successor is absolutely awful to ride on IMO. Just two are surviving - the excellent DMN1 which NP have looked after and the not so excellent DMN17 which somehow gained a reprieve and joined DMN1 at NP. Only other Darts on other bodies left are Caetanos with Abellio including just one long version (8750) & two ex Metrobus Esteems (231 & 232) at RR which are confined to school workings I don't actually mind the 'Classic' e200's nowadays, I always aim for the seat next to the emergency exit, plenty of leg room there! Much better than the WTA e200's and the stop/start Voith e200 MMC's which end up giving me a headache due to the sheer amount of jerks and jolts they give off on a 15-20min ride! My last Marshall Dart was DML41336, which ironically was my favorite Marshall Dart, on Slough's 58 shortly before it was withdrawn for not being fully DDA compliant. Not sure I wanna ruin that memory with one last ride on a euro_3 DMS, although it is tempting! Never been too fond of the Abellio Caetano Nimbus' either, Always thought the First/Metroline Nimbus' were far superior. Plus I prefered the look of the slightly modified front wings that First specified over the standard offering Caetano supplied. They're another batch that I feel had a good run in London but left too early!
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Post by 15002 on Nov 13, 2018 9:00:03 GMT
Indeed, it's a crying shame especially when it's successor is absolutely awful to ride on IMO. Just two are surviving - the excellent DMN1 which NP have looked after and the not so excellent DMN17 which somehow gained a reprieve and joined DMN1 at NP. Only other Darts on other bodies left are Caetanos with Abellio including just one long version (8750) & two ex Metrobus Esteems (231 & 232) at RR which are confined to school workings I don't actually mind the 'Classic' e200's nowadays, I always aim for the seat next to the emergency exit, plenty of leg room there! Much better than the WTA e200's and the stop/start Voith e200 MMC's which end up giving me a headache due to the sheer amount of jerks and jolts they give off on a 15-20min ride! My last Marshall Dart was DML41336, which ironically was my favorite Marshall Dart, on Slough's 58 shortly before it was withdrawn for not being fully DDA compliant. Not sure I wanna ruin that memory with one last ride on a euro_3 DMS, although it is tempting! Never been too fond of the Abellio Caetano Nimbus' either, Always thought the First/Metroline Nimbus' were far superior. Plus I prefered the look of the slightly modified front wings that First specified over the standard offering Caetano supplied. They're another batch that I feel had a good run in London but left too early! I remember them always appearing on the 165 but never getting a chance to ride on the Nimbus’
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