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Post by bertrell on Dec 7, 2020 17:13:03 GMT
I think there's a fair chance that roads would have been lowered by now if it was possible. It's not just buses that are affected. My suggestion, was only based on a road I've used thousands of times. Obviously where roads have not been lowered there will be justifiable reasons i.e. sewers, u/g rivers etc. I really would like to know why our favourite bridge on the SCR, has never been considered, I wonder what's under the road there? SCR?
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Post by Busboy105 on Dec 7, 2020 17:18:01 GMT
My suggestion, was only based on a road I've used thousands of times. Obviously where roads have not been lowered there will be justifiable reasons i.e. sewers, u/g rivers etc. I really would like to know why our favourite bridge on the SCR, has never been considered, I wonder what's under the road there? SCR? South Circular Road
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Post by bertrell on Dec 7, 2020 17:40:42 GMT
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Post by Busboy105 on Dec 7, 2020 17:46:48 GMT
I think John meant all of it.
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Post by John tuthill on Dec 7, 2020 18:24:34 GMT
My suggestion, was only based on a road I've used thousands of times. Obviously where roads have not been lowered there will be justifiable reasons i.e. sewers, u/g rivers etc. I really would like to know why our favourite bridge on the SCR, has never been considered, I wonder what's under the road there? SCR? South Circular Road
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Post by John tuthill on Dec 7, 2020 18:25:14 GMT
I think John meant all of it. Thats the one
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Post by bertrell on Dec 8, 2020 5:59:38 GMT
I think John meant all of it. Thats the one River Effra runs under it, plus theirs old sewers.
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Post by John tuthill on Dec 8, 2020 10:08:24 GMT
Thats the one River Effra runs under it, plus theirs old sewers. Thanks for that! It did cross my mind, I thought of the Ravensbourne, but thats further east. Found this on the web Attachment Deleted
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Post by vjaska on Dec 8, 2020 10:48:10 GMT
River Effra runs under it, plus theirs old sewers. Thanks for that! It did cross my mind, I thought of the Ravensbourne, but thats further east. Found this on the web View AttachmentAccording to that map, the River Effra doesn't run under Thurlow Park Road so not sure that's actually the issue
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Post by John tuthill on Dec 8, 2020 12:53:28 GMT
Thanks for that! It did cross my mind, I thought of the Ravensbourne, but thats further east. Found this on the web View AttachmentAccording to that map, the River Effra doesn't run under Thurlow Park Road so not sure that's actually the issue Maybe it's just the logistics. Closing the railway and the road would be a nightmare. I'd build a concrete beam across the road 20m or so either side of the bridge and watch it on YouTube
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Post by bertrell on Dec 8, 2020 12:56:12 GMT
According to that map, the River Effra doesn't run under Thurlow Park Road so not sure that's actually the issue Maybe it's just the logistics. Closing the railway and the road would be a nightmare. I'd build a concrete beam across the road 20m or so either side of the bridge and watch it on YouTube I shall be popping to Waterstones and Foyles in Central london later so i shall look for some books on London rivers and old sewers.
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Post by John tuthill on Dec 8, 2020 13:12:47 GMT
Maybe it's just the logistics. Closing the railway and the road would be a nightmare. I'd build a concrete beam across the road 20m or so either side of the bridge and watch it on YouTube I shall be popping to Waterstones and Foyles in Central london later so i shall look for some books on London rivers and old sewers. Re the 'Effra.' there are a couple on Amazon Attachment Deleted
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Post by martynl on Dec 16, 2020 21:40:15 GMT
Is there any reason why the 138 can't be decked? After all, RT's ran the route for a few decades until the late 60's and it was again decked with Titans in the mid 80's. It does seem a bit strange considering TB run deckers on the 638 albeit not all the way to Chestnut Avenue in Coney Hall I believe. But often buses are full by the time they reach Bromley South only for a 638 to arrive a few minutes later practically empty!
MB do throw the odd decker on the 126 and R9 so why not the 138?
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Post by greenboy on Dec 16, 2020 21:50:34 GMT
Is there any reason why the 138 can't be decked? After all, RT's ran the route for a few decades until the late 60's and it was again decked with Titans in the mid 80's. It does seem a bit strange considering TB run deckers on the 638 albeit not all the way to Chestnut Avenue in Coney Hall I believe. But often buses are full by the time they reach Bromley South only for a 638 to arrive a few minutes later practically empty! MB do throw the odd decker on the 126 and R9 so why not the 138? The Coney Hall loop is unsuitable for double deckers.
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Post by martynl on Dec 16, 2020 23:00:21 GMT
Is there any reason why the 138 can't be decked? After all, RT's ran the route for a few decades until the late 60's and it was again decked with Titans in the mid 80's. It does seem a bit strange considering TB run deckers on the 638 albeit not all the way to Chestnut Avenue in Coney Hall I believe. But often buses are full by the time they reach Bromley South only for a 638 to arrive a few minutes later practically empty! MB do throw the odd decker on the 126 and R9 so why not the 138? The Coney Hall loop is unsuitable for double deckers. Thanks for your answer, I too thought the roads are a bit tight around Coney Hall. However, deckers do squeeze down some fairly narrow roads, the 194 on Shirley Way for example. Is it a situation that there are overhanging trees as is the case with deckers never being considered on the 146 to Downe? Or perhaps more parked cars than there were 35 years ago when Titans ran the route? Back to the 138, perhaps deckers could be considered if short trips to, say, Hayes Station were added to the timetable.
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